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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: nirvanlove

Am so Glad nikita that there are doctors and people who are toiling in hospitals for patients more than money. proud of you and rest f the doctors there.
but it is true that for money doctors are actually killing patients. a friend's mother had pain in her legs, went to Max/Apollo or fortis i dont know which one. the doctor injected something, and his mother was dead there and then.
my cousin was injected with a fungus infected glucose bottle , she died , she was suffering from fever and wanted to go to school the next day to give her exams.

I have heard of many such incidents Nirvan, but you know, I have seen so many doctors around me working hard for the patients that my faith and respect in my community still stands.
What I wanted to say through my looong post was that the 21 medical institutions who are angry with Amir, are, in all probability, GOVERNMENT institutions. Most of them are headed by people who have got President Awards and stuff, so their statements make news. The youth in these hospitals comprises of interns, residents (PG students) and lecturers- who do most of the work. Therefore they obviously felt angry when they felt that the WHOLE profession was being targeted, cos they genuinely do a lot of work for very little pay. Hence the outrage on FB.
In my hospital at least, such mistakes by doctors are not treated lightly. The seniors take action, and a report is also submitted.
Edited by nikitagmc - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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these docs must be those who also work on commission 😛
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: Nitu_TheTwisted


just tell her that SRK is jealous of Aamir and that's what I call an immortal statment 😆 even in a funny mode 😉😆

Aamir is jealous of Shahrukh.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: angels_eyes

Instead of making Aamir apologize They should apologize for the fact that there are rotten appels between then and They should also do something About it in instead of demaning apology

Exactly...these doctors are shooting the messanger...🤢
Instead of looking around them...to see who the rotten apples are and doing something about it...they have the galls to ask Amir for an apology...really what F**king idiots🤢
If there are good doctors...and there are many...no doubt about it...then they are doing their jobs...it is what they are supposed to do...its the oath that they have taken...even one bad doctor is one too much...even one life lost is too much...so these doctors who are claiming to be good ones and yet asking aamir for an apology...really need to wake up and now that they know about it...they need to do something fruitful...like cancel the licenses of the corrupt doctors🤢...and really if anyone thinks that the good ones really didn't know that there were bad ones among them then they are f**king idiots too...theyknew everything and they kept quiet about it...and now they want to shoot Amir for bringing it out in the open🤢
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: sheee

Aamir is jealous of Shahrukh.

u r too cute shee😆
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Posted: 13 years ago
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They have being a lot of info on fb on doc pages ...just posting few here...
POST NO.3
DOCTORS VS AAMIR KHAN

Dear All,
you might have watched Satyamev Jayate episode 4...
there are some hidden facts of Mr Rai case...
these have been received in my mail box as a forward.
Pl. see details of one of the cases discussed in the
show; the other side of the story

I have hidden the details of the doctor

The complainant (Mr. Rai) has provided false
information and also with held crucial information which may have made Aamir Khan believe the
fabricated story of Pankaj Rai.

1. Mr. Rai never informed Aamir Khan that Mrs.
Seema Rai was registered for a cadaver
transplantation more than one year prior to
surgery. The call on the night of admission was
made because a cadaver donor had become
available. Cadaver transplantation has to be done emergently, otherwise the organ(s) will decay and
become useless. That is why the patient was
admitted on the night of 1 May 2010. The patient
and her family were all informed about risks and
benefits of transplantation for more than 2 years
(since June 2008).

2. Mr. Rai, Mrs. Rai and Abha Rai all were again
counseled for more than 1 hour on the night of
admission about kidney and pancreas
transplantation. Subsequently they also discussed
with their relative in New York. Then on the night
of 1 May itself Mr. Rai personally informed the doctors to proceed with kidney + pancreas
transplantation. The Informed Consent form was
signed on the night of 1 May itself and handed
over the ward doctor. The Karnataka Medical
Council as well as the National Law School of India
have investigated the Informed Consent issue and clearly stated that Informed Consent was indeed
taken prior to surgery. In fact, if the Informed
Consent was not given on the night of 1 May, the
organ would have been allocated to the next
patient on the waiting list for cadaver
transplantation who was already admitted to another Hospital. (Whenever a cadaver donor is
available, several patients on the waiting list such
as Seema Rai are called and advised to get
admitted.)

3. Mr. Rai never asked anybody in the Hospital to
stop the surgery at any time. He was plainly lying
when he made a statement to that effect to Aamir
Khan. On the contrary, during the entire
hospitalization, Mr. Rai was praising the doctors for
their hardwork in trying to save his wife.

