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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: _sidma_

having him compared abhishek who can't even open MOVIES strongly let alone give solo hits is well what can i say... and i am called a BLIND fan lmao!

hrithik's FLOP kites grossed just about 50 crore, abhishek's only solo hit guru grossed 40 crore in lifetime and that movie too opened to only 60% and worked on merits rather abhishek star power!

let's not even bring up hrithiks' blockbusters here and have an opinion that he's not a "SUPERSTAR" is lol worthy!

so if you are gonna call hrithik NOT a superstar, please bring some valid facts to back up your claim!

erm... Guru grossed around 24 mil. overall while Kites (greater budget) grossed around 2 mil. if BoxOffice Mojo is accurate or 14 mil. if IndiaTimes is accurate [USD]. Not saying that has to do with Abhi's star power, just correcting what you stated is factual.
As for why some may think Hrithik isn't a superstar, look at his career graph.
Out of the 15 movies where he has been the lead, how many have been hits? 6.

Out of those six, how many were multi-starrers? 2. And home-productions? 3.
IMO, although Hrithik certainly brings more appeal to his father's movies, thing is until he does movies outside of his comfort level and manages to bring that kind of success with other movies, he can't really be called a superstar. Take a look at someone who is a superstar, who has the kind of star value to bring people to the cinema - that would be SRK, not Aamir in my books - and, although he has the proclivity to work with the YRF/KJo camp, he's given hits with - well, it would be easier to point out the people he hasn't given hits with.
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Ew, I'm praising SRK *dies*
Edited by ShadowKisses - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago
#42
So tell me again why are the investor not ready to pay up for a Hritik movie?????
Also the term used is not for two movies but 3 movies...
There can not be a comparision between two...and I am not doing it. I am just sayign that to bring Hritik up you can not drag Abhi down. You might have loved Hritik in his dad's movies or in the movie with SRK...But as of now I would say Ranbir can pull more people in.
Hritik and Abhi's acting style is very different. So appreciated them for their abilities and not compare. Hritik could not have done Guru and Abhi could not have Krish...
The only star power that drives public crazy is _ SRK not even Aamir...
I have ot say this even though I am not into Khans....
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Hritick Roshan IMO is a superstar. He was giving SRK a run for his money when he first arrived into the industry. And he still continues to give SRK a tough run with films like Krissh and Koi Mil Gaya ect.

And this is coming from a non Hritick fan and a super SRK fan. :P
Edited by lensahunte08 - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: ShadowKisses

erm... Guru grossed around 24 mil. overallwhile Kites (greater budget) grossed around 2 mil. if BoxOffice Mojo is accurate or 14 mil. if IndiaTimes is accurate [USD]. Not saying that has to do with Abhi's star power, just correcting what you stated is factual. As for why some may think Hrithik isn't a superstar, look at his career graph.

Out of the 15 movies where he hasbeen the lead, how many have been hits? 6.

Out of those six, how many were multi-starrers? 2. And home-productions? 3.
IMO, althoughHrithik certainly brings more appeal to his father's movies, thing is until he does movies outside of his comfort level and manages to bring that kind of success with other movies, he can't really be called a superstar.Take a look atsomeone who is a superstar, who has the kind of star value to bring people tothe cinema- that would be SRK, not Aamir in my books - and, although he has the proclivity to work with the YRF/KJo camp,he's given hits with - well, it would be easier to point out the people he hasn't given hits with.
...
Ew,I'm praising SRK *dies*


errr BOXOFFICEBOJO is for hollywood movies.. but quoting them, they only quote OVERSEAS grossing. not domestic! the best trade reports in bollywood are boxofficeindia, komal nahta, taran adarsh and vinod mehra?

like this

http://boxofficeindia.com/showProd.php?itemCat=214&catName=MjAwNw==

i don't need any correcting! i have been following box-office very closely!

home productions? i don't think that it any sort of excuse. it's HRITHIK's shoulders they were dependent on. they were SOLO starrers.

KNPH, KRRISH, KMG, JA are all solo starrers.

DHOOM 2 hrithik took every inch of credit possible from that movie! abhishek looked like a puppy dog next to him in the movie.

K3G in true sense is a multistarrer.

i think you missed the entire point. a SUPERSTAR's job is to ensure big initials as in opening to their movies, after MONDAY rest depends on the movie's content!

