I'm quite glad that I started this topic, as I got introduced to a few people who post more than 2 lines per post. Glad to see that the intellectual of this forum is still maintained well by some people.Originally posted by: *Woh Ajnabee*
I'm not partial towards anyone. This show is based in India. In most of South Asia, women are still mistreated and are not granted equal rights. If you can't see that, then perhaps you are too biased towards men.
I agree that the culture is different in North America and Europe. You started the topic on domestic violence - that's another story all together. STOP BLAMING THE VICTIM. That's all I will say to you. Maybe they don't report those crimes because they are scared for their lives.
Anyway - I am not elevating women to a higher status so you are misunderstanding me there. Even domestic violence works both ways. So I already know that women are not angels. But we're all humans and therefore should be treated equally.
I realize that in India (and many parts of Asia), domestic violence does exist in some places. However, even you have to admit that it usually occurs in the lower class societies. In the middle class and above areas, you rarely see such actions.
As for me being partial towards men, you're gravely mistaken. I despise not only men but the whole species of humans. How can I possibly like the people who start the World War and then blame the Americans for ending it? Or the same humans who kill thousands of cows and cause terror attacks in the name of God? No, I would not even come close to liking any of these weird creatures, of whom I am unfortunately a part of.
As for blaming the victim, I would never do such a thing. But again, one has to stand up for themselves. Nowadays, there is a well developed system for dealing with these things. Unfortunately, as I said, most of the domestic violence occurs in people living in poverty. In those areas, the police is much less accessible.
My point is that we have to strive for equality between everyone - not just everyone of all genders. However, we need to develop a good plan to do so. A plan which does not mean giving women more special "benefits" than men. We want equality, so treat women as equals to men, not higher. If a women assaults a man, she should face the same ramifications as if a man assaulted a women. Neither gender should receive any special treatment.
Originally posted by: *Woh Ajnabee*
He blamed it on Praneet for revealing the conversation instead of reprimanding Ali for saying it in the first place. Also, the people on the forum hold double standards when it comes to "promiscuous" behavior between male and female contestants on the show.
And I agree that Tanna, D, and Dimpy were completely wrong in calling Sonali a pendulum and discussing her "changing shifts", etc. But my only question is why aren't men called out on such behavior? Why is it so easy to discredit a woman by just assassinating her character?
As I said in another thread, the first people who should be blamed are the ones who started the issue.
No one in this thread has held "double standards when it comes to promiscuous behaviour between male and female contestants on the show." I've never accused Sonali of being loose of sexual morals. But my point is that the women accused her of that, and Sonali did nothing. Then, when Ali very loosely accused her of that due to being severely instigated, she slapped him. That is, in my opinion, overreacting because she didn't react at all when the women did the same.
I don't know how many times I have told you that one's words can't assassinate anyone's character. If I call someone a sl*t on television, it does not make the audience think that she is a sl*t unless she actually portrays herself to be one through her actions. Words are not that strong in this sense.
Originally posted by: Heisenberg.
You are totally within your rights to call him, her, or me a f**king asshole, and that definitely wouldn't make us a f**king asshole just cause you uttered those words, even though I can be one at times. 😆... however, that wouldn't give me the right to hit you.
Slapping someone is definitely more worse than calling someone a s**t, it's not a very nice thing to say to someone, but hey, is your respect so fragile than one bad word breaks it?
And it's not like only Ali has labelled her as such, even the other female houemates have insinuated that she's behaving like a s**t, it's just that Ali has stated it bluntly, I'm not defending what Ali said, but he isn't solely to blame for "disrespecting a woman" - a notion that I don't entirely agree with, it all depends on the context, circumstance, situation, who's the offender and who's the victim etc. So when we talk about gender equality, the first thing that should happen is that women should stop disrespecting other women, since it's being whipped up into such a big issue, it shouldn't be a one-sided thing.
Personally, I have a NFS policy (no first strike), so if you attack me first, then I'm gonna rip you a new one, irrespective of whether you're a male or female. 😆
You are within your political rights if you call someone that. However, that only means that the law can not take any actions against you for it. However, non-governmental organizations can pose their own consequences for such actions. For example, if you come to my house and call me something derogatory, I can't call the police to arrest you. However, I can tell you to get out.
"Slapping someone is definitely more worse than calling someone a s**t, it's not a very nice thing to say to someone, but hey, is your respect so fragile than one bad word breaks it"
That's put very nicely. Your character or your respect should not be so frail such that it can be broken by one word. Especially not if the whole world is watching and you are sure that your character is not being portrayed in a bad way.
On a side note, are you a physicist (I include physics majors, graduate students and postdoctoral students as being physicists as well).
Edited by HippoSucks - 10 years ago
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