Originally posted by: asrm
I dont think any gautam fan really liked his psychoness .. what they liked was the way he fought 8 back to back nominations when he was cornered and boycotted by entire house ... noone supported him giving gaali to Tanna but everyone supported the way he felt sorry for it and later fought back in the house and survived 8 back to back nominations with his entertainment ..
>>Actually the whole world supported him rather than Karishma. It was only teh HMs who supported Karishma and that too in an episode or 2. After that except karishma everyobe moved on and he got an advantage as soon as Salman mentioned that he is a hero. So it was not as much as it seems. Since then he started getting arrogant.
And the whole world supported because whole world saw the extreme to which he was cornered weeks after weeks ... first week when he was nominated by HMs along with Praneet , as per sources praneet got highest vote over gautam ... but its eventually Gautam took over other favourites .. Why ? thats where I will say he earned his fanbase .. and yeah he got the advantage but who gave him the advantage here .. its the housemates only ? after that to cash on that advantage and become the favourite of all by overtaking other popular contestants was his own talent ... public will not overnight fall for anyone just because he is handsome or else Public would hv fallen for Upen too na
people like his entertaining side like Sonali lets go to mohali
>> I had a good laugh at it as well but after a while it was OTT specially "we love GOTI" err Gauti. Mostly it was entertainment where he was irritating others. Fun was when Preetam and teh group used to have some good conversations, when Upen was teasing Karishma with Dimpy, or the " khane ko nahi milta hai baaki sab theek thaak hai"
to each his own .. I always found Preetam jokes like gajar and stuffs vulger ... compare to that Gautam's jokes were mostly clean .. and thats what majority too felt reason why he is most popular today and not Upen or co
or the whole confession room fiasco over Tanna ka make up vs releasing Sushant from sevak
>>Agreed. but he had many more of those - remember the Nutella. Very conveniently he lies and then says it in Confession and he always pisses off people and conveniently says - mazak kar raha thha yaar, gussa kyun ho rahe ho...
Neutella bit toh Tanna too lied after stealing it and eating in bathroom which even vodafone caller pointed out but as usual Tanna puts the blame on Arya and washes her hands off when it was clearly showed in live feed and uncensored video that she stole it from gautam .. 😆😆
or his Gautam city task which was full on entertaining .. these aspects r loved by his fans and not the psycho one
>>I dont think it was entertaining - He was just in a revengeful mood with his Puns on his side and then punishing others who he did not like...
thats your view .. not necessary thats the view of 100 other people .. they take him as entertaining and gautam city is still considered as best task so far .. even HMs themselves admitted the same in WKW 😆 ..
And lawyer part came much later in show when he already had his fanbase based on his above entertaining qualities .. and also I thought lawyer part was compliment and he said it because Dimpy commented about his community which was edited out from show and even Ali told Dimpy not to tell those thingss on community as those r sensitive .. so in short Gautam has reacted only when someone poked him
>>if we go by Editing then we have to also assume a lot of scenarios where what he did was edited and the reactions were captured to show him a "bechara". he was the favored one - getting to meet his mom, his brother (who had the same attitude of being rude and mean like Bakhtiyaar), going out to shopping, going on a date, getting the dictatorship, getting immunity tasks etc.
Nope I m not assuming .. I said it based on Ali ka comment in same episode when he said Dimpy comment on coummunity is sensitive , u should not hv said it .. noone really supported Dimpy ka rant on lawyer part which says it all
I think the biggest problem is that Bigg boss is not a reality show anymore. Its not about the mental toughness and a decent game but something where you have to pull weird antics.
Yes thats true but weird antics were displayed by Upen too and even Praneet in his fake fights with Ali .. isn't it .. but did they survive ?
>>Upen did it after continuous pestering of "Do something, dont tag along behind a girl" which I fail to understand. Dont treat like a game, treat like a place to live and survive which Upen was doing rather than defeating others. The fact of not getting nominated for 10 weeks is a victory because that is the real game rather than going to extremes of drama. I am sure you will agree with me that we dunno who votes because some of it seems scripted and manipulated based on preferences. Gone are the days of reality... About Praneet - he was one of the better guys - just because he seemed to be "oh not so hot and young, and was a nice guy treated as a poor doormat, he could not get TRP. Having someone like him around you is a godo thing rather than Gautam who in his really good days used to snap at Praneet when he would be on his side and tried to explain gautam (usually at night).
Upen making Dimpy clean his susu was good ..Upen making Tana go in pool and pick up those stones were cool ? I wonder if gautam did the same , would u say the same then ?? I will definitely call that taking revenge on others for sadistic pleasure which is much worse than defeating others ..
I disagree on Praneet because let me tell u a fact .. I started watching BB8 for Praneet because I m his fan from geet show .. i was die hard fan of that show and the couple and he was grt as Adi sir there .. I hated gautam in the start .. what made me shift my loyalties from Praneet to Gautam then ? its because as time went by I saw gautam coming out more genuine than praneet .. and even votes say so .. first week praneet got highest votes and declared safe first .. he topped even in all online polls .. but then see Praneet ka graph vs Gautam ka graph in all online polls and u will see the result .. Praneet kept going down and Gautam kept going up ... if people only fell for gautam ka looks , then they should hv fallen in first week itself .. but that was never the case .. and if good look is only criteria , then is Upen bad looking that many dint fall for him ??
Coming to snapping , everyone snapped at each other ... Praneet too snapped many times on gautam trying to lecture him on everything when they both r co contestants ... xso thats not any excuse of why his popularity gone down .. if praneet became a doormat like what u said , its praneet ka fault .. he could not keep the momentum he had in first week ..
