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Myra's attitude of dissuading Mummy Kohli from working (doing cookery show & talk show) seems to reflect the general society's sentiments of how there is an age for everything. I don't think she's really concerned whether her mother is talented or not because she did not even give Sudha a chance to prove herself. Myra being a person who goes by the rule book thinks like any other individual that there is no point of point Mummy Kohli doing anything at this age & neither should she fall in love.. as it is, she is not educated or tech savy or smart like people of our generation. And also love is only limited to youngsters na. Haven't we all had such thoughts once in our life? I loved Abha's response. Live & let live. We forget a lot of times that our parents are humans too.. so what if they are old. There is no age to learn & teach.. its a life-long process. Rather, we should encourage our parents if they want to do something. If they are lonely & fall in love, there is nothing wrong. There is no age limit to be happy. Let them try out & then figure out for themselves that they are not cut out for it or that they don't want it. We should never take away one's liberty & right to make a choice.

Similar approach for parenting. One should not restrict or stop a kid from expressing their opinion. It is a delicate age as Kabir pointed out. If you beat or scream at your kid for lying, there's a possibility that they will commit another wrong but this time without letting you know. You need to be behind them & give them space to make that mistake & reflect. Then explain to them why their act was wrong & its possible repercussions.

Kabir's cool & calm demeanour has seriously on me over. Nice to see that Myra is slowly calming down & melting. I don't blame her. Its the Kabir effect.

Cheers,
Samridhi

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Posted: 8 years ago
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Thanx for making this post Sam, I'm a bit unwell and so din't watch the epi yet and couldn't give out my regular thread.

There's absolutely no age limit for either learning or being happy. I was fed up with Myra's one-directional mind that her mom can't do anything. It isn't that if a person lived his whole life in one way h can't/shouldn't change when he wishes to, change is the only constant in life and if Sudha decided to do something then as her family they should support her while still being behind her as a pillar to support if she ever falls back. Isn't this how a family should be!!

As for Aryan, he's mature way above his age and I believe he'll realise his wrongdoings soon.

I know Myra has started melting, she has toned down her anger for Kabir.
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Had a small discussion with Amulya a few days back about this. 😊

At that time, Myra views did have a kind of justifications since the Sudha is not much of a cook, if at all. But Myra considering her mom not good enough for anything is quite the opposite.

Sudha gets all the love from her daughters... but not the respect. Stay-at-home moms do face that. They may have all the expertise and qualification... but their choice of picking family over career apparently nullifies all that. Disappointing...
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Originally posted by: .bohemian.

Had a small discussion with Amulya a few days back about this. 😊

At that time, Myra views did have a kind of justifications since the Sudha is not much of a cook, if at all. But Myra considering her mom not good enough for anything is quite the opposite.

Sudha gets all the love from her daughters... but not the respect. Stay-at-home moms do face that. They may have all the expertise and qualification... but their choice of picking family over career apparently nullifies all that. Disappointing...


That is so true! As much as Myra's boss has a tendency to exaggerate, he did have a point when he said that its no easy feat to raise 3 daughters alone & that Mrs Kohli has done a good job. The thing is a lot of people think that stepping out of the house & going to work equates to facing the world & encountering difficulties which is part true but they often overlook the role the house maker plays in staying at home, & the difficulties in being at home & having a life revolving more around home. It can be equally frustrating & stifling.
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Exactly Sam.

It is the woman's choice if she wants to be a stay-at-home mom. Let's take the case of Mira Rajput. Perhaps it was a veiled attack at her husband's ex, perhaps not. But the way she was picked on for choosing to stay at home... the elitist tag, born with a silver spoon and all. As if a woman is supposed to feel guilty if she chooses her kids over her career. Or just too old school. Just as a career woman has a right to follow her dreams, a stay at home mom has a right to choose too. It does not make her any less of a woman.

About the show, Being a single mom is not easy. We have not been given an idea at what age the girls lost their dad... it was after he retired though. The fact that she brought up the girls single-hand is an achievement in itself.

I love the way the show's subtlety in shedding light on the issues. It about Aryan now... how he is stuck to his video games and barely into any sports. And always around grown-ups. True with most kids nowadays.
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Originally posted by: .bohemian.

Exactly Sam.

It is the woman's choice if she wants to be a stay-at-home mom. Let's take the case of Mira Rajput. Perhaps it was a veiled attack at her husband's ex, perhaps not. But the way she was picked on for choosing to stay at home... the elitist tag, born with a silver spoon and all. As if a woman is supposed to feel guilty if she chooses her kids over her career. Or just too old school. Just as a career woman has a right to follow her dreams, a stay at home mom has a right to choose too. It does not make her any less of a woman.

About the show, Being a single mom is not easy. We have not been given an idea at what age the girls lost their dad... it was after he retired though. The fact that she brought up the girls single-hand is an achievement in itself.

I love the way the show is subtlety shedding light on the issues. It about Aryan now... how he is stuck to his video games and barely into any sports. And always around grown-ups. True with most kids nowadays.


