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Posted: 17 years ago
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But here's the ironica part Aaliya. The big banners are the ones that gave her the same kinda teeny bopper hyper roles. K3G, MDK, Yaadein, Mpkdh. All from teh biggest of banners. Its only when seh went out and tried other cinema that ppl saw her talent.
Yuva, Omkara, Chameli, Refugee, Asoka. None were from big banners, but competent directors with great scripts.
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Posted: 17 years ago
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Originally posted by: desigal90

We must not be biased.

I rest my case. 😛
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Posted: 17 years ago
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Originally posted by: desigal90

And also, why do people keep saying kareen is overrated coz of JWM? Yes, it may have been ehr ONLY solo hit, but it was pending for a while. She deserved that hit because countless times she had proved her acting talent, only to have the film do badly. How was that her fault?

She started leagues ahead of Deepika with an unconventional role like Refugee, and she dubbed her own lines. Then she continued doing strong roles like Asoka, Chameli, Yuva, Dev, Omkara, and finally JWM. I dont understand why ppl make it seem like she was overacting for the past 7 years of her career, when in truth that period lasted from last 2001 till 2003. From K3G till mpdkh. That's it. What about all the other movies she did? Or do ppl just put em aside just to bash her?

Why do people brand Deepika as overrated when she just acted in 2 films till now. How can one compare her to an actor who is in the industry for past 8 years?
Imtiaz Ali actually means the same. He says that it is easy to work with a seasonal actor but rather a challenge to work with a newcomer. There is nothing more to it.
The answer to all the questions is just simple, one bashes the ones they dislike and accepts the ones they like. Every fan is biased. 😉
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Posted: 17 years ago
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Originally posted by: desigal90

But here's the ironica part Aaliya. The big banners are the ones that gave her the same kinda teeny bopper hyper roles. K3G, MDK, Yaadein, Mpkdh. All from teh biggest of banners. Its only when seh went out and tried other cinema that ppl saw her talent.

Yuva, Omkara, Chameli, Refugee, Asoka. None were from big banners, but competent directors with great scripts.

That's also very true😊 But with Kareena, the filmakers still showed faith in her. Maybe it was because she's a Kapoor. But even then, your name alone cannot give you a successful career. It can give you projects but at the end of the day it's talent that matters. And Kareena does have plenty of it. You mentioned Yuva, Refugee and Asoka. they were also good films with sincere performances by Kareena. Although the films didn't really do well at the box office, she still did justice to her roles. I just hope she doesn't do another MPKDH or 36 China Town. She needs to build on what JWM gave her.
@ Maya_M: you again hit the nail on the head by saying that all fans are biased. That is true. We all are biased when it comes to our favs....human nature I guess.
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Posted: 17 years ago
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Originally posted by: Ektas_Angel

very well said about one person loves a actor and another think shes over hyped i think kareena is over hyped as good as she is because i do like watching her do you guys not remeber karenna old films because of one solo hit that how long it took to get here..now deepika atleast does not overact like i remeber main reason why kareenas films did not always well at the start..deepika is watchable and i liked her in her first two movies soo far for me a film is so much more than just one actor as long as they play their part well is main thing is which deepika has done...
Imitaz ali probably does like kareena just like every other directors like actors that do films that do well for them ...they develop a relationship main thing is he cast deepika because she suited that role l does not mean kareena could not do it though like maya you said it could just be he did not want to over expose the already exposed constantly (Even in golmaal now they refer to that tatoo that its pathetic)

Thanks for your POV. Very rational😊. Imtiaz Ali is a fabulous director and his story telling is the winning factor. Most times I feel that it is directors who present actors in a certain way. Some click and some flip.
I like the fact that Imtiaz Ali against all odds went with his choice. He took the risk of giving a full fledged role to a newcomer. In the industry where nepotism rules and everybody sticks to their camps and favorites, Imtiaz is refreshing who stuck to his choice. I am eagerly waiting for the film.
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Posted: 17 years ago
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The reason I say Deepika is overrated is because she did ONE movie, in which she didnt even dub her own lines, and all of a sudden she's being hailed as numero uno or in the race for numero uni with the likes of kareena and Aishwarya. She was even nominated for best actress in the filmfare awards for OSO. Now do you see what i mean by overrated?
In the second film, she didnt get one decent review, and most ppl reported that her voice turned them off. Perhaps they were expecting the dialogue delivery she gave in OSO...but that wasnt her to begin with.
Then ppl say Kareena is overrated. They keep forgetting kareena worked 7 sevens years to get where she is today. And even now, the only movie they credit her with is JWM. Everyone thinks that she was overracting for the past 7 years of her career and miraculously stopped in JWM. That's my main concern here.
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Posted: 17 years ago
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Originally posted by: desigal90

Yup this was my interpretation, that he regrets signing her. Or not really regrets, but he finds her a challenge to work with. We must not be biased. Whether you like kareena or not, you cannot deny that she has a lot more experience than Deepika. So I dont think Imtiaz in any way is preferring Deepika over kareena in that sense. Infact, he out right said one of the reasons he chose her was to challenge HIMSELF. IF she was really that great of an actress, he would've said, " I found her to be great in OSO." Instead, he commented on her silence. He probably thought she suited hte character more because it didnt require as much as Geet did in JWM.