I am no ones supporter and myself used to like Gautam during the Karishma mirchi issue. poor guy but then I did not like his attitude of being righteous.
Mayb he does hv a self righteous attitude but somewhere he has few qualities which does overshadow his negatives or else he cannot get such a huge fanbase ..
>> Nobody is "Dudh ka dhulaa" everyone is wabi-sabi. I thought it otherwise - his negatives overshadow his goodness. I mean whats the point of asking karishma "What did you learn from the clip?" It was such a happy moment where BB was making everyone feel good about their stay he asks this question... kind of sadist! Just like Turning up Arya's cup to lost and found or breaking others cups. Woudl you want a friend who comes to you and says (if not bring the cup to you) "I see your cup there, can you bring it OR throuw it away. What will yoru reaction be? I am sure you will be pissed off. Did you see how Pritam and even Puneet got mad at him. if he had done some more of those to papa punz he would have been alone. he has something that he does not have too many people in the HM. He is difficult to live with but entertaining from outside.
if his negatives really overshadowed his goodness , then he wont b topping the popularity charts everywhere 😆😆 and like I said good looks r no excuse or else upen would b topping the charts too 😆 ...
just like u pointed out the negatives of gautam , if I sit pointing out negatives of tanna or anyone else from start , I will hv to write an essay then 😆 .. thing is u dont like gautam , so u will only point out his negatives .. Same for me , if I dont like anyone , i will see his/her negatives .. human nature .. but my point is simple .. Gautam has max fan base right now and thats defnititely not a fulke .. he earned it ..
I see this show as a reality show where you get to learn from people and as Praneet said - Its good to see from outside but difficult to live with. Dimpy came in saying gautam is hero and now knows what it is... and agreed Upen is nice and he stood by her.
Dimpy is playing her own game too .. when she saw Gautam turned to Pritam over her .. she thought only way to survive here is go anti gautam like tanna did .. all r playing games at the end of the day for their own survival ...
>> I fail to understand why some are stamped as "playing a game". Maybe some people are just what they are (Sonali for example or the gentleman - Sameer soni). ocassional tripping and changing friends are common and but some are loyal throughout. With him all except Puneet left him at one point or the other while there were others who stayed loyal throughout. How conveniently he could bring up things liek - what will your family think about smoking to Sonali (before that was aired, nobody knew about it. Damage was done. My question - would you like to be friend with someone like him?
Well big boss only said Dimply playing a game by using the facts of other contestants against them only 😆 .. not just big boss even salman and farah said same .. all cannot b wrong na ..
And about gautam bringing up smoking issue of sonali , dint praneet bring up the father issue of gautam too which he told praneet-pritam in private trusting them .. like i said if u dislike someone u will notice only his negatives .. I too can point out several such negatives of other contestants .. but when we start comparing , then gautam ka negatives r far less than negatives of praneet and co ... thats why like I said praneet's popularity graph went down and gautam ka went up .. otherwise when it started praneet was way more popular due to his mahabharat and geet fanbase which included me but slowly many like me moved to gautam ..
I would not prefer to have a friend like GG who made Praneet swim at 3 AM in a winter in a cold pool. or who snaps and gives percentage.
Anyways its nothing against anyone but more towards the format and the new entertainment mantra... and also the tremendous influence of the bully Salman khan.
Well Praneet was made to swim once at 3am as part of gautam city dictator task .. but what was gautam made to do in his stay in big boss house ?
>>It was not a part of the task. Task did not mention about giving a punishment and that too of swimming at 3 at night. praneet did get sic (but was edited :)) My question again - as a person or putting yourself in Praneets place - what would your reaction be?
praneet himself mentioned in the episode because its part of task , I did it otherwise not 😆😆 .. later nigar too said to gautam he cant give punishments as captain blabla as per rule book and when gautam gave example of praneet ka punishment , she said that was part of task ... nad yes if i put myself in praneet ka place , i will take the punishment because i know i hv broken a rule of smoking in living room which was not the right place 😊
become sevak for 4 weeks .. take max no. of punishments in house from being in prison to boot polish to become ghulam and sevak of the house and personal sevak of dimpy for days and weeks ... isn't all that harsh too ?
>>Gautam was not the only one to do it. There were others who were sevak as well. there were others who got punishment too and sometimes others got it for no reason. he did not offer to being Sevak like Arya did. he got it either as punishment or because of his wrongdoings and pissing off people.
tell me one name who had got more sevak and ghulam punishments than gautam 😆
but did he complain even once ? Everyone goes through their share of sturggles to survive in that house and gautam I felt went through max struggle without a single complain .. and thats where he earned his fan base
He refused to make tea for Simpy and had many ocasssions where he was mean - Remember how Upen and Arya as waiters, broke it and gave every single penny to the hotel guest but GG stole the key and then was pissed off when Praneet did the "right" thing. he whined and complained as well but he should not because he usually had more favored treatment of getting good things as part of the whole game.
refused to make tea because he was sweeping that time .. and later he made the tea too after sweeping .. nand do give me example of more favoured treatments that he got ?? 😆 .. what praneet did in the task of hotel all knows .. he stopped the task midway saying no stealing allowed and later along with pritam cheated all by stealing all money which was caught red handed at night by tanna and later in WKW episode too ... 😆😆
Also praneet is no saint either . comparing Gautam to a zoo animal was not cool too ..everyone hv their share of negatives in this house
??I dont deny - nobody is saint but who is better. it was a good example though. How else can you put it
yes nobody is saint .. nut not everybody can earn so many fans the way gautam did in last 15 weeks and if he did earn those many fans then obviously he did something right than rest ... and like i said if good looks was only reason then upen would b topping popularity chart as well ..
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