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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: goral200

CNN video does not quite confirm these big four square pieces,.. also they think, China satellite be rather more clear images it should have,.. Plus one article also said,. this plane's material was having high buoyancy and hence must be seen floating,.</font>[/P]
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Even if it has high buoyancy, the pieces in question are too large to be wreckage from an air plane crash. The 2 senior pilots on CNN looked like they knew what they were talking about and it also makes sense.
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: dazzelll

No one is talking about the phone, dont know how they were ringing if they were rining if the plane is under water.



There are trying to fool everyone, they are saying that if a phone rings, it will connect to the network first and then the user, so if people hear a few rings, it doesn't mean the phone is on.

That's bullshit, if a phone is off or not in service, IT DOES NOT RING. It will go straight to voicemail or a voice recording will come up saying phone is not in service or unavailable. I'm flabbergasted that the news would even include something like that in an article. I think the world knows how phones work, otherwise the Malaysia's are not stupid people to ring the phones on national television and have 19 families sign a statement saying the phones are ringing.
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: dazzelll

No one is talking about the phone, dont know how they were ringing if they were rining if the plane is under water.



CNN Was talking about that.. CNN tech expert was saying that maybe their phone calls were searching for network to connect that is why it kept ringing.. They were actually looking for the network to connect..it actually sounds right.. Because now days with smart phones the battery life of phones barely last a day.. So even if they are in the ground by some miracles.. Their phones will be death..
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Posted: 11 years ago
If the Chinese have released the satellite images, one can safely assume that it has to do something with MH370. They will never risk embrassment at the world stage by giving out conflicting statements or releasing images or pictures unless they are pretty sure that it is relevant to the search of the missing aircraft.
The low resolution image might be just a ploy to hide the true capabilities of their Satellites...I for one cannot believe that the country which is preparing for a soft landing on Moon in a few years, doesn't possess a satellite capable of higher resoultion images.
Regarding why they did not disclose the images on 9th March, when it was taken...I presume that a Satellite takes thousands of images and they have to be scanned manually to see what one is looking for. They certainly would have the means to have a much more detailed look before releasing these low res photos.
A lot of experts are suggesting a scenario of hijacking and trying to force the pilots to change route. Which would explain why the Transponder was switched off (can only be done manually...else it keeps working even if the entire plane is on fire and every electrical equipment on the plane is jammed.) and why the pilots did not communicated at all with the Ground Control.
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Posted: 11 years ago
Here is the theory by telecom experts on Cnn on why some of the phones were ringing;
'Phantom call' theory dismissed by experts
CNN) -- The mystery of Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 appeared to deepen as reports emerged that passengers' cell phones continued to ring long after the flight went missing Saturday.

After the torment of not knowing what has happened to their loved ones, relatives of MH370 passengers had resorted to calling their phones, and were greeted with ringtones.

The aircraft disappeared unexpectedly from tracking early Saturday. No distress call from the pilots was received, and search efforts to date have not yielded any conclusive results, only adding to the uncertainty surrounding the fate of the Beijing-bound flight.

Speculation quickly mounted on social media that these "phantom calls" amounted to evidence that the flight had not crashed, as has been widely assumed.

"Frustrated! ... There are reports from family members that phone calls to their missing loved ones have 'rung through,' indicating the phones aren't on the bottom of the ocean," one Facebook user surmised.

However, technology industry analyst and "E-Commerce Times" columnist, Jeff Kagan told CNN that no conclusions can be reached concerning the ringing phones.

When a cell phone rings, he told "The Situation Room," it first connects with the network and attempts to locate the end-user's phone.

"If it doesn't find the phone after a few minutes, after a few rings, then typically, it disconnects and that's what's happening," he said.

"So, they're hearing ringing and they're assuming it's connecting to their loved ones, but it's not. It's the network sending a signal to the phone letting them know it's looking for them."