And yes, she is the flavor of the season so maybe it would be an interesting pairing.
However, the way he says, "If i had signed on kareena, she would've EASILY been able ot pull off the role," hints that that's what he feels. In once sentence, he praised kareena's talent, saying that this role would've been a piece of cake for her, and combined with his previous statement of deepika being a newcomer and signing her being a challenge, I presumed that he is having to do more work wiht her than he had to with kareena.
And also, why do people keep saying kareen is overrated coz of JWM? Yes, it may have been ehr ONLY solo hit, but it was pending for a while. She deserved that hit because countless times she had proved her acting talent, only to have the film do badly. How was that her fault?
She started leagues ahead of Deepika with an unconventional role like Refugee, and she dubbed her own lines. Then she continued doing strong roles like Asoka, Chameli, Yuva, Dev, Omkara, and finally JWM. I dont understand why ppl make it seem like she was overacting for the past 7 years of her career, when in truth that period lasted from last 2001 till 2003. From K3G till mpdkh. That's it. What about all the other movies she did? Or do ppl just put em aside just to bash her?

very well said...agreed with the whole post yar!
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Posted: 17 years ago
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For god sake plzz dont compare a newcomer with a 7 YEAR OLD experience actress..for Kareena that role would have been a piece of a cake but not for Deepika..she is new,young and i am sure she wants to do different kinds of roles... plz give this girl a break!
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Posted: 17 years ago
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Originally posted by: desigal90

The reason I say Deepika is overrated is because she did ONE movie, in which she didnt even dub her own lines, and all of a sudden she's being hailed as numero uno or in the race for numero uni with the likes of kareena and Aishwarya. She was even nominated for best actress in the filmfare awards for OSO. Now do you see what i mean by overrated?
In the second film, she didnt get one decent review, and most ppl reported that her voice turned them off. Perhaps they were expecting the dialogue delivery she gave in OSO...but that wasnt her to begin with.
Then ppl say Kareena is overrated. They keep forgetting kareena worked 7 sevens years to get where she is today. And even now, the only movie they credit her with is JWM. Everyone thinks that she was overracting for the past 7 years of her career and miraculously stopped in JWM. That's my main concern here.

As far as I know Deepika dubbed in her own voice. Farah Khan too confirmed it. So one cannot argue based on rumors. Now coming to just ONE movie and being touted as next star, didn't the same happen with Kareena in JWM? She sweeped all awards for best actor whereas Vidya's role in Bhool Bhulaiyya was overlooked. Vidya was far better in her role than Kareena and that is my POV.
And by the same logic, Kareena is way overrated for every director wanting to work with her now. As I said whether it is Deepika or Kareena, they are flavor of the season and getting appreciated.
As for Kareena making a fabulous debut then let us not get into how nepotism works in Bollywood. Agree that Kareena is pretty but film makers were queuing to give her a debut film not because she is just Kareena because she is a Kapoor. So Deepika is definitely lucky to have gotten OSO and such a smash hit.
Instead of misinterpreting Imtiaz's lines, I would give some more time to Deepika just like I have given to all other actors including Kareena who gave so many flops before JWM.I don't want to make this Kareena vs. Deepika thread because it is unfair to compare a 8 year old experienced actor with a newcomer.
I interpreted Imtiaz Ali's lines, the way he meant and I am happy that he stuck to his choice and didn't give into taking his favorite. Saif too tried to convince him but he took the risk with a newcomer and KUDOS to Imtiaz for that. Love his interview and love his choices. Waiting for Jai ( Saif) & Meera (Deepika).
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Posted: 17 years ago
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Before concluding let me make another point. Abhishek Bachchan was appreciated in refugee but then panned, and that too very badly for his next 9 films. It took a Yuva to prove that he is a good actor. Now why did he get so many chances to prove is another matter altogether and will make a long argument. The point is now everyone considers him a good actor. 😛
Time..time ki baat hai.
Coming back to actual topic, the header of this interview was 'Imtiaz took a risk by taking a newcomer' just like any other director. That's all to it.

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