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Posted: 11 years ago
If anybody here gets some free time...pls translate ange legate song, I would like to know the meaning of whole song.
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: Bella.

If anybody here gets some free time...pls translate ange legate song, I would like to know the meaning of whole song.


i will pm you by tomorrow...let me hear the song all over again...its in my ipod...the song is addictive...so sensual and beautiful...so soothing..romantic and passionate...SLB scores here...
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Posted: 11 years ago
Guys, this is a must read review 👍🏼 especially what in red !

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You can like,love or completely hate Ram-Leela.Everything is fine. Bt I felt ths is SLB's coming out film. Here's why http://moifightclub.wordpress.com/2013/11/17/ram-leela-is-bhansali-at-its-honest-best-gujju-loud-masala-and-raunchy/ ...


Ram-Leela is Bhansali at his honest best - Gujju, loud, masala and raunchy


The early reactions from previews of Sanjay Leela Bhansali's new film, Ram-Leela, clearly seems to be divisive. For any new film, i always find that exciting. Now that i have seen the film, it's easy to understand why. You might like it, fall in love with it too, and it's entirely possible that you felt like gouging out your eyeballs. And every reaction can be justified. But one thing you can't do - dismiss it completely. Because there's just too much packed into this one - you can just pick one thing and easily indulge in it like its director.

I feel this is Bhansali's coming out film. Coming out as a loud Gujrati masala filmmaker. Few weeks back, he even confessed that he is a "loud Gujarati" at heart. Well, that fits in perfectly with the film's promotions too. But one can't fake it so much. And when one fakes it, one delivers films like his last three - dead, plagiarised and bloated Guzaarish, boring and claustrophobic Saawariya, pretentious and ham-fest Black. It's always good to be back to own's roots. With apologies to Swades, apne hi Gujju colours me ghul jaana Bhansali ka muqaddar hota hai.

Though Khamoshi still remains his best work - the raw emotional chord strikes the perfect balance with a great soundtrack. He made his mark with his blockbuster Hum Dil De Chuke Sanam set in his home terrain. He used a similar canvas to re-paint Devdas. And now, he is back to his home turf again and has gone the whole hog. The language is not sanitised Hindi of HDDCS. Here everyone speaks in thick Gujju accent and sometimes it's difficult to follow the dialogues. His keywords have remained the same - big and beautiful - every scene, every frame, every drape. There's some typical Bhansali wizardry in the silent scenes - my favourite is the one when the lovers meet for the first time in the background of bright colourful gulal flying all over, and interestingly, the last time they meet, it's in similar pose. Aha, beauty.

He has just added a new one - passion raunchiness. There was never so much lust and physical act in any of his films and it's a refreshing change. From hyper-objectifying the hero's body to dialogues filled with sexual innuendos, pelvic and booby thrust to passionate kisses between the lead pair. It's all done with certain degree of aesthetics that one can expect in a SLB film, but it's all a new colour on his old canvas. It's fun to see that a filmmaker who has always wanted to be taken seriously and strictly positioned himself in a certain way, is going on this route. And with all his indulgences.

Like his most films, it's also set in some strange Bhansali-land. And i have made peace with the fact now. But this time we see mobile phones, po*n films, gun business, ports, and characters talk about social media too. The times they are a-changin', in Bhansalipur too.

I also felt this film bring backs the bonafide bollywood masala genre. With every filmmaker trying a Southie remake and calling it the "masala" film, all my senses have retired hurt. Race2, Once Upon A Time In Mumbai Dobara, Besharam, Himmatwala..the list is long. Some of the films don't even have a single scene which is well written and directed. I will better pick Ram-Leela - action hai, emotion hai, drama hai, gaane hai, ma hai, bhai hai, behen hai, suhaag raat hai, khoon kharaba hai, holi hai, diwali hai, aur (attempt to) rape bhi hai.

