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ladygaga

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Posted: 14 years ago

#81

Originally posted by: PandorasBox
while it may be true that males and females population are 50-50, I suspect viewership is skewed towards males in India. How else would you explain all the male-centric movies doing well and the lack of chick flicks. The thing is, it is generally the males who have money in India (I'm talking about all of India not just the cities) Males are given more freedom whereas in some rural parts, girls aren't even allowed to go to the movies unless accompanied by their husband or relative. Guess who gets to choose the movie?- the males. I believe it's the same in Pakistan and other south asian countries. This is also why saas-bahu serials do so well because the women stay home and watch tv. In the west it's a much different country as girls have to freedom and money to watch movies.

edit to add: I like Kat in songs too, other than that there's nothing spectacular about her. My gora friend didn't think she was so extraordinary and just average-looking.

Family audience is one of the largest audience for our bollywood movies.. that is why movies with family friendly content work the most in bollywood... bollywood is one of the biggest attraction around the world.. coz a lot of people say that you can watch bollywood movies with your whole family... and a family consists of both male and female members.. i don't think only men go to watch movies all alone... in fact a lot of single and married men take their wives and girlfriends to watch movies.. infact a lot of chicks.. drag their bfs to watch chick flicks.. and guys have to go forcibly.. even in rural areas.. people go and watch movies with their family... desi people usually go on outings with a large group of family.. or extended family to enjoy movies... So i dunno from where you are getting this fact that women don't watch movies.. And are you kidding me with your notion that chick flicks don't work in bolly?? SRK has made his whole career out of working in chick flicks... KJO.. chopras have established themsevles by making chick flicks.. so many of our bolly actresses... like Kajol... rani.. preity have worked in many chick flicks.. yes there were popular male celebs in those movies too ... but females had equally imp roles.. coz in a chick flick or a romantic movie.. both males and females have equal roles.. and footage.. guys cannot romance with themselves in a romantic movie..

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_notinuse_

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Posted: 14 years ago

#82

Originally posted by: ladygaga

Family audience is one of the largest audience for our bollywood movies.. that is why movies with family friendly content work the most in bollywood... bollywood is one of the biggest attraction around the world.. coz a lot of people say that you can watch bollywood movies with your whole family... and a family consists of both male and female members.. i don't think only men go to watch movies all alone... in fact a lot of single and married men take their wives and girlfriends to watch movies.. infact a lot of chicks.. drag their bfs to watch chick flicks.. and guys have to go forcibly.. even in rural areas.. people go and watch movies with their family... desi people usually go on outings with a large group of family.. or extended family to enjoy movies... So i dunno from where you are getting this fact that women don't watch movies.. And are you kidding me with your notion that chick flicks don't work in bolly?? SRK has made his whole career out of working in chick flicks... KJO.. chopras have established themsevles by making chick flicks.. so many of our bolly actresses... like Kajol... rani.. preity have worked in many chick flicks.. yes there were popular male celebs in those movies too ... but females had equally imp roles.. coz in a chick flick or a romantic movie.. both males and females have equal roles.. and footage.. guys cannot romance with themselves in a romantic movie..

yes but usually females are the more submissive ones and will let the males take their pick. Oh i agree that many girls drag their bfs/husbands but for the most part i'd say that it's the males that have more say. And as for family oriented, that's not the case anymore. How else would you explain No entry, Housefull, Akshay starrers that glorify cheating in a humurous way? BW industry is much more male-centric than HW because there's less of a female audience.

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ladygaga

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Posted: 14 years ago

#83

^^ Sorry but i cannot just asume that every indian woman is submisive, weak.. and lets the hubby decide which movie the whole family is going to watch... India has one of the biggest middle class in the whole world.. and middle class women are perfectly capable of making their own decisions... and infact at the end they are the ones that end up making the most decisions regarding their family.. a lot the movies that you mentioned worked.. coz they comedies.. comedies are supposed to be stress busters.. and if comedies work.. then a lot of chick flicks also work.. men hate SRK like hell and can't stand his movies... but women have dragged their hubbies.. bfs so many times to watch his whiny movies like DDLJ.. KKHH.. why would a guy watch a cheesy movie like IHLS.. women drag men to watch such movies.. And even in rural areas.. i cannot asume that every women is opressed...and can't make decisions.. And if women are objectified then men are also objectified.. men like John.. SRK take their shirts off to please women.. and do item songs like Dard e disco... And watch thank you.. its tag line is If men can cheat then so can women... you cannot expect a comedy.. to be politically correct...And btw how many comedies are even working toady??? ALL Akki MOVIES are flops.. today a Women oriented NOKJ has worked better than all Akki comedies... How do you explain that??

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Posted: 14 years ago

#84

when did i say every woman is submissive? In general woman in the west are more independent of their male-couterpart than South Asian women. That's not to say every woman in India is that way. Even income wise, the top female actress earns 6 crores. While that may be a lot, the top male earns 55 cr per movie. Why the discrepency. Also if you compare ages of the top stars based on sex, you'd find a 20 years difference. I also find many Indian men likes romance (a little too much) that's why movies like DDLJ does so well. A lot of new immigrant guys are like fanatics for romance, it's almost creepy.

Let's not try to be political correct and say Indian women (overall) have reached the same level of freedom as their males. It's not the case even in North America. But the cinema is less male-dominated than Bollywood, that's for sure. In most movies in bollywood, the females are side characters and/or eyecandy. There are few movies where females have subtancial roles that do well. Hopefully it will change soon and these aging men past their primes with their harem of girls half their age wouldn't be all it takes to make a hit.

