Fallen Hero-Confused Voters! Lack of Spine+Brain.. - Page 3

Originally posted by: serenity2011

Let me first congratulate you, Mr.Darcy, on the win of ur lovely Lizzy.😉

As always, u've made great points.👏. jus for fun's sake, let me put 4ward sm questions which r bugging me:

1. if not helping mehak effectd amar's votes, thn being a woman it must also juhi's votes coz she kept quiet during every fight.

2.If sky is considerd a villian, thn y wasn't he in the last place?

3.y did juhi win in th first place? jus bcoz shez a soap queen?😲

PS: aren't dalits part of hindus? jus asking coz u seperatd thm as dalit voters and hindu voters.

Serenity...thanks a lot for some pretty well thought out questions.

As I see it, answers are:

1. If you want to analyze vote banks of these individuals, you have to go no further than IF itself. Here you will find that those who root for Amar one week, can, depending on situation and what they see on screen, adjust themselves to the side of Amar or Sid or Mahek...but you will HARDLY FIND a Juhi fan switching sides, come what may. They simply are a different lot. Please do not mix up between Mahek and Juhi. A Juhi fan sees Juhi as every thing a woman should be and Mahek as someone a woman shouldn't be. I am sure it sounds rough, but thats the way it is for a Juhi fan!😛

2. Till Wednesday, Sky indeed was in last place! (I had posted this thread of who stands where, which mods at that time trashed saying no more Spoiler threads). All that has happened is Amar's strategy disappointed many of those supporters who are not hard core supporters of his, but choose what they think is 'best of the lot'. Most switched en-mass to Sid's side, who was seen taking on Villain. Last straw for them was that 11.30 PM shots of Amar in his blanket blasting Sid as if he is the worst in planet whereas majority sees Sky deserving that honor. Sky has his own hard core base...lots of people voted for Mahek-Sid in last 2-3 days, Sky would be just marginally ahead of Amar, not by too much margin.

3. Juhi has a huge fan base. Tele serial followers and they do not get swayed by 'mod girl of today Mahek' or so called youth icons like Sid. Amar was the only real contender for Juhi...and once he shot himself in foot by aligning with Sky, Juhi had no competition really! I would imagine her to be ahead of Mahek by Hundreds of Thousands of Votes in the end. Mind you Mahek has only surged ahead because of Vote divide...Juhi is, where she is!

4. Ooops about the last part. It was only meant as an analogy...and even while putting it in point, I realised someone might point it out. Point simply is in India, Dalits and Muslims vote in one bloc and usually, it plays a huge role in eventual outcome!😛

Originally posted by: cruiser51

BossB...this...in a nutshell is the point I made.

I know for sure this guy was marginally leading on Wednesday...and just blew it up!

Indian audience can accept a hero joining a Villain's gang, only to bash him up in the end. Hero and Villain honeymooning together, is a strict no no for vast majority!😛

Originally posted by: BossB

For me, it wasn't about hero and villain honeymooning together since I never saw Amar as a hero or Sky as a villain. What riled me was utter lack of self-respect of this guy. Sky continued to humiliate him again and again while Sunny had destroyed his reputation. Yet this man was willing to forgive and forget everything and make peace with the gang.

When Shonali had made alleged that his 'niyat' was bad, he went hammer and tongs against her and made her cry, but when Sunny made the same allegations, he was apologetic. Clearly, he had no spine to take on the Sky gang and like a coward cozied up to them.

Shameless & utterly spineless guy..😡

A Hero, can not be seen to be shameless and spineless!😛 Thats the point!

Many gave him benefit of doubt that he will make a COMEBACK and spinelessness is nothing but Hero's strategy!

He blew it up in last 4 days...especially that night shot where his bile against Sid and Mahek disgusted all fence sitters who were coming to his side!😊

Originally posted by: cruiser51

Serenity...thanks a lot for some pretty well thought out questions.

As I see it, answers are:

1. If you want to analyze vote banks of these individuals, you have to go no further than IF itself. Here you will find that those who root for Amar one week, can, depending on situation and what they see on screen, adjust themselves to the side of Amar or Sid or Mahek...but you will HARDLY FIND a Juhi fan switching sides, come what may. They simply are a different lot. Please do not mix up between Mahek and Juhi. A Juhi fan sees Juhi as every thing a woman should be and Mahek as someone a woman shouldn't be. I am sure it sounds rough, but thats the way it is for a Juhi fan!😛

2. Till Wednesday, Sky indeed was in last place! (I had posted this thread of who stands where, which mods at that time trashed saying no more Spoiler threads). All that has happened is Amar's strategy disappointed many of those supporters who are not hard core supporters of his, but choose what they think is 'best of the lot'. Most switched en-mass to Sid's side, who was seen taking on Villain. Last straw for them was that 11.30 PM shots of Amar in his blanket blasting Sid as if he is the worst in planet whereas majority sees Sky deserving that honor. Sky has his own hard core base...lots of people voted for Mahek-Sid in last 2-3 days, Sky would be just marginally ahead of Amar, not by too much margin.

