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Posted: 16 years ago
great posts, plasticpolaroid, roshini, coco and pragaya...
well, as they say, duniyaa maqaafat-e-amal hai... you shall reap what you sow...!!
p.s. i want to see the full video too... if it is available, please do post it...
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Posted: 16 years ago
alot of members are acting like feminists and refusing to look at both sides of the pictures. if its easy to understand ash being a woman then one needs to step out of the comfort zone and try to understand vivek and his stance.
One doesnt come across alot of people in life who are willing to turn their whole lives upside down to make you happy. Im not saying she shouldve stayed unhappy with him and carried on the relationship because he was by her side when NOBODY was, im just saying that before dropping him she shouldve made the effort to ensure that he was holding no grudges against her and ending the relationship on a postive note rather than ending it admist rumors that she's dumping him for someone else.
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Posted: 16 years ago

Originally posted by: Enycedoll

alot of members are acting like feminists and refusing to look at both sides of the pictures. if its easy to understand ash being a woman then one needs to step out of the comfort zone and try to understand vivek and his stance.

One doesnt come across alot of people in life who are willing to turn their whole lives upside down to make you happy. Im not saying she shouldve stayed unhappy with him and carried on the relationship because he was by her side when NOBODY was, im just saying that before dropping him she shouldve made the effort to ensure that he was holding no grudges against her and ending the relationship on a postive note rather than ending it admist rumors that she's dumping him for someone else.

awww, Ency... take it from someone who knows... he still would've been sour about the whole thing considering he still would've made the same choices and with so many people against him, his career would've still taken a halt... men are just like that... what can i say, it's in their nature... and i'm happily married... i have nothing against men, lol... but you know, it's true...
even people who parted on amicable turns still are btitter sometimes... it's only human nature... and i completely understand their stance... (i'm giving a general example now, because i don't want to start another discussion).... but my problem is, people supporting salman despite OBVIOUS proofs of abuse but yeah, he's got a metal heart, so ash is of course the devil....
as for vivek, i feel bad for the guy... but if his intentions were really true (to stand up for ash because she was being abused), he would not be sucking up to the guy who abused her (salman)....!!
Edited by pksanam - 16 years ago
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Posted: 16 years ago

Originally posted by: ShadowKisses

The same articles have also said that Vivek left his fiance Gurpreet for Aishwarya. So, when he had absolutely no qualms about ditching Gurpreet for greener pastures, he hardly has any right to be angry when Aishwarya allegedly does the same. As far as I know, Aishwarya had broken up with Salman before she moved on to Vivek; ergo, it's not her responsibility to send Salman a memorandum when she has a new boyfriend.

as far as i can remember, articles said he left GUrpeet for Rani 😆 NOT aishwarya, aishwarya came later into the picture. there were reports that even his father wasnt too fond of gurpeet who was controlling (?) and she herself has said that "we had a lovely relationship", i dont think she would say anything close to that if she had been cheated on.
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Posted: 16 years ago
salman, uska kya kehna, lol....i think vivek's only sucking up to salman now because he wants his career back, hence the statement, 'i totally understand how salman felt, bcause im in the same situation'....hes far from being in the same situation...and salman fans are perhaps in denial...but i wouldnt like to believe that ash is the angel in the whole situation, because shes not....she wronged vivek just as salman wronged her....(maybe less lol)
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Posted: 16 years ago
hmmm... i won't exactly call that 'wrong vivek'.. because when you feel threatened for your life, it's only natural you would react this way... and i don't know how true that story about 'dumped vivek via sms' or was it without one...? either way, if she avoided his calls and never greeted him on his visits, then he should've gotten the hint.... just because someone stands up for you, you don't need to be their slave for the rest of your life...!
considering salman's connections, i can't say i blame her... even amit ji had to apologize to raj thackary over the most stupidest of reasons...
such is this industry... jis ki bhains, us ki laathi....!!
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Posted: 16 years ago

Originally posted by: Enycedoll

alot of members are acting like feminists and refusing to look at both sides of the pictures. if its easy to understand ash being a woman then one needs to step out of the comfort zone and try to understand vivek and his stance.

One doesnt come across alot of people in life who are willing to turn their whole lives upside down to make you happy. Im not saying she shouldve stayed unhappy with him and carried on the relationship because he was by her side when NOBODY was, im just saying that before dropping him she shouldve made the effort to ensure that he was holding no grudges against her and ending the relationship on a postive note rather than ending it admist rumors that she's dumping him for someone else.