Kagan told Wolf Blitzer that the technology meant he couldn't speculate on what ringing phones in this situation could mean.

"Just because you're getting ringing, just because the signs that we see on these cell phones, that's no proof that there's any -- that's just the way the networks work."

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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: poppy2009


"Just because you're getting ringing, just because the signs that we see on these cell phones, that's no proof that there's any -- that's just the way the networks work."

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Is this really true though? I've been using phones for years, and that's never the case.

If its ringing, it means the phone IS ON and in range of service. The phone will NEVER ring if the phone is off, W*F are they talking about?

Even in India its not like that, When you call a phone that is off it will say out of coverage or some other message.

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Posted: 11 years ago

KUALA LUMPUR, Malaysia (AP) " Satellite images on a Chinese government website show suspected debris from the missing Malaysia Airlines jetliner floating off the southern tip of Vietnam, near the plane's original flight path, China's Xinhua News Agency reported Wednesday.

The revelation could provide searchers with a focus that has eluded them since the plane disappeared with 239 people aboard early Saturday.

The Xinhua report said the images from around 11 a.m. on Sunday appear to show "three suspected floating objects" of varying sizes, the largest about 24 meters (79 feet) by 22 meters (72 feet).

The report includes coordinates of a location in the sea off the southern tip of Vietnam and east of Malaysia. The images originally were posted on a national defense technology website.

No other governments have confirmed the Xinhua report, which did not say when Chinese officials became aware of the images and associated them with the missing plane.

With the passage of time since the satellite images were taken, it is far from certain that whatever they show would be in the same location now.

The search for the plane, which left Kuala Lumpur for Beijing before disappearing early Saturday, has encompassed 35,800 square miles of Southeast Asia and on Wednesday expanded toward India.

Two-thirds of the passengers on the flight were Chinese, and the Chinese government has put increasing pressure on Malaysian officials to solve the mystery of the plane's disappearance.

Also, Wednesday, it was revealed that the last message from the cockpit of the missing flight was routine. "All right, good night," was the signoff transmitted to air traffic controllers five days ago.

Then the Boeing 777 vanished as it cruised over the South China Sea toward Vietnam, and nothing has been seen or heard of the jetliner since.

Those final words were picked up by controllers and relayed in Beijing to anguished relatives of some of the people aboard Flight MH370.

The new Chinese reports of the satellite images came after several days of sometimes confusing and conflicting statements from Malaysian officials.

Earlier Wednesday, the Malaysian military officially disclosed why it was searching on both sides of country: A review of military radar records showed what might have been the plane turning back and crossing westward into the Strait of Malacca.

That would conflict with the latest images on the Chinese website.

For now, authorities said the international search effort would stay focused on the South China Sea and the strait leading toward the Andaman Sea.

Chinese impatience has grown.

"There's too much information and confusion right now. It is very hard for us to decide whether a given piece of information is accurate," Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman Qin Gang said in Beijing. "We will not give it up as long as there's still a shred of hope."

"We have nothing to hide," said Malaysian Defense Minister Hishammuddin Hussein. "There is only confusion if you want to see confusion."

Flight MH370 disappeared from civilian radar screens at 1:30 a.m. Saturday at an altitude of about 35,000 feet above the Gulf of Thailand between Malaysia and southern Vietnam. It sent no distress signals or any indication it was experiencing problems.

The amount of time needed to find aircraft that go down over the ocean can vary widely. Planes that crash into relatively shallow areas, like the waters off Vietnam where the Malaysian jet is missing, are far easier to locate and recover than those that plunge deep into undersea canyons or mountain ranges.

By contrast, much of the Gulf of Thailand is less than 300 feet (91 meters) deep.

The Malaysian government said it had asked India to join in the search near the Andaman Sea, suggesting the jetliner might have reached those waters after crossing into the Strait of Malacca, some 400 kilometers from the flight's last-known coordinates.