3. Juhi has a huge fan base. Tele serial followers and they do not get swayed by 'mod girl of today Mahek' or so called youth icons like Sid. Amar was the only real contender for Juhi...and once he shot himself in foot by aligning with Sky, Juhi had no competition really! I would imagine her to be ahead of Mahek by Hundreds of Thousands of Votes in the end. Mind you Mahek has only surged ahead because of Vote divide...Juhi is, where she is!

4. Ooops about the last part. It was only meant as an analogy...and even while putting it in point, I realised someone might point it out. Point simply is in India, Dalits and Muslims vote in one bloc and usually, it plays a huge role in eventual outcome!😛

agree with u
actually i was shocked to know that some Amar supporters have actaully voted for sid also which they admitted on hearing sid as winner in the morning (rumor.)
And yes Amar's fans are not like juhi's fans or Mahek fan's we are unbiased and would see wrong as wrong unlike other fans(nothing personal here but, thats the truth)
Amar fan's are as u analyzed has seen that he is the best among the rest .
but, i am only upset that he was not in top 3. he deserved to be 1 st runner up.
there was no way sid could match him in any way.
I am angry at the celebrities who r supporting sid .
why? let them give one particular reason why sid was a better choice among the rest?
is this what we want to represent India do we like this kind of people?
what is that one quality he has even sky was 100 times better then sid.

Originally posted by: cruiser51

A Hero, can not be seen to be shameless and spineless!😛 Thats the point!

Many gave him benefit of doubt that he will make a COMEBACK and spinelessness is nothing but Hero's strategy!

He blew it up in last 4 days...especially that night shot where his bile against Sid and Mahek disgusted all fence sitters who were coming to his side!😊

well this one I might not agree he disgusted when he said bad about Mahek and sid ?
actually ,what he said about them was absolutely correct he could have said more.
but, he should have said to them on their face which he didn't that was his mistake.
Mahek clearly insulted him when she said that its all about sach and how u stand for sach at that time he said something like everyone is playing his own game everyone is right and left.
he should have questioned them then and there.
she got the points in the argument and amar gave in just like that he should have stayed calm but, prove his point he always missed that he never thought he has to clear his points which is his biggest mistake.

Der could ne 2 scenarios.

First dat der were manipulation of votes nd Mahek was made d 1st runner up, coz 4 Amar d title wasn't as important as d money itself nd so it wouldn't matter 2 him if he's place 2nd or 3rd. But only problem is dat he was placed last nd dat hurts, so unlikely dat dat was d case.

Originally posted by: ssshhh

Der could ne 2 scenarios.

First dat der were manipulation of votes nd Mahek was made d 1st runner up, coz 4 Amar d title wasn't as important as d money itself nd so it wouldn't matter 2 him if he's place 2nd or 3rd. But only problem is dat he was placed last nd dat hurts, so unlikely dat dat was d case.

Second could be tht all those spoilers abt Juhi nd Amar leading were red-herrings thrown by d BB team 2 mislead. Always der was a leak b4hand abt d evicted housemates nd d suprise element would get mitigated nd BB didn't want dat during d finals. If noticed Amar didn't hv dat huge a fan following. It is usually d soap bahus tht rule the roost rahter thn d betas. Also I doubt tht wid his behaviour Amar gathered such a loyal fan following dat would spend money in voting for someone who himself did not show any signs of loyalty in d show.

Also his PR let him down nd didn't do his work well.

Actually in retrospect Amar's behaviour in d house was too low 2 be accepted by ppl.

Originally posted by: MrManagement

I have argued with people all season defending amar, but i will only say few things now.

First of all, Amar has a huge fan base, even on this forum. He leads on every poll. Secondly, Amar survived six evictions, that alone shows how strong fan base he has. Most of the contestants on the show couldn't barely survive one or two nominations. You pointed out that people won't spend any money on him, but he got to finals because lots of people voted for himand he didn't get a free ticket like some other contestants did.

I agree with Cruiser post to large extent, but that doesn't mean Amar fans will sit and see him keep on being targeted and bashed. Who made you the judge of behavior? After the finale results have been announced have you seen me bash any contestants. I have even posted many times congratulating juhi victory even though i hated her the most. There is way of sharing you opinion. I don't have a problem if you give opinion that I don't agree with but just be little less harsh. The show is over, give him a break.