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Posted: 12 years ago
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See I believe yes Sanjay Dutt might have changed in last 20 years but lives of victims has not changed in last 20 years.

Those victims deserve justice anyway possible
Edited by abby_girl30 - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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I hope he takes the punishment completely this time. He knows he made a mistake, owned up to it and should now finish the remaining term. Yes, it is tough but he now also knows that people really don't care too much about these things and when he comes out, he will still have his fans. Sad but true.

Only difference this time is that he is no longer the big or upcoming star that he was in those days. Maybe that is better for him.

When he went to jail last time, very few industry people supported him and visited him o(exceptions being some like Mahesh Bhatt). This time I hope people like Salman who otherwise go Sanju baba Sanju baba take time to visit him
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: anonymous39

[quote]I'm shocked. I thought he would get off because of connections. Somy looks like you and I have to eat our words.[/quote]


Sanjay Dutt already escaped from TADA due to Congress support. This is a much lesser conviction. His driver got 10 years in jail for moving the weapons, Sanjay only got 5 for actually being the owner and storing them. He's been stumping for Congress for years. I remember he got in some trouble and some complaints or maybe even a case was filed because he was making communal remarks (Congress party's bread and butter) about how he was targeted because his mother was muslim.

I don't believe the act guys like Sanjay and Salman put on. They change for the public when they get caught in something big and act like saints to clean their reputation but they are not trustworthy people.


W*F really? 🤢 These guys are all pro at blaming their drivers aren't they?

I knew he escaped TADA because of Congress + Bal Thackeray support, but I still didn't expect them to uphold his jail sentence because of these connections again. He's the biggest Congress supporter and his entire family has connections through Congress. Plus, he was bigger than a Shiney Ahuja, but I guess he is not as big now as he was during Munnabhai a few years back.

I always thought Sanjay was guilty. I don't buy the whole "I needed those weapons for security." You need security, you keep a simple revolver + get police protection, not assault weapons.
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Posted: 12 years ago
#74
At the very least, he should have informed police and may be prevented or reduced the blast and saved some lives.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Wow!
I'm quite shocked to say the least...was totally not expecting this.
I sorta feel bad too for his family/kids (just a few hours ago I had commented on another topic regarding this that he should be punished if he deserves it...) But, it seems like Dutt may have changed for good...Anywho, the political connection/protection theory makes perfect sense why the verdict wasn't out till now (since even Bal Thackrey isn't around anymore...)

However, holding up a case for so long and giving the verdict after 20 years is quite unfair. I'm not just referring to this particular case, but its quite the norm with the judical system that under influence from connections, cases can get delayed. Is it done in hopes that the evidences could be erased or the case could be forgotten?


Edited by khoslakadhokla - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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arre 😲 didn't he go to prison already for blasts case ???
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Posted: 12 years ago
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The driver was the guy that came with Abu Salem's brother to deliver the weapons to Sanjay's house. Sanjay had ordered them and asked for them and kept them in his house. He had gotten three AK 47's, hundreds of ammunition cartridges and hand grenades. The guy that got 10 years was the one who drove the car to deliver them. Not that I feel bad for him either but the I don't understand how the guy who drives the car to Sanjay's house gets more time in jail than Sanjay who actually ordered and owned the weapons.

Fearing for his life is a made-up story. He could have purchased a legal revolver, hired security guards and asked for police protection if that was the case.

The police had quotes from him after his arrest saying he has Muslim blood running his veins and he couldn't stand what's happening in Bombay.

You can read the full story with quotes and details here -- http://archive.tehelka.com/story_main28.asp?filename=Ne240307How_the_CS.asp
Edited by anonymous39 - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Dutt's strange

The courier who took the guns from Sanjay Dutt'sbungalow to Zaibunissa Kazi's house is convicted under TADA (and so is Zaibunissa), but Dutt, who asked for the weapons, kept them in his house and ordered their destruction when it looked like trouble, gets away with a milder rap under Arms Act

By Jigna Vora
Posted On Wednesday, November 29, 2006


While actor Sanjay Dutt's conviction under Arms Act and not under the much stricter Terrorist and Disruptive Activities (Prevention) Act on Tuesday brought whoops of cheer to Bollywood and his countless fans, it left many uncomfortable questions unanswered, the main being -- can a law apply differently to different people facing similar charges in a single case?

On Monday, Manzoor Ahmed, one of the 10 accused of helping Dutt acquire, hide and then get rid of AK-56 rifles, a 9 mm pistol, some hand-grenades and ammunition, was convicted under TADA.