4. The patient did not receive 119 units of blood,
i.e., 60 liters of blood. She received 33 units of
blood over 4 days which is about 10 liters since
she had developed a massive bleeding condition
called Disseminated Intravascular Coagulation (DIC).
She also received platelets, FFP and other blood products to correct DIC.

5. The surgeon is definitely qualified to conduct
pancreatic transplantation as well as kidney
transplantation. He is trained at the world famous
Hospitals in the United States where he had
conducted numerous multi-organ transplantation
surgeries.

6. The Hospital was registered for multi-organ
transplantation. There was a clerical error in the
Certificate which was acknowledged by the Health
Department. The Health Department have clearly
stated in their report that registration for liver
includes pancreas as well (since the skill required for transplantation of both these organs is one and
the same).

7. Mr. Rai also withheld from Aamir Khan that the
Karnataka Medical Council has thoroughly
investigated the case and found no evidence of
any negligence on the part of the doctors

ADMIN : Dr.Azhar Sheikh
www.facebook.com/mohd.azharsheikh

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Posted: 13 years ago
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Message to AMIRKHAN - READ AND SHARE ALL
MEDICOS N DOCTORS.
Dear Mr. Amir Khah,
"NOT ALL DOCTORS ARE GREEDY"
"THERE IS NO PROFESSION THAT IS ABSOLUTELY
CLEAN"
"DOCTORS ARE OBLIGED TO SERVE BY CHOICE, NOT BY
COMPULSION" Sir,
I have been a big fan or your work, life and
principles. I am also a fan of 'Satyamev Jayate'. But I
was shocked to see the episode on 27th May,
2012. You are an Icon. You should have thought
well and done the homework before doing such a biased show. There are only two people in the film
industry that are being taken seriously by the
thinking class of society, You and Amitabh
Bacchhan. So, when you give such a biased and
one sided version of a story, it hurts. Speaking
about such a thing on a "commercial" TV show is bad. (I am sure you have taken a big amount, only
doctor are supposed to do charity and social work,
not actors!!! Right!) I want to highlight few important points here. And
yes I am qualified to make observations as I am a
medical student. 1. Your guests and audience (the words were
almost put in their mouth) said that private colleges
charge a capitation fee of 40 – 50 Lacs for MBBS,
you should have also produced some evidence of
such practice. Like you call a victim in all your
episodes, why not here? And do the same story Engineering, Architecture, Law and MBA colleges,
do you think they are clean? Why target doctors
alone? 2. You said Since 2001, government opened 31
medical colleges and 106 private institutes were
opened. – Please note that today in India, there are
a total of 181 Private and 152 Govt Medical
colleges. So the number is not as bad s you
projected. Don't project only the time period which suits your story. Either give a complete picture or
do not give a picture at all!
And also, please find out how many of these
private colleges are owned by politicians? 95% of
Private colleges in India are owned and run by
politicians. It is a bloody nexus between politicians and MCI. The corruption by politicians is to blamed
for the mess, not doctors!!! 3. One of your guest (Dr. Gulhati) said that doctors
ask for 30% commission from Pharma companies
to write their drugs. That is baseless, over-the-roof
and sensationalizin g the matter. That is as true as
"Most Leading actors ask newcomers to sleep with
them" or "Lawyers take money from both the sides in a legal battle" or "Most chartered
accountants teach their clients how to save tax and
also pass info to taxman on where his client saved
tax". I know all of you will shout "Where is the
proof?". So are doctors!!! I am not trying to sensationalize things as you did
on your show by shading those fake tears, but just
trying to project that allegations are easy to make. I
know you will say that this was the opinion of our
guest, and not yours. But you provided a platform
for these fake allegations. 4. You compared the numbers of Licenses cancelled
in England and in India. I must say your team is
quite resourceful and please collect and compare
following details also –
a.Number of doctors beaten on duty by goons
from various political outfits in government hospitals in UK and India in last 10 years, and also
the number of people convicted for such crime.
b.The Stipend (Salary a post-graduate trainee
doctor/intern gets) or Salary and accommodation
facilities provided to the doctors of the two
countries. c.The duty hours and working conditions of the
doctors of the two countries.
d.The academic and research infrastructure being
provided to the medical students. 5. You said that the most brilliant students who
take up medicine, should take it only for service to
mankind, they should go to other fields if they
want to earn. Why? Are we living in imperialism?
Are doctors not allowed to earn and spend a good
life? You were asking Dr. Devi Shetty whether he can do humanitarian work and Earn at same time?
This is like asking Amirkhan or Shahrukh-khan
their income and generalizing it for every actor in
the industry (Even junior artists). Sir, just as there
are only few Khans and Kapoors, There are even
fewer Devi Shetty and Naresh Trehan who run their chain of Multi-specialty hospitals spread all
over the country. See what it takes to become a
doctor and then give such "Geeta-Gyan".
a. 5 and half year of MBBS training and 1 more year
of Compulsory Rural Internship at Rs. 15000 -
20000 per month. (Any other field eg. Engineering, Management, a person would become
Postgraduate in this much time and start earning
double the amount.)
If one doesn't study further, the pay at this step is
22,000 per month.
b. After above 6 and half years of Graduation, 3 more years of Postgraduation, followed again by
compulsory rural / Government job for 1 year or
pay Rs. 25Lac bond.
If one doesn't study further, the pay at this step is
40,000 per month.
c. After this above 10 and half years, 3 more years of Superspeciality , followed by 1 year of Govt job
or a Bond of Rs. 2 Crore. And the seats are so few with tough competition,
there tends to be a gap of a year or two in
preparing for various entrance exams. 6. Why only Doctors are being forced to work in
rural and government hospitals after their study?
Why only we should pay government if we don't
want to do it? The rural/Govt sector needs help of Engineers,
Lawyers, Chartered Accountants and MBAs also. Why aren't the Engineers sent to rural areas to
design and monitor roads and industrials
development?
Why aren't the Lawyers forced to work as Public
prosecutors before they can join some big foreign
corporate firm? Why aren't the CAs asked to work in CAG office
and various other government financial sectors
before joining Multinational Giants? Now government wants that doctors should not
immigrate to other countries without asking them.
Why? Are the IIT/IIM students stopped before they
flee to foreign countries for big fat salaries? So,
why us? What is it that government of society has
done for doctors that they should repay? They bloody can't even protect them from goons while
on duty. 7. You say that doctors are writing unnecessary
and costly medications. Do we decide the price of a
drug? Do we manufacture or give license to drug
manufacturers? Controlling the price of essential
drugs is a government job. We are helpless. Sir, its easy to point fingers. We don't say that all is
well. But all is not well anywhere. Its a different
thing creating awareness about dowry or female
feticide. But its entirely different to comment on
such a technical and complicated issue without
getting into the details of it. You have maligned the entire medical fraternity.
For every 10 doctors who are doing wrong, there
are more than 1000 healers. You owe us an
apology!!! This issue is not as simple as you think it
is! Please show stories which are unbiased and
straight-forwar d. You cannot do justice to such an issue, especially after charging a whooping
amount for creating awareness!!! (We hear that Amir has charged 3 crores for
episode of satyamevjayate in which he spreads
the message to doctors that they should not make
money and do social service!!! How sacred!!! I
don't know if its true, but well, it's the season of
allegations!) "We Doctors may be doing little social service, But
at least we are not charging for it!"

