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Posted: 12 years ago
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Its not ekta's fault if ppl take fiction as reality 😆
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Posted: 12 years ago
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I am against censorship. I think entertainment should be taken at face value for entertainment only. Too many people take objection over the simplest little things. I have not seen the movie yet, so I don't know who is right. But it seems frivolous. I mean horror films have always been chockfull of ridiculous, over the top clichs.

That being said I do somewhat empathize with this specific issue. Neo Paganism, Voodoo, Shamanism, Wiccan and some tribal religions are some of the world's most misunderstood religions. Movies always portray them as dark occults engaging in Satanic rituals. They caricaturize practitioners and show creepy rituals and ceremonies without explanations or context. They encourage society to ostracize and look down upon practitioners. In reality these religions are simply nature based religions. They are very different, but not dark and creepy. When you study the religions, you understand some obscure rituals.

India is a highly superstitious country, especially in rural parts. Many Indians don't have qualms with taking the law in their hands over beliefs. This is a country where honor killings still take place. People still hunt those who they believe to be witches, black magic practitioners or possessed to either perform exorcisms or kill. The Salem witch trials and witch hunts of Europe saw thousands of innocent women burned at the stake over such superstition. It is really not as frivolous. In many rural parts of Africa, South America, India – people still have Salem like trials and witch hunts.

I sympathize with these religious practitioners because they have it worse than minorities like gay people or Muslims or someone. They are such an obscure minority that most people don't even know much about their beliefs. Even educated people tend to view it as out of the movies or occult mumbo jumbo.

I don't think the movie should be censored. But I think more people not just in India, but across the world need an education in these minor and obscure belief systems.


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Posted: 12 years ago
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^Then what about the movie being released in India while millions of villagers are still uneducated? The issue is a double-edged sword, it has no easy answers.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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seriously? W*F? Indians needs something better to do. fix the justice system? not ART!
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Posted: 12 years ago
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She really has nothing better to do in life.
Great.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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I would hate to see this movie ruined by censorship it looks so amazing and totally modern thriller movie types
only coz one community doesnt approve of it as if villagers have theatres running ek thi dayan 5 minutes away from their houses
I dunno about that dayan legends though i know some parts of india people are still paranoid about this myth but still its just a movie

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Posted: 12 years ago
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Here's a rough sketch of what the debate's like:
Anti-Censorship argument: "Banning is not the answer. You want uneducated, superstitious villagers to not indulge in witch-burning--go hold Scientification Drives."

Pro-Censorship reply: "Sure, but all that education will take at least fifty years more. What about all the people who're gonna get influenced by the movie NOW?"

Like I said, no easy answer. This is a rare debate where both the sides are correct from their own viewpoints.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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I have watched Ek Thi Naayika & the show does support a lot of superstition prevelent in India so I think they would show it in Ek Thi Daayan.

I feel ipsita is right on her place. If they are showing burning women (witches?), its not a good thing potrayed in the film. The film says "Chudail ki saari taakat uski choti me hoti h", this is a worldwide release which will also be shown in rural areas & women are actually hunted there as suspected witches, so will all women having long chotis will be suspected as witches? Probably Yes which will further infuriate the witches superstitions.

I know that because of such things, you can't let the art affect so I think they should probably censor the oversensitive stuff & give out a huge disclaimer against some actions in the film which might promote superstition. That's the only way for both parties to be satisfied IMO.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Chamaila-Kutrea

People in the rural areas watching Ek Thi Daayan < People in the rural areas watching hindi serials.
Go appeal to the President to stop these rigorous daily soaps than an offbeat film like ETD. Probability of villagers believing in the daily soaps are higher.



Don't worry. Ekta, Rajan, & their kind would soon make soaps on witchcraft if Ek Tha Dyaan becomes a hit.

Isn't it better to weed than axing a huge banyan tree? Ipshita is concentrating on weeding, & I support her.

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Posted: 12 years ago
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Unless it is an explicit call to harm like a Neo Nazi propaganda film actively encouraging people to go kill Jews and black people, I don't think there should be censorship.

The problem with censorship is a lot more complex.

- Lack of censorship may hurt some sensibilities, but censorship actually infringes on the basic right of freedom of expression. A society without basic freedom is on a slippery slope to autocracy. People should always have the right to decide what they want to read, see, hear etc.

- Censorship should not be a replacement for basic education and law & order. Using censorship to compensate for failures in education and law & order, we allow for these institutions to get lax and grow weak. Controversy should be an opportunity to improve education and law & order, not subsidize it. If we say we are not ready yet, we never will be.

- The only way to educate the public and address law and order issues is to bring the subject up for discussion. Had censorship prevailed we wouldn't know civil rights and equality, we would have access to birth control and condoms, we would still live in segregated society. We have to realize that societies like Iraq, Iran, China the former Soviet Union use censorship with the exact same pro censorship argument "we are doing so to protect our society from harm and wrong. Our society is not ready for change yet". In a modern democracy the issues and contexts are different, but the pro-con framework is the same. Our goal should be forward, not backward to the ways of censorship past.

That is why even if I consider something as obscene, rotten, offensive, filth, I won't call for censorship. Firstly, it is my right to accept or reject something – not the governments. Secondly, it is my right to express my counter opinion, critique or argument – not the governments. I don't see a good reason to give my rights away. I'd rather be hurt and offended occasionally, that give up rights and freedom of choice. I never get why people are so up in arms for censorship.

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