HRITHIK the SUPERSTAR never failed to OPEN his movies big. so what's the question on his stardom? go question his script sense or choice of films but be it any movie, hrithik has always been able to pull the crowds in the WEEKEND (that is the job of a superstar). hrithik's films have broken OPENING records many times in the past.

and btw did you just claim AAMIR is not a superstar? i would really love to know what you think a SUPERSTAR means as i am really intrigued. was i napping the last 5 years when aamir films were breaking opening/ overall records? the man did it simply cuz of the goodwill of ppl on his quality films!

akki is another example. this guy's movies are often horrible/ average, never gets any critical acclaim for his films but he ALWAYS manages to draw volume of crowds into the theater with his name alone! i wonder what you would call that?

and well SALLU is just SALLU!

there are ONLY 5 legimate superstars in bollywood now. you go and read ANY trade reports, they will say:

aamir, srk, hrithik, akki and sallu (IN THAT ORDER) .. rest of the bunch have a lot of catching up to do!

according to the KOMAL NAHTA reports, those 5 are responsible for 75% of bollywood revenues!

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Posted: 15 years ago
#45

Originally posted by: lovanika

So tell me again why are the investor not ready to pay up for a Hritik movie?????

Also the term used is not for two movies but 3 movies...
There can not be a comparision between two...and I am not doing it. I am just sayign that to bring Hritik up you can not drag Abhi down. You might have loved Hritik in his dad's movies or in the movie with SRK...But as of now I would say Ranbir can pull more people in.
Hritik and Abhi's acting style is very different. So appreciated them for their abilities and not compare. Hritik could not have done Guru and Abhi could not have Krish...
The only star power that drives public crazy is _ SRK not even Aamir...
I have ot say this even though I am not into Khans....


i swear stop giving out OPINIONS on a factual debate, srk drives the public crazy and aamir doesn't. ranbir pulls in more crowds than HRITHIK.

i suggest, you read the biggest trade experts of bollywood reports. the guys that actually KNOW what they are talking about! then we can continue on a healthy debate

read taran adarsh, boxofficeindia, komal nahta, ashok mehra reports if you want to talk about who drives who crazy!

cuz so far, it's just oppinions after opinions based on assumptions!

and once again? why are you bringing ACTING in? that's completely subjective and has nothing to do with star power!


Edited by _sidma_ - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago
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This was a report done by the trades people just before 3 idiots released!


Bollywood's 5-year report card brings to light that its five musketeers-Aamir Khan, Shah Rukh Khan, Akshay Kumar, Hrithik Roshan and Salman Khan-have together netted a business of approximately Rs 1,830 crore from the ticket windows alone. And, if you add the revenue from satellite, home-video and other mediums to this figure, you can easily see why these men are on top.

Trade analyst Komal Nahata says, "Despite these actors' ups and downs, Bollywood depends a lot on these five men because they have a fairly high success ratio. You have to go by aggregates; individual films may run or flop, but these men net good averages. Akshay leads the pack with his earnings by virtue of the fact that he has done the maximum number of films.''

However, when it comes to rating the five men, Nahata says, "Aamir and Shah Rukh are neck to neck at number 1 and Hrithik and Akshay share the number 2 spot. Salman currently occupies a solo place at number three because he hasn't had a spectacular release after Partner.''

Trade consultant Amod Mehra, however, disagrees, "Aamir is a clear number 1 because each of his films in the last five years has been different.'' Pointing out that Mangal Panday was the only flop in Aamir's bouquet of five; Mehra says that the actor's other four films-Rang De Basanti, Fanaa, Taare Zameen Par and Ghajini-made a killing at the box office.

"Shah Rukh is a close second, Hrithik is third, Akshay is fourth and Salman stands at the fifth position. However, a hit or two here and there and these positions could easily change,'' he adds.

Ashok Ahuja of Percept Picture Company feels Shah Rukh and Aamir are tied at number 1. "It was hard to choose between Ghajini and Rab Ne Bana Di Jodi. Both the films rocked. Hrithik

is number 2, Akshay is number 3 and Salman is at number 4. The kind of excitement generated by Three Idiots, My Name Is Khan and Kites is palpable even though their release dates are yet to be set; the euphoria associated with Aamir, Shah Rukh and Hrithik is very high,'' says Ahuja.