Admin - Dr.Azhar Sheikh
www.facebook.com/mohd.azharsheikh
— with Tarendra Tiwari and 47 others.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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We do agree all docs are not murderers or corrupt, but sadly some are...
Instead of crying on how these people were exposed on SMJ, you all should unite and boycott such docs...let them realize what they were and are doing with patients
Boycott them from associations, meetings[if not officially but verbally]...on the trips[which they enjoy majorly from pharma companies]
Patients should boycott them and dont go to them...till they are free of charges...or else terminate license if guilty
The responsibility lies to all


Edited by ..Sonii.. - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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^^^^ Sonii!!! I missed you!!
Read my post on pg 4
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Before Sataymev Jayate

how many knew the real price of the medicines ? How many knew medicines can be this cheap ?

how many knew the Dr frm Rajastahan and his effort to sell Generic Drugs ?


How many knew that this field is such a big business ... Commission on laboratory Tests , operations , Drug companies etc etc etc ( i had little idea abt this , very little idea that some ppl use this profession as business but nothing in detail ... can u imagine poor ppl or less educated to know all abt this ? )

so these docs have a problem that now aam janta is aware of these issues ? so they want aamir to apologise ?

now if they will prescribe a Brand medicine , patient can ask for generic medicines and they won't get their commission frm drug company ...is this their issue ?

again Aamir never Said every Doc is like this , we audience also know not everyone is like this But there r Many

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