Malaysian officials met in Beijing with several hundred Chinese relatives of passengers to explain the search and investigation, and to relay the last transmission that Malaysian air traffic controllers received before the plane entered Vietnamese airspace, according to a participant in the meeting.

Aviation officials in Vietnam said they never heard from the plane.

Reuters: C. Chan

Its sudden disappearance led to initial speculation of a catastrophic incident that caused it to disintegrate. Another possibility is that it continued to fly despite a failure of its electrical systems, which could have knocked out communications, including transponders that enable the plane to be identified by commercial radar.

Authorities have not ruled out any possible cause, including mechanical failure, pilot error, sabotage and terrorism, and they are waiting to find any wreckage or debris to determine what went wrong.

In June 2013, Boeing issued a safety alert to Boeing 777 operators, telling them to inspect for corrosion and cracks in the crown fuselage around a satellite antenna. The alert says one airline found a 16-inch crack in one plane, then checked other 777s and found more cracking.

"Cracks in the fuselage skin that are not found and repaired can propagate to the point where the fuselage skin structure cannot sustain limit load," Boeing said. "When the fuselage skin cannot sustain limit load, this can result in possible rapid decompression and loss of structural integrity."

Two U.S. Federal Aviation Administration technical experts and a regional representative are in Kuala Lumpur as part of an NTSB team supporting the investigation. Experts in air traffic control and radar are providing technical help, the board said.

Hishammuddin described the multinational search as unprecedented. Some 43 ships and 39 aircraft from at least eight nations were scouring an area to the east and west of Peninsular Malaysia.

"It's not something that is easy. We are looking at so many vessels and aircraft, so many countries to coordinate, and a vast area for us to search," he told a news conference. "But we will never give up. This we owe to the families of those on board."

Confusion over whether the plane had been seen flying west prompted speculation that different arms of the government might have different opinions about its location, or even that authorities were holding back information.

Earlier in the week, Malaysia's head of civil aviation, Azharuddin Abdul Rahman, was asked why the Strait of Malacca was being searched and replied, "There are things I can tell you, and things I can't," suggesting that the government wasn't being completely transparent.

If all those on board are confirmed dead, it would be the deadliest commercial air accident in 10 years.

Choi Tat Sang, a 74-year-old Malaysian, said his family is still holding out hope that the plane and all on board are safe. His 45-year-old daughter-in-law, Goh Sock Lay, was the chief flight attendant. Her 14-year-old daughter, an only child, has been crying every day since the plane's disappearance.

"We are heartbroken. We are continuing to pray for her safety and for everyone on the flight," he said.

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Associated Press writers Jim Gomez in Kuala Lumpur, Isolda Morillo in Beijing, Niniek Karmini in Jakarta, Indonesia, Joan Lowy in Washington, Cara Anna in New York and Rod McGuirk in Canberra, Australia, contributed to this report.

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Posted: 11 years ago
at this point I wish it is Hijacked , at least there is be a possibility of a good result. Watching CNN, they are showing an interview of the wife whose husband was on plane.They have two young sons. He was leaving for work, and left his ring and watch behind. Saying if something were to happen to him while he is away, his ring goes the first son who gets marry and watch goes to the second.
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: dazzelll

at this point I wish it is Hijacked , at least there is be a possibility of a good result. Watching CNN, they are showing an interview of the wife whose husband was on plane.They have two young sons. He was leaving for work, and left his ring and watch behind. Saying if something were to happen to him while he is away, his ring goes the first son who gets marry and watch goes to the second.


ya even i hope its hijacked cos then there would be a possibility of these ppl still being alive
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Posted: 11 years ago
^^ya but it's highly unlikely now. China wont publish something without knowing for sure. They def have better pictures of the debris, and they are probably 99% sure that it's plane's wreckage. They just dumb down the pictures to hide their technology.
It all adds up too, those pictures are taken right near to the place they lost the plane from radar. Hopefully by tomorrow, they will have definite answers.

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