Regarding Mira, I bashed her too. I don't have an issue with her staying at home or making a dig at Kareena but I hate the way her statements were worded. She spoke in a slightly condescending way of women who go out to work almost immediately after having a child, not recognizing the privilege she has to be able to make that choice. A lot of women have to work because they support the household financially. She did sound very snobbish & elitist IMO.

Coming to the topic, yes it does boil down to choice. And everything is relative. Everyone faces their sets of difficulties & people should really live & let live. The modern world's become such a toxic place where everyone is expected to have the same opinion. I grew up in the 90s & I dare say it was more liberal back then because everyone was allowed to have their opinion & not one opinion.

Aryan is wiser than his years probably because he's constantly surrounded by such strong, nurturing women. I do feel bad for him though. He must feel lonely. I feel bad for kids nowadays who are stuck in front of the laptop all the time. As a kid, I hardly stayed at home. Those were the days! we used to be out all day. This show makes me very nostalgic. The makers have managed to strike a beautiful balance in making this show very light & simple & yet introspective.
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Sam, I agree with you in Mira's case, I was also the one who bashed her and it was actually very recent, maybe just a month ago, after reading that article the 1st thought that struck my mind was this girl is ignorant about the world, all mothers love their kids and it would be difficult for them to leave their toddlers at a day-care but they equally work with their husbands to support the households in having a bit better life-style.
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Umm. okay. I guess I am the only one who thinks her comments on being a stay at home mom did not warrant such a severe backlash. Her choice of words were immature... no doubt. But the blogs and "open letters" were quite bitter to paint all stay at home moms in the same brush. As a working mom myself, my view was 'Oh well, good for you. Enjoy your baby'. I don't feel the need to justify my choice. But a lot of working moms did and how! And at the cost of putting down stay-at home moms.

We had a discussion about this at the recent Book Club meet that includes a few stay at home moms. It was interesting to know their point of view. They are not a bunch of women with low self worth... living on their husband's earnings. Every woman has a choice.

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Originally posted by: AyeChavanni


Myra's attitude of dissuading Mummy Kohli from working (doing cookery show & talk show) seems to reflect the general society's sentiments of how there is an age for everything. I don't think she's really concerned whether her mother is talented or not because she did not even give Sudha a chance to prove herself. Myra being a person who goes by the rule book thinks like any other individual that there is no point of point Mummy Kohli doing anything at this age & neither should she fall in love.. as it is, she is not educated or tech savy or smart like people of our generation. And also love is only limited to youngsters na. Haven't we all had such thoughts once in our life? I loved Abha's response. Live & let live. We forget a lot of times that our parents are humans too.. so what if they are old. There is no age to learn & teach.. its a life-long process. Rather, we should encourage our parents if they want to do something. If they are lonely & fall in love, there is nothing wrong. There is no age limit to be happy. Let them try out & then figure out for themselves that they are not cut out for it or that they don't want it. We should never take away one's liberty & right to make a choice.

Similar approach for parenting. One should not restrict or stop a kid from expressing their opinion. It is a delicate age as Kabir pointed out. If you beat or scream at your kid for lying, there's a possibility that they will commit another wrong but this time without letting you know. You need to be behind them & give them space to make that mistake & reflect. Then explain to them why their act was wrong & its possible repercussions.

Kabir's cool & calm demeanour has seriously on me over. Nice to see that Myra is slowly calming down & melting. I don't blame her. Its the Kabir effect.

Cheers,
Samridhi



Samriddhi,

After reading your initial posts about the show, I started watching it but then I started preparing for an exam which means almost no TV time I am allowing myself. :-D

The only indulgence I allow are reading non study books (rare internet presence) and outdoor sports, (it is spring where I live). But all your posts make me want to catch an episode once in a while, but decided to stall it for a while and catch all of them after a month or so later at one go. :-D

Meanwhile, keep posting, reading your posts in fun too.

Love
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Originally posted by: .bohemian.

Umm. okay. I guess I am the only one who thinks her comments on being a stay at home mom did not warrant such a severe backlash. Her choice of words were immature... no doubt. But the blogs and "open letters" were quite bitter to paint all stay at home moms in the same brush. As a working mom myself, my view was 'Oh well, good for you. Enjoy your baby'. I don't feel the need to justify my choice. But a lot of working moms did and how! And at the cost of putting down stay-at home moms.

We had a discussion about this at the recent Book Club meet that includes a few stay at home moms. It was interesting to know their point of view. They are not a bunch of women with low self worth... living on their husband's earnings. Every woman has a choice.


I'll be a bit frank and confess that 2/3 years back when I was still in college I had this mindset that every girl who studies her ass off have to work otherwise its just a waste of talent, knowledge and hard-work. I was literally shocked when few of my friends confessed that they would prefer to stay-at-home after marriage as I've grown up watching my mom who's uber brilliant but couldn't pursue her dreams as I often kept unwell during my childhood, she's glad that she looked after me but I'm sad that she had to sacrifice for me. In these 2 years after my college, I slowly evolved and became more mature in a sense that now I know that anything which is of free will and gives satisfaction, happiness isn't wrong, in this case be it a working or non-working woman should solely be that person's decision.

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