BEBO: Did she EVEN surpass Rani, Preity, Aish?! - Page 10

Its funny that the "REIGNING QUEEN" for all these years, is in fact not the queen of anything. She has no more face value than a newcomer like Asin and is miles behind Kat.
Performance wise she's not even in the league of PC and Vidya.

So I ask again...can Kareena do a Vidya or a Kat and carry a film?

Originally posted by: Enycedoll

God what a mess of a thread.

Perhaps it would help what kindof surpassing is being discussed? Performances or movies that hit big at the box office. That basically seems to be the difference in opinion here. And its been narrowed down to Rani vs Kareena

First ill tell u this, kareena herself will say shes honored to be compared to Rani in terms of performance. Rani is legions ahead of Kareena. Theres no disputing that. And then when it comes to box office, kareena would be the reigning queen in that department. But then she barely contributed much to those box office hits. Those movies wouldve worked with any actress.

And the only way id compare rani and madhuri is in terms of performances. Not box office success because i believe madz was ahead in that department. But yeah, rani's an acting power house and no one in there right mind will deny it nor will they say Kareena is ahead. Thats just blind. If kareena gave performances like chameli, dev and so on, Ranis been giving performances like those from her first movie.

Yeh the fact that kareena is "miles behind" someone else is debatable...rani i'll give...shes done superior work so therz no question abt tht...priety, well...no...her claim to fame was KHNH after which she was never really known for other power packed performances unlike rani...so in terms of talent...its rani > kareena > priety...in terms of popularity...well, kareena has her own wax statue, has been in the top 5 league since she debuted in all kinds of polls...(including ones like TOI most desirable and filmfare power list wherein the only other actress featured was rani)

Originally posted by: SoEulMate_LoVeR

lol oh yea natl award and filmfare mein koi fark nahin raha. 😆 what do u want to debate on? get ur points straight first. i cant help u if u think she hasnt had hits since JWM. lol. hits nahin hoti toh aaj woh UNEMPLOYED hoti. other than that national awards nahin hai toh woh bhi mil jayega...judging by other contenders in the category. lol. she has critical acclaim to her credentials. she has popularity. and she has just enuff hits. i just think ur not able to take the fact that she has it ALL...hence the theory on her sexual activity. lol.

Actually I think you can't prove either.

I'm arguing the "REIGNING QUEEN" ...What is she the queen of? BOX OFFICE...Vidya opens better,Kat opens better. Hell Asin opens better.
PERFORMANCE? Not even close to Vidya,PC...even ASH.

RANI was the queen.

VIDYA IS THE QUEEN.

Kareena's has had massive failures and no part in her massive successes. Thats how her career sums up for me.

Originally posted by: pathaka

Yeh the fact that kareena is "miles behind" someone else is debatable...rani i'll give...shes done superior work so therz no question abt tht...priety, well...no...her claim to fame was KHNH after which she was never really known for other power packed performances unlike rani...so in terms of talent...its rani > kareena > priety...in terms of popularity...well, kareena has her own wax statue, has been in the top 5 league since she debuted in all kinds of polls...(including ones like TOI most desirable and filmfare power list wherein the only other actress featured was rani)

people use her as a selling point in their films...half the promotion of ra.one was based on chammak challo number, and shes the biggest star in the golmaal series with her item numbers being used to market the film (Tu sala, its rocking, yeh mera dil)...producers clearly wouldnt pay her crores if she wasnt worth it.

the problem with kareena is she dosent balance well...she either does full throttle substancial roles/art house cinema stuff or she does completely commerical glam doll roles...

I dunt think the "existence" of her talent is questionable...its debatable ofcourse...depending on how much one likes her as an actress...but shes not here for "nothing"...2/3rds of the industry ranked her at the very top of the current generation of actresses...shabana azmi said on KWK tht if they ever made arth again, she would want kareena for her role...so questioning her skills as an actress is a bit pointless...she has made an impact with her credentials most certainly...yes her choice of roles may deserve brickbats...but can u blame her?

Back in 2005 when rani and priety were working with mainstream directors like SLB, Rakesh roshan, Yash chopra etc...kareena worked with the likes of Govind nilani, sudhir mishra and vishal bharadwaj...then, she was termed as a flop actress despite all the awards and acclaim she recieved for Dev, omkara and chameli...

when she did do all the movies with substantial roles, people wrote her off as a flop actor...and now if she does commerical cinema...people are ready to write her off as an actress...had she done a Dev in the same year as a Ra.one, then perhaps she wouldnt have had to face any critisism...

Wax statues, Polls are all PR exercises. They really don't mean anything. There's a reason Kajol ,Aamir, Sridevi etc are not in it.

Originally posted by: guess_wh0

Wax statues, Polls are all PR exercises. They really don't mean anything. There's a reason Kajol ,Aamir, Sridevi etc are not in it.

I am not a Kareena fan but to be fair she cannot be dismissed as being someone has terrible as Asin is. More than polls, wax statues, item numbers and how much money a film made I would give credence to how the industry is reacting to a star. And right now Kareena is being offered or considered for the best performance oriented roles where a heroine's presence matters. Katrina definitely is more popular and Vidya commands respect and along with them Kareena is one of the top 3 actresses of Bollywood.

Originally posted by: guess_wh0

Actually I think you can't prove either.

I'm arguing the "REIGNING QUEEN" ...What is she the queen of? BOX OFFICE...Vidya opens better,Kat opens better. Hell Asin opens better.
PERFORMANCE? Not even close to Vidya,PC...even ASH.

RANI was the queen.

VIDYA IS THE QUEEN.

Kareena's has had massive failures and no part in her massive successes. Thats how her career sums up for me.

Originally posted by: -ksh-

I am not a Kareena fan but to be fair she cannot be dismissed as being someone has terrible as Asin is. More than polls, wax statues, item numbers and how much money a film made I would give credence to how the industry is reacting to a star. And right now Kareena is being offered or considered for the best performance oriented roles where a heroine's presence matters. Katrina definitely is more popular and Vidya commands respect and along with them Kareena is one of the top 3 actresses of Bollywood.

The industry reacts differently to star kids. Thats a proven fact.
PR is everything today. And Kareena is a master. Sonam is following her foot steps. She's considered a star without anything substantial to her credit. Also there really isn't much competition like on the actors side.
Katrina, PC, Vidya, Kareena,Deepika,Sonam.Asin. Those are the only leading ladies we have today.
Pick one.

kareena and good actress what a joke😆