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Posted: 11 years ago
#41
Lol..just because she voted for arman. tells you that arman is justified in abusing?
he is justified in passing those remarks

he is justified in passing those lecherous looks??


A rape victim is made to marry her rapist..so I am guessing by this logic..rapist is absolved of all crimes..isn't it..

Hail women butchering!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: SoPunk

So, I hope we have at least identified the people on the forum, who react OTT on issues & a abuse women's rights issue, which harms the women.

Thats why i call this OTT Forum😆. A 10 seconds preview is dissected to death and the original scene is completely different. 😉

And to everybody who does not know😉, What Elli did is what you call NOT keeping grudges. 😆

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Posted: 11 years ago
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That is an incorrect deduction. Just because Elli had seemed to forgive Armaan, it does not make him right during that incidence. He never was right in that matter, no matter how you spin it. Her voting for Armaan may show that she forgave him, but it means nothing about his behavior. He is still wrong and if he repeats it, he will be wrong again. None of the reactions on the forum were OTT because I cannot find a single reason to justify his behavior. Not a single one. Also Elli is someone who forgives people easily. For all you know, she might vote for Kamya tomorrow. Does that mean Kamya was right in bitching about her? No! It only means Elli had forgiven her.
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Posted: 11 years ago
#44

Originally posted by: enigmatic_zephy

Lol..just because she voted for arman. tells you that arman is justified in abusing?

he is justified in passing those remarks

he is justified in passing those lecherous looks??


A rape victim is made to marry her rapist..so I am guessing by this logic..rapist is absolved of all crimes..isn't it..

Hail women butchering!


Wrong premise; that's why this is different and incomparable to what you are saying. There was no compulsion, no peer pressure, nothing involved in today's voting. It was a closed door voting and she had complete freedom to accept or reject a candidate. None would even know whom she voted. So she chose what her heart said.😛

She is dumb, she doesn't play games, she is innocent and honest to herself; these are the kind of adjectives we associate with Ellie, right ?? 😉
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Posted: 11 years ago
#45

Originally posted by: sscomp32

Thats why i call this OTT Forum😆. A 10 seconds preview is dissected to death and the original scene is completely different. 😉

And to everybody who does not know😉, What Elli did is what you call NOT keeping grudges. 😆


Correct, if Ellie didn't keep grudges, she didn't keep it either for paratha. So she chose the best man according to her. 😊
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Rapier

That is an incorrect deduction. Just because Elli had seemed to forgive Armaan, it does not make him right during that incidence. He never was right in that matter, no matter how you spin it. Her voting for Armaan may show that she forgave him, but it means nothing about his behavior. He is still wrong and if he repeats it, he will be wrong again. None of the reactions on the forum were OTT because I cannot find a single reason to justify his behavior. Not a single one. Also Elli is someone who forgives people easily. For all you know, she might vote for Kamya tomorrow. Does that mean Kamya was right in bitching about her? No! It only means Elli had forgiven her.


Forgiving isn't forgetting. When there is a comparison between two, and there is no pressure on her, that means she will make the honest choice, well by forgiving but nit by forgetting. That's human nature.

Nobody is claiming here Aarman was right. But the reactions of the forum was OTT. I think you need to read some of the order posts, to get the complete picture. Her voting has shown that the paratha incident has hurt her more than Arman incident.

That's the reason, it's credible to say that, it was a friendly joke that went wrong due to use of words and the way it was said. But it was solved long before. And unfortunately some are still bringing in Rape (OTT) to compare. 😆
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: SoPunk


Wrong premise; that's why this is different and incomparable to what you are saying. There was no compulsion, no peer pressure, nothing involved in today's voting. It was a closed door voting and she had complete freedom to accept or reject a candidate. None would even know whom she voted. So she chose what her heart said.😛

She is dumb, she doesn't play games, she is innocent and honest to herself; these are the kind of adjectives we associate with Ellie, right ?? 😉


I am making a point on your POV..you said and pointed out others on a issue they beleive in..u scoffed at it..u found it funny..

News Alert, if u havent got it by now...no matter how polite a woman is...she does not like to be taunted on her body in a lecherous way..AND her politeness does not mean..she is inviting anyone..
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: enigmatic_zephy


I am making a point on your POV..you said and pointed out others on a issue they beleive in..u scoffed at it..u found it funny..

News Alert, if u havent got it by now...no matter how polite a woman is...she does not like to be taunted on her body in a lecherous way..AND her politeness does not mean..she is inviting anyone..


