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Posted: 7 years ago
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My approximated guess of how live voting works.


Explanation of Live voting
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The live voting provides the result in form of % of positive votes which is calculated as ((positive votes)/(positive votes+ negative votes))*100

Display functionality: The voting system requires you to check in, meaning system is aware of maximum number of votes which can be expected. Let's take it as 100. So when people keep on voting, the display should most probably is only displaying the number of positive votes only. Like suppose 65 people vote positively, means the % cannot be less than 65 in even worse case scenario. Suppose nearing the end or at end, there are less than 35 negative votes, meaning thereby that final % will go up(people checked in but didn't vote at all)
So there is faster movement near the end moment based on number of negative votes or "not cast" votes are accounted for. There can be different approximation algorithm to predict it within limit and is subject to network latency and queue clearing at server end.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Hina fans who probably didn't bother to check in and vote against Shilpa, helped Shilpa win so massively in today's poll. Poll is not based on absolute number of votes but it's a percentage. So Hina with higher number of absolute positive votes may lose in percentage terms to Shilpa with lower number of positive votes, depending upon how many negative votes were polled for each. For explanation please refer to my post of last week.

"Suppose if five persons check in for vikas and except one everyone votes for him, means in percentage terms he is 80%.. But suppose in case of Priyank ten people check in and only seven vote for him and three against, then he gets only 70%, even though he got more number of votes in absolute terms. This system is open to manipulations on so many level and that's why they didn't revel the exact calculation details"
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: lostloveforever

My approximated guess of how live voting works.


Explanation of Live voting
:
The live voting provides the result in form of % of positive votes which is calculated as ((positive votes)/(positive votes+ negative votes))*100

Display functionality: The voting system requires you to check in, meaning system is aware of maximum number of votes which can be expected. Let's take it as 100. So when people keep on voting, the display should most probably is only displaying the number of positive votes only. Like suppose 65 people vote positively, means the % cannot be less than 65 in even worse case scenario. Suppose nearing the end or at end, there are less than 35 negative votes, meaning thereby that final % will go up(people checked in but didn't vote at all)
So there is faster movement near the end moment based on number of negative votes or "not cast" votes are accounted for. There can be different approximation algorithm to predict it within limit and is subject to network latency and queue clearing at server end.



Wow well explained.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Not able to guess, coz many possible ways to implement it. Not clear about the checkin time itself, why do they need it and whether it affects vote percentage.
But, whatever it may be, it looks like they are doing trial run in BB, next versions will be used in their other shows. These votings are just a way to shift people to internet platform, and there by to earn more money. Basically, they are finding ways to earn more money.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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gupta get 71percent

but that was fake at that time

😆
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: Rithu0203

Not able to guess, coz many possible ways to implement it. Not clear about the checkin time itself, why do they need it and whether it affects vote percentage.

But, whatever it may be, it looks like they are doing trial run in BB, next versions will be used in their other shows. These votings are just a way to shift people to internet platform, and there by to earn more money. Basically, they are finding ways to earn more money.

Check in helps in giving you maximum number of total votes to be expected, it will not be used for calculating percentage, for that only positive and negative votes count. Total number at time of check in helps in projecting percentage as explained in the post.
Edited by lostloveforever - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: lostloveforever

My approximated guess of how live voting works.


Explanation of Live voting
:
The live voting provides the result in form of % of positive votes which is calculated as ((positive votes)/(positive votes+ negative votes))*100

Display functionality: The voting system requires you to check in, meaning system is aware of maximum number of votes which can be expected. Let's take it as 100. So when people keep on voting, the display should most probably is only displaying the number of positive votes only. Like suppose 65 people vote positively, means the % cannot be less than 65 in even worse case scenario. Suppose nearing the end or at end, there are less than 35 negative votes, meaning thereby that final % will go up(people checked in but didn't vote at all)
So there is faster movement near the end moment based on number of negative votes or "not cast" votes are accounted for. There can be different approximation algorithm to predict it within limit and is subject to network latency and queue clearing at server end.


but in that case 'No' votes and "not cast" votes would become a greater deciding factor rather than "yes' votes" 😕

for ex - out of 100 votes, lets say only 35 vote 'yes' for A, 5 vote 'no' for A, and 60 votes are "not cast".. then the final result would be 35 + 60 = 95 > 95%

while, in contrast, lets consider - out of 100 votes, 35 votes 'yes'' for A, 60 vote 'No' for A and 5 votes are 'not cast' then the percentage would be 35+5 = 40 > 40% only, even though 35 voted 'yes' in both the scenario...

so doesn't it make the 'no' and 'not cast' votes more important then the 'yes' votes? 😕

edit - changed 65 to 60 in second ex. 😳
Edited by NathuPyare - 7 years ago
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To me it's a sham...back when Vikas got a direct entry into semi-finale week n even now i just don't trust it...in fact i didn't trust it even during d Rising Star last season sab bakwaas hai lol...d whole purpose was to add to Hina's insecurities who was as it is questioning her chances of winning d show after Vikas ka secret task...dey just want her to take d briefcase n leave so dat dey get deir dream pair in top 2... Rocky ne bhi guess kar liya yeh n hence d advice ki don't go for d briefcase lol
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: NathuPyare


but in that case 'No' votes and "not cast" votes would become a greater deciding factor rather than "yes' votes" 😕

for ex - out of 100 votes, lets say only 35 vote 'yes' for A, 5 vote 'no' for A, and 60 votes are "not cast".. then the final result would be 35 + 60 = 95 > 95%

while, in contrast, lets consider - out of 100 votes, 35 votes 'yes'' for A, 65 vote 'No' for A and 5 votes are 'not cast' then the percentage would be 35+5 = 40 > 40% only, even though 35 voted 'yes' in both the scenario...

so doesn't it make the 'no' and 'not cast' votes more important then the 'yes' votes? 😕

For calculating percentage, number of positive and negative votes count and total number of check in users is used to project it on screen on a real time basis.
Case A : 35/(35+5) multiplied by 100.
Case B: 35/(35+65) multiplied by 100.

Hope it clarifies.
Edited by lostloveforever - 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: I_M_SultaN

gupta get 71percent

but that was fake at that time

😆



😆 😆 😆

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