about history (PhoolKUvar and Ajab de)

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Posted: 10 years ago
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There is no record of Ajabde (Ajabdeh/Ajabade)

1) In historical evidences, written documents, besides the fact that Ajabade was first wife of Maharana Pratap and mother of Pratap's first son and successor Amar Singh, there is no other record. Although Contiloe Entertainment, the company which telecast the serial brags of a love story between Ajabade and Pratap Singh, there is no evidence to support their love before marriage.

Ajabde and Phool Kanwar were cousins - Questionable!

Ajabdeh was daughter of Rao Ram Rakh Panwar. "Panwar" belongs to Agnivanshi clan of Rajput. Panwars according to anthropologists are referred as "tribes". On the other hand, Phool Kanwar aka Phool Bai Rathore belonged to the most superior clan of Rajput that is Suryavanshi, the same as Maharana Pratap and a prominent family of Marwar.While Ajabde is from Bijolia-Bundi side area, Phool is from Marwar. Let's say even though, their clans differed they were cousins but does that mean they were good friends? In addition, how come a Rajput Rathore girl with so much attitude is staying at her distant relative's place for so long? Makes one think, right?

3)Ajabdeh and Phool Kanwar close friends?

Phool Bai Rathore was 6th wife of Maharana Pratap according to Bhagwan Singh Rana's book "Maharana Pratap" and I guess everybody by now, who are passionate about Maharana Pratap serial knows about it. This is the reason why you see her plot. Since, there is no information of Phool Kanwar either in the books or historical records, the makers just decided to bridge the gap between Ajabde and Phool by making a dramatized story. They couldn't resist bring the Mughal angle and so they even brought Great Mughal Emperor Akbar in it. Fictionally it all sounds good but historically there is no basis of this story.

Maharana Pratap Married Phool Kanwar for Political Alliance

Back in the era of Maharana Pratap, after Raja Bharmal gave his daughter's hand to Akbar, many of the Rajputs followed the trend to avoid animosity with the Mughals. Maharana Pratap was strictly against such Rajput - Mughal marriages and so it is quite apparent that he would have married other 10 Rajput princess mainly for political alliances.

Maharana Pratap married Ajabdeh at the age of 17 that is in the year 1557 and his first son Amar Singh I was born in the year 1559, the same year when his grandfather laid the foundation of Udaipur. On the contrary, Akbar married Jodha in the year 1562, this means majority of Pratap's marriage post 1562 was to stop Rajput kings from giving their hands to Akbar. This can be one of the reason why Phool Kanwar was married to Pratap. No wonder, Pratap even in his worst dreams couldn't see a Marwar girl marrying a Mughal.

The love triangle created by the serial makers is only to build interest so that the Indian Television viewers stay glued to the plot and the serial continues to gain TRPs and TVTs. Didn't the serial with the love triangles twist and turns flourish in the past?

Udai Singh II was A Coward unlike his Veer Putra Maharana Pratap

Maharana Pratap was noted quoting, "If there was no Udai Singh in between Maharana Sanga and him, both Mewar and Chittor, would have got its independence." He was being absolutely correct because Uday Singh II, founder of Udaipur and Father of Maharana Pratap brought only disgrace to the dynasty by fleeing from Chittor after it came under Akbar in 1568. Perhaps, more than him his generals Jaimal and Patta deserves honor as they protected the fort for more than 4 months and even managed to flee Akbar's army until Man Singh helped Akbar in this episode, ultimately killing Jaimal and Patta.

While, our historians had the modesty to leave aside all the negative traits of our legends while addressing the masses or communicating with the next generation, the world of internet, social media, ebooks and TV serials now seems to be breaking boundaries by exposing mainly the negative traits. No one has been barred, neither Jawaharlal Nehru nor Uday Singh II. However, everything from these sources too cannot be grasped in its raw form because stories in the serial and books are generally historical fictions.

Ok, coming back to Maharan Pratap's father Uday Singh II. Sony TV have been telecasting Bharat Ka Veer Putra Maha Rana Pratap Singh and I see a lot of people protesting against the serial, mainly because they think they are showing the Rajputs in negative light - Or are the protesters a bit insecure as they now fear that if the channel continues showing negative traits and weakness of their community, it will bring a big disgrace to the legacy which they have been carrying from so long. Rajputs are technically considered as brave and might, aren't they?

For instance, the television serial Maharana Pratap shows how Shakti Singh was not a favored child of Rana Uday Singh II, and also gives the audiences a chance to think from Shakti's point of view. No wonder, Shakti Singh thought of joining hands with Akbar instead of supporting his own father.