You are talking way beyond the topic .. 😆


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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: SoPunk


Forgiving isn't forgetting. When there is a comparison between two, and there is no pressure on her, that means she will make the honest choice, well by forgiving but nit by forgetting. That's human nature.

Nobody is claiming here Aarman was right. But the reactions of the forum was OTT. I think you need to read some of the order posts, to get the complete picture. Her voting has shown that the paratha incident has hurt her more than Arman incident.

That's the reason, it's credible to say that, it was a friendly joke that went wrong due to use of words and the way it was said. But it was solved long before. And unfortunately some are still bringing in Rape (OTT) to compare. 😆


1. You have to understand that just because Elli took it as a 'joke gone bad' and later forgave Armaan, doesn't mean it was a justified behavior. She may have even forgotten the incident, which is fine. But that doesn't mean Armaan was justified in saying any of that, joking or not! To her it may be so trivial that her paratha comes before it. Fine! But her reaction has nothing to do with his behavior. Even if Elli didn't cry that day, I would've still called out Armaan over his unacceptable behavior!

2. The things he had said were very demeaning! VERY! If Elli is too stupid to understand that and she chooses to forget about it, that is not my problem. What he said was very demeaning. If you say he had said that as a joke, then that shows a lot about his character. It's very cheap! His comments were very degrading and every reaction he got from the forum members was justified. Even if members compared it to rape, eve teasing, etc. Because in my opinion, his behavior is the type of behavior that fosters a disrespectful attitude towards women that do lead to sexual abuse, and yes, even rape. The fact that he can say that even as a joke is not acceptable. Because it shows that that kind of thinking is happening! And it should never be! Waise bolne ke ideas hi nahi aani chahiye! And that's what the forum members were saying! It needs to be grilled into people's heads so much that it becomes second nature to know to not even say it even as a joke. If we let that behavior pass by and take it as a joke gone bad, then it will repeat! That is what the point was to begin with on the forum! Then it just got out of hand because people started fighting.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Rapier


1. You have to understand that just because Elli took it as a 'joke gone bad' and later forgave Armaan, doesn't mean it was a justified behavior. She may have even forgotten the incident, which is fine. But that doesn't mean Armaan was justified in saying any of that, joking or not! To her it may be so trivial that her paratha comes before it. Fine! But her reaction has nothing to do with his behavior. Even if Elli didn't cry that day, I would've still called out Armaan over his unacceptable behavior!

That would equal to moral policing and intrusion into people's private life. Just because you want to, you can't drag with that. Then it's blowing out of proportion. Let the girl decide what she will accept and what not. When Kushal or Armaan can touch each other infront of camera and it's ok for you because they don't have a problem. Then you have no right to intrude in this matter also. Physically touching each other in objectionable way, is worse than a joke gone wrong. Because the basis of OTT was the impact on the viewers. Physical touch will have larger effect in the society. If it doesn't matter they are ok with it or not.😛

The voting has shown that, she perceives offering a dry paratha was more insulting than Arman's behavior. So that clearly shows her involvement in the joke.😊

2. The things he had said were very demeaning! VERY! If Elli is too stupid to understand that and she chooses to forget about it, that is not my problem. What he said was very demeaning. If you say he had said that as a joke, then that shows a lot about his character. It's very cheap! His comments were very degrading and every reaction he got from the forum members was justified. Even if members compared it to rape, eve teasing, etc. Because in my opinion, his behavior is the type of behavior that fosters a disrespectful attitude towards women that do lead to sexual abuse, and yes, even rape. The fact that he can say that even as a joke is not acceptable. Because it shows that that kind of thinking is happening! And it should never be! Waise bolne ke ideas hi nahi aani chahiye! And that's what the forum members were saying! It needs to be grilled into people's heads so much that it becomes second nature to know to not even say it even as a joke. If we let that behavior pass by and take it as a joke gone bad, then it will repeat! That is what the point was to begin with on the forum! Then it just got out of hand because people started fighting.


If Ellie was engaged in a cheap joking session, that's not the problem of the man alone. Even touching in objectionable places on camera doesn't increase respect of the women, just because she permits it. Both are similar now on the show and the verbal thing rather is minor than what those physical touches could cause, if we consider impact.

So yes, as everyone maintained, that those words and attitude isn't acceptable and both were responsible to a certain degree, they solved it infront of the viewers so there was no question of having any negative impact. We shouldn't consider the viewers to be fools. But the reactions on the forum, was clearly OTT making Arman the victim. Well that's my opinion at this point of the show, specially after today's voting, it's proven, what that incident meant to Ellie.
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