Absolutely right, atleast Vivek deserved to know that Ash was no longer interested in him. A man whom she called a " wonderful wonderful friend " in koffee with karan and other interviews.
Its not a one night stand that we just move on without telling the other party.
It was a 3 year old relationship with a man who stood by her at the cost of his entire career and his intention was very clear all through that he loved the woman like anything.
She need not tell him that she has moved on to Abhishek but she needed to give him closure and end the relationship on a positive note. If not anything else Vivek deserved this much. Thats giving respect to the man whom you had a relationship with.
Ash admitting to the relationship or not holds no water here because everyone and their father knew that Vivek and she were together. Its a very convenient excuse to give " oh I never admitted that he is my bf. " 😆
As for Vivek leaving Gurpreet without telling her, well if Vivek did it that doesnot mean Ash should do the same. She is noone to give tit for tat.
And she cannot even claim that Vivek was abusive and that she was scared to tell him.
Yeah he behaved cocky when she was with him, but thats also no excuse not to tell him that she is no longer interested in continuing any kind of relationship or even friendship with him.
If Vivek not telling Gurpreet is wrong, Ash not telling Vivek is equally wrong. And since you guys gave example of Gurpreet and said it was Vivek's karma, so you all do believe it is wrong.
But I guess its double standards when it comes to Ash and when it comes to Vivek because she is a woman and he is man. Its very easy for a woman to get away with all these things I guess.
And if Abhi does leave Ash for another woman without telling her , God forbid , then lets all of us then say that it was Ash's karma. No double standards and no bashing Abhishek then.
We are noone to judge karma over here, its only God who can do that.
Edited by Greenbear - 16 years ago
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Posted: 16 years ago

Originally posted by: Enycedoll

alot of members are acting like feminists and refusing to look at both sides of the pictures. if its easy to understand ash being a woman then one needs to step out of the comfort zone and try to understand vivek and his stance.

One doesnt come across alot of people in life who are willing to turn their whole lives upside down to make you happy. Im not saying she shouldve stayed unhappy with him and carried on the relationship because he was by her side when NOBODY was, im just saying that before dropping him she shouldve made the effort to ensure that he was holding no grudges against her and ending the relationship on a postive note rather than ending it admist rumors that she's dumping him for someone else.


I agree with the bolded part she should have ended it properly .
but maybe she was scared that he would go psycho on her like her previous BF :P
That being said she doesnt have to be in debt to him for anything - he did what he thought was right then and now he is doing what he feels is right by apologizing to Salman.

IMO, Being a feminist doesnt mean one is refusing to look at both sides - it means looking at both sides fairly and equally.
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Posted: 16 years ago

Originally posted by: pksanam

hmmm... i won't exactly call that 'wrong vivek'.. because when you feel threatened for your life, it's only natural you would react this way... and i don't know how true that story about 'dumped vivek via sms' or was it without one...? either way, if she avoided his calls and never greeted him on his visits, then he should've gotten the hint.... just because someone stands up for you, you don't need to be their slave for the rest of your life...!

considering salman's connections, i can't say i blame her... even amit ji had to apologize to raj thackary over the most stupidest of reasons...
such is this industry... jis ki bhains, us ki laathi....!!

oh cmon sanam...does one really catch on to such hints when in love? you look for like the most stupidest excuses to justify ur partners flaws or the lack of it... i have a friend who was snubbed by her bf, to me it was SO OBVIOUS, but to her...not so much......she had an excuse to justify his actions on every step.
and i said that shes not indebted to him for the rest of her life, but she shouldve made the effort to end it on good terms rather than leaving him with questions.
Edited by Enycedoll - 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: Enycedoll

salman, uska kya kehna, lol....i think vivek's only sucking up to salman now because he wants his career back, hence the statement, 'i totally understand how salman felt, bcause im in the same situation'....hes far from being in the same situation...and salman fans are perhaps in denial...but i wouldnt like to believe that ash is the angel in the whole situation, because shes not....she wronged vivek just as salman wronged her....(maybe less lol)



I agree with the initial parts of your post but not this one. Even if we are to believe that Aish just up and walked out on Vivek without letting him know, you still cannot compare that to being beaten up by a boyfriend. I think there is a world of difference between dumping someone insensitively and beating up a spouse.

If Vivek's only reason for standing up to Salman back then was Aishwarya then I don't think he would be apologising to Salman now. This is just my interpretation of the whole situation, but I think since Vivek and Aish broke up while he was going through a lull in his career, it became easy for him to make the press conference the major reason for his professional downfall. That way he could shift the entire responsibility to Aish. Its much easier to blame someone else than accept your own responsibility.

And once again how do we know exactly how Vivek and Aishwarya's relationship ended.

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