On Tuesday, just minutes before Dutt's conviction was declared, Zaibunnisa Kazi, another of that group of 10, was found guilty under TADA.

While both Manzoor and Zaibunissa have been convicted of "heading and abetting" a terrorist act under TADA, Dutt has been given a clean chit and convicted only for illegal possession of arms under the much milder Arms Act. This despite the fact that the weapons that Manzoor and Zaibunissa handled were actually ordered by Dutt and the two were only helping him.

Manzoor, in fact, was in possession of Dutt's guns for less than half-an-hour. He had accompanied gangster Abu Salem to Dutt's Pali Hill bungalow to collect the bag which contained five AK-56 rifles and hand grenades that Dutt did not want. Manzoor delivered the consignment at Zaibunissa's house in Jogeshwari.

The bag was in Zaibunissa's house for a day or so and was later collected by some other co-accused. What went against Zaibunissa in the case was the fact that she had opened the bag's zip and checked its contents out.

However, why the same yardstick was not used for Dutt, who was in possession of those arms and ammunition for a much longer period is a mystery.

The TADA court order on Tuesday was also mum on Dutt's attempt to destroy the evidence. The actor had called Yusuf Nalwallah from Mauritius asking him to collect an AK-56 rifle from his residence and destroy it. This was done after Dutt came to know that the cops were looking for the gun.

While Nalwallah, who followed the instructions and destroyed the gun, was on Tuesday convicted under Arms Act for destruction of evidence, the verdict is silent on Dutt's role in the same.

Satish Borulkar, Public Prosecutor at Bombay Hight Court, said he could not understand why a designated TADA court has given different verdicts for different people for same charges. "Now it is up to the prosecution to highlight the issue in the Supreme Court in their appeal," he said.

Y P singh, former IPS officer and now a practising lawyer, said Dutt should have been convicted under Section 5 (5) of TADA, which deals with illegal possession of weapons in a notified area.

Entire greater Mumbai was declared a notified area immediately after the 1992-93 communal riots.


* Section 5 of TADA

Where any person who is in possession of any arms and ammunition, specified under the Schedule I to the Arms Rules, 1962, or bombs, dynamite or other explosive substances unauthorisedly in a notified area, he shall, notwithstanding anything contained in any other law for the time being in force, be punishable with imprisonment for a term which shall not be less than five years, but which may extend to imprisonment for life and shall also be liable to a fine.

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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: khoslakadhokla

Wow!

I'm quite shocked to say the least...was totally not expecting this.
I sorta feel bad too (just a few hours ago I had commented on another topic regarding this that he should be punished if he deserves it...) But, it seems like Dutt may have changed for good...Anywho, the political connection/protection theory makes perfect sense why the verdict wasn't out till now (since even Bal Thackrey isn't around anymore...)

However, holding up a case for so long and giving the verdict after 20 years is quite unfair. I'm not just referring to this particular case, but its quite the norm with the judical system that under influence from connections, cases can get delayed. Is it done in hopes that the evidences could be erased or the case could be forgotten?



@bold:
it is done, so that the fickle public memory forgets, and those who are accused, with political connections and money power get away with it. And those who lost everything, usually the poor and middle class people just pray to god that karma goddess catches these people up.

changed for good is a very convenient term. What of those people who were killed?
You know recently one delhi rape accused hung himself and then his parents said the same thing, he made a mistake but he changed for good.
So we can all change for good after murdering someone and escape punishment.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: tannipartner


@bold:
it is done, so that the fickle public memory forgets, and those who are accused, with political connections and money power get away with it. And those who lost everything, usually the poor and middle class people just pray to god that karma goddess catches these people up.

changed for good is a very convenient term. What of those people who were killed?
You know recently one delhi rape accused hung himself and then his parents said the same thing, he made a mistake but he changed for good.
So we can all change for good after murdering someone and escape punishment.


I think you may have misunderstood my post. In no way do I even intend to sympathize with him...I just feel that the punishment had been long overdue and who knows even if it means anything to him. For the accused to actually feel guilty and serve for their crime, the punishment has to be effectively placed within a short period of the crime rather than after two decades when the accused may not even correctly remember the details of the incident and the wrong they have done.

Dutt's case is a bit different...he was accused of possessing arms rather than being directly involved. So, the whole aspect of reforming over this time period should be looked at differently than the other criminals you've mentioned. However, that does not take away the fact that he deserves the punishment and probably an even longer sentence than the one given to his driver!
I just feel bad for the new family he has and his kids who aren't even old enough to understand this...but, as I said in another topic about this...he should reap what he sowed.

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