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Posted: 14 years ago

#85

oh as for NOKJ it was a national headlined story that gives people a sense of unity.

And Hard-e-Disco, pleeeease, one male item number against countless female raunchy ones, really says a lot.

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ladygaga

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Posted: 14 years ago

#86

Originally posted by: PandorasBox
when did i say every woman is submissive? In general woman in the west are more independent of their male-couterpart than South Asian women. That's not to say every woman in India is that way. Even income wise, the top female actress earns 6 crores. While that may be a lot, the top male earns 55 cr per movie. Why the discrepency. Also if you compare ages of the top stars based on sex, you'd find a 20 years difference. I also find many Indian men likes romance (a little too much) that's why movies like DDLJ does so well. A lot of new immigrant guys are like fanatics for romance, it's almost creepy.

Let's not try to be political correct and say Indian women (overall) have reached the same level of freedom as their males. It's not the case even in North America. But the cinema is less male-dominated than Bollywood, that's for sure. In most movies in bollywood, the females are side characters and/or eyecandy. There are few movies where females have subtancial roles that do well. Hopefully it will change soon and these aging men past their primes with their harem of girls half their age wouldn't be all it takes to make a hit.

Why do we end up comparing everything to west.. Sorry but i wouldn't like to asume that indian women don't get to decide.. which movie their family is going to watch... I will say this again.. family oriented movies work the best in bollywood.. and how can we asume that if families are watching comedies then its only men who are forcibly dragging their wives to watch those movies.. and wives are forced.. and they sulk in a corner and HAVE TO watch those movies..

And TRUST ME .. Desi men don't like romantic movies like DDLJ .. or KKHH.. why desi men.. men just hate chick flicks like these... but they are forced to watch them.. and yes i will give you this that men do like watching comedies... but they don't like watching Overtly romantic movies.. the KJO and YRF kind... Even movies like Band baaja barat... you wouldn't see many men going head over heels.. falling for those kinda movies.. Women usually drag their hubbies and bfs to such movies.. and guys often do complain as to why they have to put up with this crap...

And the diff between salaries exist even in HOLLYWOOD.. and even some of the most progressive countries still don't have women in popular sports..

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ladygaga

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Posted: 14 years ago

#87

Originally posted by: PandorasBox
oh as for NOKJ it was a national headlined story that gives people a sense of unity.

And Hard-e-Disco, pleeeease, one male item number against countless female raunchy ones, really says a lot.

There have been other issue based movies before.. some have worked and some haven't... you cannot just asume that NOKJ worked coz of that...

Why just dard-e-disco.. Salman khan.. has paraded around topless his whole life.. his whole life he has been objectifying himself to please women.. and some men also.. 😆 So you cannot just asume its just actresses who have to use their sex appeal.

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.khoobsurat.

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Posted: 14 years ago

#88

Its kind of sad how Imran khan is getting paid more than Katrina in their new film. That's just so weird. She is a huge star, and he hasn't even reached that status of being called a star...yet he gets paid more than Katrina. Weird.

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_notinuse_

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Posted: 14 years ago

#89

Originally posted by: ladygaga

Why do we end up comparing everything to west.. Sorry but i wouldn't like to asume that indian women don't get to decide.. which movie their family is going to watch... I will say this again.. family oriented movies work the best in bollywood.. and how can we asume that if families are watching comedies then its only men who are forcibly dragging their wives to watch those movies.. and wives are forced.. and they sulk in a corner and HAVE TO watch those movies..

And TRUST ME .. Desi men don't like romantic movies like DDLJ .. or KKHH.. why desi men.. men just hate chick flicks like these... but they are forced to watch them.. and yes i will give you this that men do like watching comedies... but they don't like watching Overtly romantic movies.. the KJO and YRF kind... Even movies like Band baaja barat... you wouldn't see many men going head over heels.. falling for those kinda movies.. Women usually drag their hubbies and bfs to such movies.. and guys often do complain as to why they have to put up with this crap...

And the diff between salaries exist even in HOLLYWOOD.. and even some of the most progressive countries still don't have women in popular sports..

I'm only comparing it with the west because that's what I'm familiar and have knowledge on. This isn't an issue of Indian women but women in general.

When resources are limited, it is usually the women who eat last. This is the case in many african countries presently. I don't see it as submissive but more of a sacrifcing nature.

Similarly, there might be a lot of middle-class people in Indian but money is a limiting factor. When women have money they tend to spend it on their families whereas men would spend it out on themselves. It's just the difference in mentaly between two sexes. Also women have kids to tend to, and in general are more domestical than man. When there's extra money, men gets first dib.

Let's compare Hollywood films with Bollywood. Sex in the City, a movie about middle-aged women was a hit, has BW ever come up with such concepts (if they have it was most likely a flop) Twilight- even though I absolutely hated the movie- catered to young girls and was a mega-blockbuster.

I cannot just to be politically correct say that women as an audience carry the same weight as men in India. The movies itself speak against that. Though there are a few exceptions.

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Posted: 14 years ago

#90

Originally posted by: ladygaga

There have been other issue based movies before.. some have worked and some haven't... you cannot just asume that NOKJ worked coz of that...

Why just dard-e-disco.. Salman khan.. has paraded around topless his whole life.. his whole life he has been objectifying himself to please women.. and some men also.. 😆 So you cannot just asume its just actresses who have to use their sex appeal.

lol but for those men they have more than sex appeal whereas for women sex appeal is all they have. Once an actress matures, her sex appeal is gone and she is ejected from Bollywood or asked to play mother roles to the guys she starred with romantically in the past.

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