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Posted: 13 years ago
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The names i mention of celeb which get +ve words just for having low profile, are they not given chance to gain Success or Stardom like famous superstars?

Everybody gets chance at Box Office, Every Actor's movie is showcase to world all over, who is stopping them 2 go for publicity campaign, or do whatsoever to get big openings to their films?

I assume atleast a minimum budget of Rs.5-10 is more or less invested in any film. Money is invested in their films also. If they can't please larger audience then why other's who make big becomes the target of bias -ve response??

Those who make BIG y they shud be targeted more? Success n Fans can't be bought by Money, if they did get then it's their Charm n HardWork. Believe it or not.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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agar baingan ka bhav 500 rs per kilo ho, to phir log kyiun na ussey kosay
Edited by bamboocopter - 13 years ago
Posted: 13 years ago
#13
well the thing that irks me here is on Akshay Kumar. I just saw thread on dezi boys movie is not even out and some negative remarks already.
People will say how hes well liked but his movies are nonsense. Just because lately some movies are ok does not mean hes not a good actor. He is an actor who has bounced back, He tarted with action once it got tiring he did serious drama types and comedies. He was popuar in the 90's then his movies were doing just ok in late 90's and then when Gharam Masala came out he bounced back . Also his movie Anadz and his pairing with Priyanka was a hit but than rumors came out and hit jodi last seen in Mugshe shaadi karo ke. He then came back big time with Namastey London, welcome, and block buster Singh is King with Katrina is new lucky mascot.. Yet people here now say no one cares on his movies, his comedies are mundane , etc... even Akshay gets that hes over done them and that is why he his revamping with once upona time in Mumbai 2 eyc. Yet people talk oh why he in it, like he is a talentless actor. Hes not hes verstatile just because he does not get awards like others. or that here he does not have out spoken supporters but in poll here people voted on him. so means people do like him, but to say hes had his run is wrong. He is an actor who goes through phases.
Yet amongst the three Khans he has stood his own ground. And in 2008-2009 he was on top with back to back hits and was named as number entertainer overseas. His luck is not by accident but his hard work
Edited by wat_up - 13 years ago
Posted: 13 years ago
#14

Originally posted by: smartie_pants

its simple billa...people tend to root for the underdogs...


the people u mentioned like kalki, chitrangadha etc, they are the underdogs...they dunt have big hits, or huge fan following, they do lesser films and are low profile...so therz less exposure of them and their flaws as an actor/personality...so because therz less exposure, therz nothing much to crisitize abt them...we tend to look at them in a more positive way because we know much less abt their flaws than we know abt a certain salman or an srk...so their interviews, performances and anything abt them infact seems to be a refreshing respite from the regular khan bhajan...

with salman, srk, katrina...because they are so popular, most find them overrated and over exposed coz no one likes a particular celebrity being shoved in their face by the media...so, there tends to be a natural feeling of them being "overrated" and not deserving all the attention...people get bored of them quite easily because they are overexposed...furthermore, their flaws become more prominent because they do more films, are more hi profile and make more public appearances/statements...So,they are under a much bigger scrutiny than underdogs like kalki,rahul khanna etc...

also,like someone said, joh hai naam wala, woh hi badnaam hai...the more ppl know abt u, the more viewpoints there are, and hence, the more chance of being hated/disliked/criticised.

You mean here or in actual , because they rooting soo much then why not their movies not so popular ? where are their intellectual audiences sitting at home criticzing those who are a success😆😆
Also, when movies that people here think are brainless do well does it mean those seeing it are non intellectual?
and movies that people say are brilliant do poorly is because those not seeing it again are brainless and don't get good cinema.
Edited by wat_up - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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i am going to use shahrukh khan as an example seeing there is sooo many topics being made about him...i don't understand why there are negative comments made about him, in a quite positive topic...out of no where the stupid raisin thing comes up, his so-called affair with priyanka gets resurfaced and then people talk about him being gay...make up your mind is he bi or straight??? their are some that only do this because they beleive in exposing the truth and don't want to butlick celebrities, well good for you! but there are some here that actually like celebrities (not worship, like) so just because you don't like the particular celebrity and have this beleif that everyone should jump on the boat to be against that celebrity is unrealistic... please stop writing essays about all their negative qualities, because frankly u seem biased... i am not hardcore fan, so if he has done something bad then by all means critisis him, strangle him if you wish to...but when every topic about them is aimed to downgrade them, it get annoying...
Edited by choco786 - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: Da_BagarhBilla

The names i mention of celeb which get +ve words just for having low profile, are they not given chance to gain Success or Stardom like famous superstars?


Everybody gets chance at Box Office, Every Actor's movie is showcase to world all over, who is stopping them 2 go for publicity campaign, or do whatsoever to get big openings to their films?

I assume atleast a minimum budget of Rs.5-10 is more or less invested in any film. Money is invested in their films also. If they can't please larger audience then why other's who make big becomes the target of bias -ve response??