The two jarring aspects of the film are its duration and the screenplay. The basic story is adapted from Romeo-Juliet with elements of Ram(ayan), but the screenplay became too much of hotchpotch in the second half. The first half flows smoothly with Siddharth-Garima's playful dialogues, and Ravi Varman's lush photography capturing every grand set, authentic props and flashy colours meticulously used by production designer Wasiq Khan. They are in perfect sync. Add to that the combustible lead pair of Ranveer Singh and Deepika Padukone. Were they in love when they started shooting? Or Bhansal egged them on to get the best result on screen? Because it's difficult to be so comfortable and uninhibited in intimate scenes, especially on Indian screen. And those long, passionate kisses just added to the magic. When was the last time we saw something so real in our films? Like that scene where they kept kissing each other in quick succession, that's new on desi screen. So candid, so much at ease, and really that's how lovers kiss. Also, has she been lit from inside? With Gulshan Devaiah, Richa Chadda, Abhimanyu Singh and Supriya Pathak strongly supporting the second rank of characters, Sharad Kelkar and Barkha Bishit get noticed even in small roles.

And Dear Deepika, whatever are you smoking, please pass the joint to the bimbos of bollywood. It feels so good to know that finally we have an actress who can act and look hawt, is on top too. *sings , , , , *.

Just another small complain - my favourite and that bhakti-bhaav-se-bharpoor composition yeh laal ishq just doesn't get enough screen time. Even though the film felt long, i waited for the entire end credits just for the song.

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Posted: 11 years ago
@Bella, here is the translation for Ang Laga De Re...
Ang laga de re
Mohe rang laga de re
Main to teri joganiya
Tu jog laga de re

Touch me with your body,
Color me in your color
I have become your worshipper
impart your love to me / let me worship you.
(Joganiya actually means a woman who has left all material things in search of the spiritual...in the film's context, Leela is singing that she has left everything for Ram...and that she is just waiting to be accepted by him)
Ram ratan dhan
Lagan magan man
Tan mora chandan re
Ujli kori preet piyaa
satrang laga de re

My jewel and money is just Ram,
my heart is completely immersed in him,
my body is like sandalwood [which smells of him]
My love is clean, white,
O beloved, color it in the seven colors..
Raat banjar si hai..
Kaale khanjar si hai..
Tere seene ki lau
Mere andar bhi hai
Tu hawaa de ise
To meraa tan jale
Jalaa de re sang jalaa de re
Mohe ang laga de re

The night seems barren,
and feels like a black dagger..
The flame of your chest
is within me too..
Give it some air [to burn more]
so that my body burns..
burn me with yourself,
touch me with your body..

Raas hai raat mein
Teri har baat mein
Bolo main kya karoon
Aise haalaat mein
Hoon main teri malang
Tu hi mera nasha
Chadha de re bhang chadha de re
Prem ki bhang chadha de re

There is joy of love in the night,
and in everything you say..
tell me what I should do,
in such a situation..
I am addicted to you,
you alone are my drug / drink,
make me intoxicated..
make me intoxicated with the drink of love
(Bhaang is the concoction that is drunk on Holi which makes one highly intoxicated. It is also called the drink of love because it is associated with Lord Shiva!)
Edited by poppy2009 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: Mages



i will pm you by tomorrow...let me hear the song all over again...its in my ipod...the song is addictive...so sensual and beautiful...so soothing..romantic and passionate...SLB scores here...


Thank you 🤗
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: poppy2009

@Bella, here is the translation for Ang Laga De Re...

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<strong>Ang laga de re
Mohe rang laga de re
Main to teri joganiya
Tu jog laga de re

Touch me with your body,
Color me in your color
I have become your worshipper

impart your love to me / let me worship you.


(Joganiya actually means a woman who has left all material things in search of the spiritual...in the film's context, Leela is singing that she has left everything for Ram...and that she is just waiting to be accepted by him)


Ram ratan dhan
Lagan magan man
Tan mora chandan re
Ujli kori preet piyaa
satrang laga de re

My jewel and money is just Ram,
my heart is completely immersed in him,
my body is like sandalwood [which smells of him]
My love is clean, white,
O beloved, color it in the seven colors..


Raat banjar si hai..
Kaale khanjar si hai..
Tere seene ki lau
Mere andar bhi hai
Tu hawaa de ise
To meraa tan jale
Jalaa de re sang jalaa de re
Mohe ang laga de re

The night seems barren,
and feels like a black dagger..
The flame of your chest
is within me too..
Give it some air [to burn more]
so that my body burns..
burn me with yourself,
touch me with your body..