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Posted: 10 years ago
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Thanks for your post 😊😊
I agree that the love track before the leap was just to get high TRPs and there is no evidence of it in history. It may be true that Pratap loved Ajabde but still it was not necessary for the makers to show a kids love story in MP and drag it just for TRPs. Pratap is a warrior and I don't find it right to show him as a romantic hero instead of a strong man.


I used to watch the show in bits and pieces when it started and I loved when Shahbaaz Khan made his entry but then the unnecessarily dragging made it too boring. Then the love story made it even worse for me as I did not appreciate the makers to focus on kids falling in love and my mom switched off the TV when she saw this in the show. The love triangle and more nonsense kept being shown in the show and it did not look as if they were showing MP anymore.


I liked how they showed Pratap killing BK after the leap but then they dragged Ajab's entry and now DB's track is 😡

The problem with the serials these days that these shows whether historical or not focus more on love stories rather than the actual facts and now as well they are focusing on household issues instead of showing what actually happened in those days like the wars and the battles. They feel the audience wants to watch a love story in every show which is not true. By dragging it, they are making it boring to watch and the current track is not pleasing at all

Sorry for the long rant of mine but I could not stop myself 😆
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: erikalui

Thanks for your post 😊😊

I agree that the love track before the leap was just to get high TRPs and there is no evidence of it in history. It may be true that Pratap loved Ajabde but still it was not necessary for the makers to show a kids love story in MP and drag it just for TRPs. Pratap is a warrior and I don't find it right to show him as a romantic hero instead of a strong man.


I used to watch the show in bits and pieces when it started and I loved when Shahbaaz Khan made his entry but then the unnecessarily dragging made it too boring. Then the love story made it even worse for me as I did not appreciate the makers to focus on kids falling in love and my mom switched off the TV when she saw this in the show. The love triangle and more nonsense kept being shown in the show and it did not look as if they were showing MP anymore.


I liked how they showed Pratap killing BK after the leap but then they dragged Ajab's entry and now DB's track is 😡

The problem with the serials these days that these shows whether historical or not focus more on love stories rather than the actual facts and now as well they are focusing on household issues instead of showing what actually happened in those days like the wars and the battles. They feel the audience wants to watch a love story in every show which is not true. By dragging it, they are making it boring to watch and the current track is not pleasing at all

Sorry for the long rant of mine but I could not stop myself 😆

Well erika it was not a kids lovestory, it was a teenage love story btw a 17 yr old boy and a 15 yr old girl shown in a very decent and dignified manner, yes but I agree mp cvs have a thing for dragging unnecessarily, instead of the 7 months, the whole thing could have been shown in 2-3 months and then continued with the leap, another thing I also agree that they should focus more on the warrior side and his achievements with his mother and wife being his support systems..
This is strictly my POV so no bashing pls just bcoz I favored the preleap love story
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: _zari_

Well erika it was not a kids lovestory, it was a teenage love story btw a 17 yr old boy and a 15 yr old girl shown in a very decent and dignified manner, yes but I agree mp cvs have a thing for dragging unnecessarily, instead of the 7 months, the whole thing could have been shown in 2-3 months and then continued with the leap, another thing I also agree that they should focus more on the warrior side and his achievements with his mother and wife being his support systems..
This is strictly my POV so no bashing pls just bcoz I favored the preleap love story


I know it was not a kids love story but a teenage story. It was the fact that the actors looked too young to play 17 and 15 years and so it looked odd for me as an audience. I don't have any issues with the actors though but the fact that they were focusing too much on the eye locks and their romance made me and my mom who were watching the show, stop watching it. As an audience, it looked to weird to watch it even though it was not indecent.


I have watched another show as well where they were showing a 7 year old being over friendly with a 8 year old boy which again I did not appreciate even though there was no indecent stuff nor any eye locks or romance shown but it just does not look good for me.

I am not saying this because I have any issues with the preleap actors/characters/viewers and for me the post leap has too failed because of the dragging and kitchen politics.


Glad that you agree with me that they should focus more on the achievements of the warrior rather than the love story. For me, even in the move JA when they focused on the love story more than his life, I did not appreciate it as it does not look good to show the warrior as a romantic person and make him solve his household issues instead of fighting for his land.


The CVs should have taken care of this pre and post leap but they failed to do so


Disclaimer: I do not mean to offend the real characters by any way but am only talking about the show and it's strictly my POV.

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