Those who make BIG y they shud be targeted more? Success n Fans can't be bought by Money, if they did get then it's their Charm n HardWork. Believe it or not.



billa, actors like Nassiruddin shah, chitrangadha singh, kalki dunt care abt publicity...they dunt care abt pleasing the masses. They are low profile by CHOICE and not by necessity. They chose the kind of roles they do (arty films) by choice...its not that they are made to do such roles because they are unsucessful...

the kind of movies chitrangadha and all do , they dunt want to cater to a larger audience. they have their own niche and are happy in it...not all actors have to have ATBB to prove their credibility...
what salman does is entertaining the majority...gr8 for him...
but what chitrangadha does is appealing to her own lil section of audience...

as long as they are meeting the expectations of their target audience, therz no need for kalki to do massy films or commercial films...just like salman or katrina dont need to do arty films...

people are cut out for different things, and are appreciated in those zones...
just that BECAUSE sallu and others cater to more people, their flaws are more prominent and so they are subjected to a harder form of scrutiny than the likes of chitrangadha,..so sallu has a bigger hate base than chitrangadha...sure...but he also has a bigger fanbase..because the audience he caters to is larger...

its all abt the LOVE: HATE proportionality in the given section of audience...

500: 100 is the same is 5:1...the former seems more because it has a greater magnitude...


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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: wat_up

You mean here or in actual , because they rooting soo much then why not their movies not so popular ? where are their intellectual audiences sitting at home criticzing those who are a success😆😆
Also, when movies that people here think are brainless do well does it mean those seeing it are non intellectual?
and movies that people say are brilliant do poorly is because those not seeing it again are brainless and don't get good cinema.


the thread says IF so i was refering to IF...

and FYI, success is not measured ONLY according to popularity...therz lots of other things like awards, recognition, respect which goes into it aswell...

Kamal hassan has the honour of having 5 national awards to his credit...rajnikanth has none but he has 1000 times more popularity and craze...whoz more successful??

u have two people, one earns more money but is uneducated (say Dirubhai Ambani), the other Has a PhD but is not exactly a billionare like the former(Say APJ abdul kalam)...whoz more successful? ...

answer is, both are, in their own way.

The definition of success changes from person to person...Someone with an ATBB is sucessful, but so is someone who wins a national award with a flop film...



Edited by smartie_pants - 13 years ago
Posted: 13 years ago
#18

Originally posted by: choco786

i am going to use shahrukh khan as an example seeing there is sooo many topics being made about him...i don't understand why there are negative comments made about him, in a quite positive topic...out of no where the stupid raisin thing comes up, his so-called affair with priyanka gets resurfaced and then people talk about him being gay...make up your mind is he bi or straight??? their are some that only do this because they beleive in exposing the truth and don't want to butlick celebrities, well good for you! but there are some here that actually like celebrities (not worship, like) so just because you don't like the particular celebrity and have this beleif that everyone should jump on the boat to be against that celebrity is unrealistic... please stop writing essays about all their negative qualities, because frankly u seem biased... i am not hardcore fan, so it is ok to point out some negative qualities of fans...but when every topic about them is aimed to downgrade them, it get annoying...

I agree with you. But someone as pointed out that they are constantly shoved down their throats thats why. But the actor who gets it worse is Salman Khan even when the article is positive. His cases and etc are brought in. How do you thing it makes us who just wanna enjoy his movies and like what hes doing. We are made to be guilty on liking him. we never ask people to like him or praise him when he has done good things through his charity (people mock that intention too).
with SRK its only recently and that with his link up on Prinyanka that people are saying things. The raisin thing well that came through a SRK supporter themselves. who likes him but criticizes him too. Just like Kareena supporters they will like her but criticize her too to show that they can be unbiased etc.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: smartie_pants



billa, actors like Nassiruddin shah, chitrangadha singh, kalki dunt care abt publicity...they dunt care abt pleasing the masses. They are low profile by CHOICE and not by necessity. They chose the kind of roles they do (arty films) by choice...its not that they are made to do such roles because they are unsucessful...

the kind of movies chitrangadha and all do , they dunt want to cater to a larger audience. they have their own niche and are happy in it...not all actors have to have ATBB to prove their credibility...
what salman does is entertaining the majority...gr8 for him...
but what chitrangadha does is appealing to her own lil section of audience...

as long as they are meeting the expectations of their target audience, therz no need for kalki to do massy films or commercial films...just like salman or katrina dont need to do arty films...

people are cut out for different things, and are appreciated in those zones...
just that BECAUSE sallu and others cater to more people, their flaws are more prominent and so they are subjected to a harder form of scrutiny than the likes of chitrangadha,..so sallu has a bigger hate base than chitrangadha...sure...but he also has a bigger fanbase..because the audience he caters to is larger...

its all abt the LOVE: HATE proportionality in the given section of audience...

500: 100 is the same is 5:1...the former seems more because it has a greater magnitude...



Films which Actors chose to do is their choice, whether it is Art film or commercial Film, Naseer did try 2 became hero in lead role in commercial film in films like Hero Hiralal. Film was a disaster, now who's fault is this? Ppl accepted him in character roles, some commercial, some art films, rated as 1 of the Best Actor, it's his achievement what ever he can.

Now if some stars gain more success, how hate aim targets at them? y so ?

I m not comparing his movies collection with superstar's movie collection. i am just stating y if some star is more successful than he is at larger hate treatment??

Vidya Balan is not ART FILM Actress, nor she do art films. She has done commercial films. Y so much praise for her? Always with Bias statements?

i am asking y in this forum in particular members intentionally pass bias comments?
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Kya yaar, I came to this thread expecting some good old fashioned dhishum dhishum between fanbases. Instead, I see calm and well thought out posts. Title se masala film aur asal mein art film. Yeh achchi baat nahi hain.

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