How is Bollywood better than Hollywood??

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Posted: 13 years ago

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I guess it's just a difference in taste. I can't stand melodrama (for the most part). Emotions can be shown without even using a drop of glycerin or laughing hysterically. You can show all your pain, happiness, everything by your expression, without loud, screeching music playing in the background or behaving as though the world is about to shatter.

Requiem for a Dream
Blood Diamond
A Beautiful Mind
The Shawshank Redemption
The Pianist
Lord of the Rings trilogy

^ Now those are the ones that has the power to move me. If people think they are devoid of "emotions" simply because you won't find Kajol screeching or Jaya Bachchan shedding tears or SRK running his hands through his hair, then so be it. 😆

P.S. I don't have a problem with people preferring melodrama rather than subtly depicting things. It's a personal choice at the end of the day.

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Hollywood is one way of filmmaking, as is Bollywood. There are many others - Korean, Japanese, Iranian, Pakistani, Chinese, Nigerian, British, French, Russian and so on. In fact, there is more to Indian cinema than Bollywood. I think some of the best romantic films I have seen recently have been Telugu and have featured Siddharth 😊

I understand that we tend to compare, because it is only by comparing that one makes sense of things - this is not good because I know what good is, XYZ is good.

There are things I love about Bollywood, and those that I love about Hollywood. At the same time, both are dominated by formulaic filmmakers oriented towards maximizing profit - Bollywood thinks it will make more money through melodrama, while Hollywood thinks it will do so through more slickness and less intense emotion. Both are caught up in their own ways of doing things, and so neither is better according to me.

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their animated movies have more emotions than in real ones...😆 can any one movie go beyond the lion king...the movie which set records after so many years and still ruled the box office topping two significant weeks in a row...and the movie certainly has great emotions...a great background score...as well...

if someone says tht he prefers the emotion right in the movie he feels its not an argument but an opinion...nobody will waste time in comparing a baseless subject one on one...its just like its own taste...agar hollywood ke paas spiderman hai to bollywood ke pass 'MAA' hai 🤣 my dad has a whole room of VHS collections of hollywood masterpieces..i have grown watching king and i, the ten commandments, taras bulba, solomon sheeba, this kind of movies were played almost every month at my house...these all movies were great and have significant values..especially i would like to menton here how still big fan i am of the movie JAWS..it continues to haunt the first time i saw it...dats a movie...a perfect masterpiece although the climax was illogical when the shark blew up with a bullet shot at such a far distance but still it was EPIC...and i dont think its overrated too...i love holly films, and my username is from a movie character..

having said all these things...somehow i connect more to my movies...whatever the way they are...again i am there to put emphasis on which is greater than which...its all abt in the taste and liking...

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I switched from only watching Bolly films to only watching Holly films a few years ago...I think film makers are trying too hard with the excessive gimmicks...and I guess I've grown to appreciate subtlety which Bolly films really don't have

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Originally posted by: sunflower52
Those who are saying hollywood can not make emotional movies have not watched the right one. Their is more subtle.

That's precisely the point I was trying to make, only you put it down concisely. Just because the likes of Transformers or Pirates of the Caribbean rakes in all the money, does not mean those are only type of movies Hollywood make. The emotional factor is present in Hollywood dramas as well - and in my opinion, they work much better than most Bollywood emotional scenes - it's just theirs is different from the usual melodrama we have been subjected to watch from our childhood.

I <3 Shawshank Redemption. Now that's something incredibly entertaining and yet very moving. Have you seen Requiem for a Dream? It's too disturbing and terrifying - the stellar performances from Connelly and Burstyn brings alive the horror of drug usage. Lord of the Rings is an incredible cinematic achievement - I didn't like the last installment all that much though. Blood Diamond is hard-hitting, and it totally brought alive the condition of Africa. Haven't seen Schindler's List. I liked The Pianist too. All of these films expressed emotions without going overboard.

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^^oh yes absolutely...

See, when i say ppl find the melodrama entertaining..i dunt necessarily mean they cry buckets everytime they watch k3g ...i dunt cry at all😆...that is not the kind of film which can "move" you...that is a film to entertain you...so all the crying and loudness is not to stir you up emotionally, but its all part of a big lavish loud spectacle of song dance and melodrama that defines bollywood for the west...so its part of a "cinematic" experience, it never feels real, so it never moves you as such...because u know its a film,you know everything will work out in the end...but tht is a form of entertainment ppl enjoy watching too...

if i want to be truly moved,then ofcourse, subtlety is the way to go.its more realistic...so u can relate to the film...

but yeh,i do enjoy watching the unrealistic, masala potboilers/epic melodramas too because they are entertaining at the end of the day...

