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Posted: 14 years ago
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Hell NO!

Let's not kid ourselves...he's not doing to give up his career and fame to confess and take the punishments of his crimes...very FEW ppl would...is he right...not in a million years, but he ain't gonna do the morally right thing any time soon!
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: desigal90

I'm still not sure if running over somebody when you're drunk can be considered murder, or an accident.

I'd put it more under an accident, but it was wrong regardless. He should have owned up to his mistake rather than blaming his driver.



It is indeed an accident if one owns up to it but becomes a crime when one runs away and tries to deny the whole thing...

See the difference??

Or may be you should ask the family of the one who was killed...
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Posted: 14 years ago
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That's true, its killing nonetheless.
I just think murder is normally intentional, accidents unintentional
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Posted: 14 years ago
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^^ Desu this type of muder is correctly called as "Manslaughter", read this...

Manslaughter is a legal term for the killing of a human being, in a manner considered by law as less culpable than murder. The distinction between murder and manslaughter is said to have first been made by the Ancient Athenian lawmaker Dracon in the 7th century BCE.

The law generally differentiates between levels of criminal culpability based on the mens rea, or state of mind. This is particularly true within the law of homicide, where murder requires either the intent to kill – a state of mind called malice, or malice aforethought – or the knowledge that one's actions are likely to result in death; manslaughter, on the other hand, requires a lack of any prior intention to kill or create a deadly situation.

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Posted: 14 years ago
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The accident may have been unintentional...But the denial and running away from it is indeed intentional and not only does it show a disrespect towards the ones who got killed but also it shows utter contempt for the law...Now its not just one crime but two...
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: cricketfan1



It is indeed an accident if one owns up to it but becomes a crime when one runs away and tries to deny the whole thing...

See the difference??

Or may be you should ask the family of the one who was killed...


exactly! I think you still get charged for manslaughter though...I think in the US depending on the "intensity" of the crime it can for sure go up to 15 years...not sure not much in India...any lawyers here?!

But I thinking normal let alone big stars don't wanna go to prison so it's easy to run!
I'm def not saying it's okay what he did, but I can see why he chose to run away! Oh well, he needs to answer his conscience and I hope he repents before he meets his maker!
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Posted: 14 years ago
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the first reaction of 90 percent of the people who are involved in an accident is to run away..you get scared u know...i am not condoning what he did..but maybe that mistake he made changed his life...he repented and turned to charity as a way of atonement..
u can't deny that the scale at which he does charity on the basis of his starpower is incomparable..maybe at heart he is not a murderer..sometimes we make mistakes we can't undo..God will serve justice to everyone..God should be the one to judge him..he hasn't received much happiness in his personal life u know..he loves kids but doesn't have any..justice and punishment can be served in many ways than just being imprisoned for 15 years...if he was in prison he wouldn't be extending his helping hand to so many people and he wouldn't be HUMAN just another criminal serving time in prison unable to help humanity in anyway..
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: prernade

the first reaction of 90 percent of the people who are involved in an accident is to run away..you get scared u know...i am not condoning what he did..but maybe that mistake he made changed his life...he repented and turned to charity as a way of atonement..
u can't deny that the scale at which he does charity on the basis of his starpower is incomparable..maybe at heart he is not a murderer..sometimes we make mistakes we can't undo..God will serve justice to everyone..God should be the one to judge him..he hasn't received much happiness in his personal life u know..he loves kids but doesn't have any..justice and punishment can be served in many ways than just being imprisoned for 15 years...if he was in prison he wouldn't be extending his helping hand to so many people and he wouldn't be HUMAN just another criminal serving time in prison unable to help humanity in anyway..


okay, but I don't understand why he doesn't just say I did it and I'll take whatever punishment the families of those who killed see fit...I know he's guilty and hence all the charity work, but if I'm not mistaken didn't he say the court will decide if he's wrong or not...what?! So doesn't know if he's wrong or not?!
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: prernade

the first reaction of 90 percent of the people who are involved in an accident is to run away..you get scared u know...i am not condoning what he did..but maybe that mistake he made changed his life...he repented and turned to charity as a way of atonement..
u can't deny that the scale at which he does charity on the basis of his starpower is incomparable..maybe at heart he is not a murderer..sometimes we make mistakes we can't undo..God will serve justice to everyone..God should be the one to judge him..he hasn't received much happiness in his personal life u know..he loves kids but doesn't have any..justice and punishment can be served in many ways than just being imprisoned for 15 years...if he was in prison he wouldn't be extending his helping hand to so many people and he wouldn't be HUMAN just another criminal serving time in prison unable to help humanity in anyway..



I don't know where you pulled the 90% figure from, but even if it were true, it is still wrong.

Charity cannot obliterate crimes, the fact is that he was driving under the influence of alcohol, which is an offence in itself, needless to say that his irresponsible actions led to the death of one individual, and injury to several others, which makes him culpable. It's a clear case of of hit and run, which is a crime. If he really wanted to help, he should've taken them to the hospital, or called the ambulance, and owned up to the police, instead of running away like a coward.

LOL, you make it sound like Salman has endured extreme hardships throughout his life, be under no delusion, he lives the life that the average Indian can only dream of.

So we should deny justice to victims and let criminals off the hook simply cause they help others?.. you can't say that God will provide justice in the end, then why not just scrap the whole legal system and just wait till death?... there are many dodgy people in India, who in the name of "service to humanity", take advantage of others due to their status.

Ofcourse, all these poor excuses does not exonerate Salman.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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I think it's exponentially irresponsible and dangerous to drink and drive. It's pathetic how people drink under the influence. I was once on the highway when a drunk guy was driving in the opposite direction, speeding that too. Thankfully no one died because they immediately closed the highway but I cant imagine what would have happened if they hadn't.

Point is, if you're drinking, then dont drive. You have no excuses.

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