Pratap and Phool Story ? Reasons - Page 3

Originally posted by: jyotic74

I have gone through 3 books and found out that ajab was alive for atleast to 15 years some books say she gave pratap 2 sons I don't know but written and after chitttor was captured ajab accompanied pratap in jungles. And in one book it is written that from age of 10 years amar singh son of ajab Was continuously with pratap not one moment he left him alone he was very attached to amar so we can assume may be ajab dies around that time and so pratap always takes their son with them that means ajab dies after 12 to 15 years of marriage maybe and another thing to support this is that on her deathbed she forces pratap to marry her younger sister and she was pratap 9th wife. So during ajab lifetime pratap married 8 times but for political reasons only and his only love of life was ajab and she was maharani so till that time she was alive. So she dies at least after 15 years and for pratap it was untimely death because she must be about 30 years then. Pratap married phool only for political reasons

Originally posted by: PrincessArohi

I agree with u Jyotic ! Maybe after Ajab's death he spent most of his time with Amar Singh only nd so after Ajab no other Rani was anounced as Maharani because Pratap's fav was one and only Ajabdeh !
Anyone knows that after how many years of AJab's death had Pratap died ?? If anyone knows then plz reply me back ! I am waiting !!

Originally posted by: roopshas1

No, that's not the case. I have already explained the laws in another post. Wait let me post it again. And for its source it comes from an Oxford reference book named The Indian Subcontinent.

In Islam, all the wives from first to last are equal in status as wives. No one was greater right over the husband and if she wants to be the chief wife or queen, she has to become the favourite wife of the man. A prime example of this is Noor Jahan. She was Jahangir's twentieth wife but carried the title of Empress of India, simply because her husband favoured her over his other wives. Similarly, in Islam, the eldest son does not necessarily become the successor to throne. The father as the king has the right to choose a worthy successor from amongst all his sons and male relatives or even sometimes outside that. e.g. Razia Sultan, India's first female ruler in her own right, was chosen by her father as ruler over her own brothers.

In contrast in Hinduism, the laws are different. The wives can be divided into two groups- dharmapatni and uppatni. The dharmapatni, as the word states, is the rightful wife, the first wife. The uppatni, the deputy wife/wives, are the rest of the wives. Hindu texts clearly state that only the dharmapatni has the right to sit with the husband in pujas and yagnas. In her absence, the place beside the man is to remain empty. This gesture is symbolic of the fact that the dharmapatni is considered the soulmate (not in romantic terms) of the man. When the man dies and reincarnates, the dharmapatni will also reincarnate along with him as his consort again. That's why many a times when a man died, the first wife was almost expected to commit sati. Only in rare cases, they did not. The other wives are not expected to do so. If they committed sati, it was usually out of choice. If the dharmapatni died before the man did, an appointed uppatni takes over the duties of the dharmapatni but she can never call herself dharmapatni and in case of royalty, the Maharani. She will always remain a Rani. Even the hereditary laws stated that only the eldest son from dharmapatni, the dharmaputra, would inherit the throne. Only if he is incompetent or handicapped or dead, does the next eldest son step in.

All this changed with the advent of Islam. In ancient times (during Mauryan and Gupta periods, not Mahabharata and Ramayana) uppatnis were treated as little more than concubines and keeps. The dharmapatni had their own palaces and were actively involved in politics while uppatnis all used to live together and were strictly kept out of politics. This was ensure that the harem politics does not reach the court and affect the country's running and the inheritance of the throne. With the advent of Islam, however, the status of these wives improved and were more on par with the dharmapatni. Hindus started adopting the purdah system as well. Even the inheritance of the eldest could be overruled by the king. However, one thing remained constant is the right to participate in holy ceremony as an equal partner to the husband as well as the right to become the Maharani/dharmapatni. Even Islam took in several practices from Hinduism. Most of these were introduced by Akbar who was raised in a Rajput household. The most important of these inluded the dharmapatni style treatment of the harem where the only difference was that instead of the first wife or senior most wife, it was usually the most favourite wife who became the Empress.

You see, thus, even if Pratap wouldn't have been in love with Ajab and maybe with some other wife, he still wouldn't have been able to give her the title of Maharani, even after Ajab's death. Since its a bonus that Pratap's only love (other than his motherland and mother) was Ajab, let's just say that he and we are lucky.

If Ajab was around 30 when died, that means Pratap was 32. He died at the age of 57 so its 25 years of being separated from your true love.

Originally posted by: roopshas1

Originally posted by: jyotic74

Yes hiru it appears to be 25 years of separation. In fact jawanta bai his mother died 10 days after pratap died.

Originally posted by: PrincessArohi

25 years.. Are you sure ? I mean actually one of my relative ( he is going to be a historian ) told me that after Ajabdeh's death Pratap was alive for just 5-7 years not more than that.. so how cum they was separated for 25 years ??????? Please just find some authentiic proofs of this matter (if possible ) !