Realistic or over-the-top, both can be engaging as long as they are well made i guess...i can enjoy swades and OSO too...just that swades moves me, and OSO lets me have some fun...

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Originally posted by: smartie_pants
that is what non-bollywood watchers find the most engaging in a hindi film...

I'd just like to point out that a handful of non-Bollywood watchers finding the Bollywood-ish appeal (by which I mean the things that Bollywood is primarily known for) likable or engaging doesn't mean it's well-liked by the majority of them. They might find it different, but it's hardly considered a cinematic achievement in the grander scheme. It's not really surprising that Bollywood movies are hardly ever showcased (?) at international film festivals.

I disagree with Bollywood having more colors or being more vibrant. Have you seen Hugo? 😃 Incredible cinematography it has, with the most vibrant colors imaginable. And if you meant colorful in a figurative sense, there are Hollywood potboilers / pop-corn flicks too, no? Hollywood film is not only about artsy/serious drama just as Bollywood films are not only about masala or running around the trees. 😆 In fact I think Hollywood has some of the best 'colorful' rom-coms ever.

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Originally posted by: smartie_pants
^but yeh,i do enjoy watching the unrealistic, masala potboilers/epic melodramas too because they are entertaining at the end of the day...
Realistic or over-the-top, both can be engaging as long as they are well made i guess...i can enjoy swades and OSO too...just that swades moves me, and OSO lets me have some fun...

Oh sure, same here. 😃 Films are a source of entertainment/escapism to me and I certainly don't watch them for any educational or productive purposes. Saying anything else would be pretentious.

It just so happens that I don't like most of the Bollywood masala flicks they churn out, especially the ones of recent times, including OSO. In fact I'd say that, despite of being so well-known for this genre, this is one genre that Bollywood mostly doesn't excel at.
Most Hollywood popcorn flicks turn out to be trash too, but there are some really good ones. As an example, I thoroughly enjoyed the first Pirates of the Caribbean (the sequels were rubbish though)! Now that was pure cinematic awesomeness as well as being well-made technically and artistically!

Koolchick: Great Hum Tum sigg and Avi! Brings back so many memories! Now that was a time I was crazily obsessed over Bollywood.

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^Thanks! Those were the days when I was actually a true Bollywood phanka😆

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Originally posted by: Beyond_the_Veil

I'd just like to point out that a handful of non-Bollywood watchers finding the Bollywood-ish appeal (by which I mean the things that Bollywood is primarily known for) likable or engaging doesn't mean it's well-liked by the majority of them. They might find it different, but it's hardly considered a cinematic achievement in the grander scheme. It's not really surprising that Bollywood movies are hardly ever showcased (?) at international film festivals.

I disagree with Bollywood having more colors or being more vibrant. Have you seen Hugo? 😃 Incredible cinematography it has, with the most vibrant colors imaginable. And if you meant colorful in a figurative sense, there are Hollywood potboilers / pop-corn flicks too, no? Hollywood film is not only about artsy/serious drama just as Bollywood films are not only about masala or running around the trees. 😆 In fact I think Hollywood has some of the best 'colorful' rom-coms ever.

Well, the statement abt bollywood being more colourful as such is more generalised...generally, because we have such elaborate costumes, sets, jewellery song and dance routines compared to hollywood, the films are consistently more on colour and vibrant cinematography.

And by my previous statement on non-bollywood watchers...again, its generalized...im just saying wht i see...most of the bollywood related blogs and forums on the Internet are run by ppl of non-indian background, who just happen to have an interest in bollywood and indian film industries...I dunt think i was talking abt our films being accepted in film festivals abroad because the standard bollywood masala is not one for film festivals anyway...i was talking more abt mass/general audience acceptance...

my group of non indian friends prefer to watch devdas over Don 2 ..hence, i made a generic statement tht since they dunt get to see all the melodrama, the culture, the costumes, the song and dance in regular hollywood movies, they prefer the standard bollywood affair more than ones which possibly try to ape the west, because they've already seen all tht done in a much better fashion in hollywood.

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