Says Prabhat Choudhury of marketing agency Spice that these five men, apart from films, have also taken over the endorsement world because of their high brand value. "Aamir leads the pack because he brings to the table qualities of a discerning thinking actor, who is very sincere and sensitive whereas Shah Rukh's strong point is that he is entertaining and charming,'' Choudhury said.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/mumbai/Bollywoods-five-musketeers/articleshow/4804922.cms



With 3 idiots, aamir just became unanimous king of indian box office.


and you really think KITES killed the star power of hrithik at that point? heck no!

these are the people that KNOW what they are talking about since it's their PROFESSION!☢️


Edited by _sidma_ - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: _sidma_

errr BOXOFFICEBOJO is for hollywood movies.. but quoting them, they only quote OVERSEAS grossing. not domestic! the best trade reports in bollywood are boxofficeindia, komal nahta, taran adarsh and vinod mehra?

like this

http://boxofficeindia.com/showProd.php?itemCat=214&catName=MjAwNw==

i don't need any correcting! i have been following box-office very closely!

home productions? i don't think that it any sort of excuse. it's HRITHIK's shoulders they were dependent on. they were SOLO starrers.

KNPH, KRRISH, KMG, JA are all solo starrers.

DHOOM 2 hrithik took every inch of credit possible from that movie! abhishek looked like a puppy dog next to him in the movie.

K3G in true sense is a multistarrer.

i think you missed the entire point. a SUPERSTAR's job is to ensure big initials as in opening to their movies, after MONDAY rest depends on the movie's content!

HRITHIK the SUPERSTAR never failed to OPEN his movies big. so what's the question on his stardom? go question his script sense or choice of films but be it any movie, hrithik has always been able to pull the crowds in the WEEKEND (that is the job of a superstar). hrithik's films have broken OPENING records many times in the past.

and btw did you just claim AAMIR is not a superstar? i would really love to know what you think a SUPERSTAR means as i am really intrigued. was i napping the last 5 years when aamir films were breaking opening/ overall records? the man did it simply cuz of the goodwill of ppl on his quality films!

akki is another example. this guy's movies are often horrible/ average, never gets any critical acclaim for his films but he ALWAYS manages to draw volume of crowds into the theater with his name alone! i wonder what you would call that?

and well SALLU is just SALLU!

there are ONLY 5 legimate superstars in bollywood now. you go and read ANY trade reports, they will say:

aamir, srk, hrithik, akki and sallu (IN THAT ORDER) .. rest of the bunch have a lot of catching up to do!

according to the KOMAL NAHTA reports, those 5 are responsible for 75% of bollywood revenues!

You're wrong. BOM also includes domestic as well as foreign 'lifetime' gross. Check for yourself: http://boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=kites.htm Plus, I don't consider Taran Adarsh to be much of a "credible" or best anything - regardless of whose movies it comes to.
Already adressed the home production point. As for D2, Dhoom 2 would have worked regardless of who acted as Aryan. Place John Abraham in that role, and he still would have walked away with the accolades as he did earlier in Dhoom. Dhoom has proven to be a very popular franchise amongst teenagers and can hardly be called the acid test for actors to prove their star value. Regardless of the fact that Hrithik was probably a tad better than most other actors in that movie, it doesn't mitigate that his star power had little to do with Dhoom2's success.
Moreover, isn't the defintion you listed above of superstar subjective?
Going by this --"SUPERSTAR's job is to ensure big initials as in opening to their movies, after MONDAY rest depends on the movie's content!" How then do you explain RNBDJ whose content isn't much to write home about? KANK's overseas success? Main Hoon Na? These movies certainly did not coast by on content.
As far as Aamir is concerned, the patronizing tone is rather unwarranted. If I misjudged that, apologies. Anyhow, I don't think Aamir - despite his better acting skills - has had the kind of star power SRK has almost always enjoyed. As I see it, he has never particularly been in that race for superstardom. Even Aamir's recent midas touch - which I think is largely a result of "e-light" bandwagoning - doesn't quite get there. For one, he just doesn't have that aura about him that SRK does. He is bankable sure, but even now, I would give SRK the edge. After Amitabh, it's really only been SRK as I see it.
LOL. You're brandishing trade "analysis" reports and names I'm only hearing now as though they are facts when there is a certain amount of subjectivity involved there, too. For instance, rating Akshay below Hrithik and others when he's had more hits in numbers at least and revenue, I would assume.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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oh sad, gr8 to know that the buyers are trusting the actresses
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Posted: 15 years ago
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AB baby must be sulking after the Raavan debacle. Paa must have shown him this article and he must have run to his wifey and said ' Baby look I have been compared with Hrithik. Finally I did it Baby. Arent you proud of me Baby ' 😆😆😆😆

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Posted: 15 years ago
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This is preposterous Hritik roshan is said to be in the same league as Abhishek! 😆 Well atleast rest of India doesn't think so, and thank god for that! And if Aamir is not a superstar and he is doing so well, then to hell with being a superstar! The guy is a genius he has made not being a superstar a Hot new trend! More power to Hritik and Aamir the real superstars in every sense!
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