What makes a movie gay?

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What makes a movie gay?

Vinay Chandran | Sunday, August 21, 2011



I once got into a heated argument over a simple question: What makes a gay film good? The debate exploded when someone mentioned Dostana as a potential good gay film. "Oh please," said one person, "It's the oldest trick in a filmmaker's manual — get a straight actor playing a straight hero to pretend he's gay. It's exploitative comedy." Another said that the stereotype of the gay couple, one effeminate and the other macho, gives youngsters the wrong idea about gay relationships. "But you can use the scene where the mother accepts her pretend-gay son's sexuality to get families to talk," said a third. The most violent argument was: "None of the leads are gay! This is not a gay film! Why do we need to argue about this?"

These are reminders of how much ground mainstream Indian cinema has yet to cover. Will new 'gay' themed films or films with gay characters — those which aren't pretending to be gay for comic effect — change the way movies get made? If we recognise that audiences are mature, why do stereotypes still populate our screens? Should we consider that any representation is good as long as it gets people to talk?

I believe that no matter how many gay-themed films get made — regardless of how filmmakers target gay audiences — they will still be subject to interpretations.

Earlier, when gay audiences found absolutely no representation in cinema, we resorted to reimagining the film by looking for homoerotic subtext. For instance, a close friendship between the hero and his friend would mean something different for us. Sometimes for gay men, an entire romantic scene between the leads will get re-imagined in our minds. With gay characters in mainstream cinema, the search for subtext has probably slowed down, but not ended.

Filmmakers generally shy away from gay leads in mainstream films. The marketing of Philadelphia and Brokeback Mountain as non-gay films goes to show how much producers fear the 'gay' label. Films with gay leads are still believed to be a distributor's nightmare. This homophobia is, unfortunately, still prevalent both in the industry and among audiences. Despite their successes at film festivals around the world, serious films like Tom Ford's A Single Man and Lisa Cholodenko's The Kids Are All Right didn't really see the kind of box office success they deserved.

Filmmakers rake in the big bucks when they show a heterosexual hero don a dress and act effeminate for comic relief. The exploitation of such stereotypes ignores two things: first, that it insults effeminate members of a community that have struggled with years of bullying; and second, that the queer community is in reality far more diverse and deserves the kind of representation that will help increase acknowledgment and acceptance.

Eventually, all representation of gay characters (however offensive) will reach the living rooms of the average middle class household. In a country where any conversation around sex is still hesitant, guiding audiences to talk affirmatively about gay rights is a huge responsibility for filmmakers and one they might have to seriously consider.

— Vinay Chandran is executive director of Swabhava Trust, an NGO that works with LGBT populations

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Posted: 14 years ago
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Nice article

While people have become more aware of homosexuality, it still is difficult for a lot of them to accept. Filmmakers need films that can make money at the box office and as such cater towards the audience's views. Dostana, while a great movie in my opinion, was a a bit of a cop out for a director who wanted to incorporate homosexuality in a Bollywood film. How would the audience be offended since the two guys really are straight in the movie the entire time? If it was the reverse, it most likely would not have done so great

The last paragraph really sums it all though...sexual matters are still taboo topics (hehe I never got the sex talk from my parents). It will take a long time for Indian audiences to be more accustomed to sex and longer so for homosexuality to be accepted well onscreen...I would think by the time the younger generation ages on that the audience will be more accepting
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I completely agree with you koolchick!(:

And the last paragraph on this article really does sum it all up. Where any talks about sex is still hesitant...gays and gay rights and all that is further down the future. Homosexuality is considered a taboo subject...its hardly discussed openly at homes, and that's a fact. I think its wealthier members of society, where little taboo surrounds it. But i think its getting better...

I had to write a paper on homosexuality in India a long time a go for an assignment and i remember talking about when Deepa Mehta's movie, Fire, was released. There was nationwide controversy across India. Though, i was little then...i still remember a few things like people burning down cinemas and asking the government to have it banned. Eventually it was banned in India, showing quite clearly that it was extremely dangerous and hard to try and overturn the country's traditional values.

That just makes me think...in this day, would it still be like that?
If a movie today was out as a "commercial" film and was something that wasn't a cop out like Dostana(though, a good movie i think) would it work?
Or would it be banned like "Fire"?...Probably would huh?. . .
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Posted: 14 years ago
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How can a film be a gay or a lesbian? Indian Film audience are still not very comfortable with homosexuality.Even younger generations will prefer a romance between male-female over male-male.So it will be risky for a filmmaker to make a movie featuring gay romance.Maybe with time people will accept it.But at this moment making a gay film is risky.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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What makes a movie gay?

^ K-Jo & gong 😆

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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: fly2me



That just makes me think...in this day, would it still be like that?
If a movie today was out as a "commercial" film and was something that wasn't a cop out like Dostana(though, a good movie i think) would it work?
Or would it be banned like "Fire"?...Probably would huh?. . .



I totally missed this😆

I think it would be banned in some places but not everywhere...I feel that there's more awareness to this issue now than there was when Fire came out...
but most likely it wouldn't be some sort of commercial blockbuster unless if it was really really good

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Posted: 14 years ago
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mogili i was also gonna say K jo movies
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Originally posted by: koolchick



I totally missed this😆

I think it would be banned in some places but not everywhere...I feel that there's more awareness to this issue now than there was when Fire came out...
but most likely it wouldn't be some sort of commercial blockbuster unless if it was really really good


i forgot about this topic too!😆

Yeah, i agree. Its way better now than when Fire came out. I just think its saddd and it should be accepted by all.

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