Raas hai raat mein
Teri har baat mein
Bolo main kya karoon
Aise haalaat mein
Hoon main teri malang
Tu hi mera nasha
Chadha de re bhang chadha de re
Prem ki bhang chadha de re

There is joy of love in the night,
and in everything you say..
tell me what I should do,
in such a situation..
I am addicted to you,
you alone are my drug / drink,
make me intoxicated..
make me intoxicated with the drink of love


(Bhaang is the concoction that is drunk on Holi which makes one highly intoxicated. It is also called the drink of love because it is associated with Lord Shiva!)



Thank you yaar...words ares so powerful... Perfect for that scene
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: -stigma-

I watched Ram Leela last night .. and I will give my honest view on it

I have mixed feelings about the movie ..
Although I expected to feel that the love story wasn't built up properly after reading some reviews. but I didn't feel that while watching the movie !
Their first meeting was just wow .. I want to watch the movie again and again to just watch that scene !
I wished if Ram and leela could have some conversation or something instead of ishqiya dhishkiyaon song .. not that it wasn't good, but I just wanted something else..
I liked the second part more that the first .. except some scenes ..
but the climax was so disappointing for me !
I prefer R&J original death .. I wish if SLB thought of something similar to &J death .. Romeo killed himself as he though that Juliet was dead, and she killed her self when she saw him dead next to her ..
Overall, it was a good movie (3.5 stars from me) .. but It left me dissatisfied !

Dissatisfied because there was a huge scope of improvement in term of story while the direction and the Performance of the whole cast was PERFECT ..
Honestly, I wasn't expecting this powerful performance from Deepika.. In the trailer and some songs promo she wasn't very convincing .. but she surprised me in the movie .. what a performance !
I always knew that Ranveer is a talented actor, and he had already impressed me in the song promos ! he did not disappointed me.. It's hard to believe that this is his 4th movie ! I can see him in the top within next few years
Deepika and Ranveer chemistry was so natural , and there so called "vulgarity" was so cute 😆 ..

Thankyou for ur honest review, yes the story does have holes in it, but its difficult when you are retelling such a famous story. Also the ending is very predictable and it was always going to be something a lot of people don't like as everyone wanted a happy ending for them. The same way the ending of devdas is so dissatisfying, I can't even watch the ending coz its so horrible.
But with the flaws there are so many positives and that is what is making ramleela work, such as the visuals, songs and exceptional acting.
Its been so long since every actor in a movie has created an impact, not one of them was overshadowed or performed bad, hats off to slb for being able to do this!
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: Humsafar.


Thank you! ❤️

Oh my god the brothers' story! Didn't remember that one. 😆 Yep there is a more emphasis on the widows' stories. Aww yeah, R&J consummated and Ram & Leela had their close moments too. 😳

Capulets and Montagues - Saneras and Rajris. Capulet ball - Holi celebration.
Also , Karsan looked much older than Leela, and in R&J Paris was much older to Juliet.
Paris would've been a good suitor to Juliet in terms of wealth, and this would've benefited Lord and Lady Capulet too. Same with RL, did Karsan die like Paris? I think I missed that part. 😆


😃 😳

Karsan bhai didn't die like Paris 😊 He just got sent back to the UK by Lady Don Leela 😆

Oh wow! You found so many more comparisons! 😃 Let's see if I can find some more 😆

Oh, one thing that was different was that there was no Father that helped out Romeo and Juliet. They actually just bhaag ke shaadi'd without the use of a mandir. 😆
There was no nanny for Leela either. She was much more independent and ferocious than Juliet, who seemed to weep more than anything else 😆


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Posted: 11 years ago
I want to mention that in the end scene something that broke my heart was when ram says that the person he loved the most he couldn't have (as in consummate) and leela replies she has never had someone, that was just horrible as even though they were married they weren't actually one with each other.
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: zarak65

I want to mention that in the end scene something that broke my heart was when ram says that the person he loved the most he couldn't have (as in consummate) and leela replies she has never had someone, that was just horrible as even though they were married they weren't actually one with each other.


yeah! that part really surprised me also, Zara! I found it really interesting at the same time, though. It sort of made a mockery of all the "vulgarity" comments about the film for months beforehand, because counter-suggestive to the trailers, nothing actually happened 🤣
But this scene, for me, also highlighted Ram and Leela's characters in the end... it was something that just stuck with me about Ram. Suddenly he was set a class apart from regular folk and became an SLB trademark character because of his ability to love beyond consummation. 😃 😳

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