Bhagonwali: a visual/auditory medium (update p. 9) - Page 3

JP very well said. The thing about not being in sync is the matter. They both try but on the wrong things.

Runjhun cant give herself to him thats why his picture not hers. She cannot even give her picture to him.😃

You said it well.

here's an updated list of the images found in Bhagonwali:

page 1
simran_singh_24: vehicular movements
etna: PN looking like a prison
azuria: blackout in Gunjhun's area and in PN

page 2
jpalagrawal: difference in height between the 2 leads; runjhun's scarf around guddu's neck
aginaya: reference to bangles as discussed by wafah in "cuts and bruises"
azuria: rain, picture of guddu not fitting in frame, malpua and runjhun; everything being out of sync

also, i'd like to mention another good thread about the kundali, started by luvsagar. the link to that discussion is:
https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/bhagonwali-baante-apni-taqdeer/1698714/kundali-trouble-for-r-and-g-relationship
the kundali has become a very important object in bhagonwali, and the fact that the CV's are beefing up on this aspect of the story gives us more reason to really pay attention to it.

in the july 22 episode, we see that the guddu makes runjhun sign some papers. if you notice the video
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part 2 daily motion link at 10:25

we are not only shown runjhun signing the papers. we also see exactly what she is signing. given that the CV's focused on what the paper contains, i feel that we can refer back to this as reference to future events that are coming.

i don't know if it's just me and the fact that i am an outsider of hindu culture, or there's really something to what i observed in terms of story. my eyes were drawn to the image of shiv and parvati (thanks gardes and mikan_sakura for the info). i tried to look up their story, and it was very interesting. at this point, i don't know if the focus on the image is just for prop purposes, or for plot purposes. i just feel there is a need to document this particular scene. it may serve a purpose in the future.
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Well I could not stop myself from "Three"
well we see the first storm when Guddu is at Madushala and Run jhu gets sad. He comes home and approches her and then Abi comes up and he fights burn clothes and leave.

Second time the storm comes Guddu has already left but comes back with the storm at Savtri Vratt and bring back Runjhun the other day the saree get stuck in the bedpost and Runjhun thinks he is holding it. He explains that he will not touch her without her permission.

Third time the storm comes it comes with rains really havey rains. It could be that everything gets clean, or they be washed away in the flash flood. Or to blurr their vision. Guddu approceh Runjhun ( I think blurred fits since his desire blurred his vision) She decline later a fight sort of but both get back inside their home.

This time the storm is much fierce then before and is going to affect them more then just winds did.

Originally posted by: azuria

Well I could not stop myself from "Three"
well we see the first storm when Guddu is at Madushala and Run jhu gets sad. He comes home and approches her and then Abi comes up and he fights burn clothes and leave.

Second time the storm comes Guddu has already left but comes back with the storm at Savtri Vratt and bring back Runjhun the other day the saree get stuck in the bedpost and Runjhun thinks he is holding it. He explains that he will not touch her without her permission.

Third time the storm comes it comes with rains really havey rains. It could be that everything gets clean, or they be washed away in the flash flood. Or to blurr their vision. Guddu approceh Runjhun ( I think blurred fits since his desire blurred his vision) She decline later a fight sort of but both get back inside their home.

This time the storm is much fierce then before and is going to affect them more then just winds did.

Az
Nice post on storms.Really liked your thoughts on the use of elements.
hey, what about the storm, when RJ waits for Guddu outside the bar & she faints? what do you make of that?
All these broken pieces of glass & bangles and the frequent power cuts are bit unsettling. They scream "trouble ahead" ya?

Originally posted by: simran_singh_24

Az
Nice post on storms.Really liked your thoughts on the use of elements.
hey, what about the storm, when RJ waits for Guddu outside the bar & she faints? what do you make of that?
All these broken pieces of glass & bangles and the frequent power cuts are bit unsettling. They scream "trouble ahead" ya?

Simran
well you said it!! The rains when Runjhun was waiting for Guddu outside the bar. That was Runjhun following Guddu. The three times is Guddu. I have explained it in the Kundli thread. Hope you like it but if not do come with other suggestions.

Since Simran brought the Bar and rain scene up I thought that I will try to put that one in context.

I put it in the context of Runjhun Serching or looking for Guddu.
She went to him after the police took Guddu to take back the police complaint. Guddu refused her help.

Second time She goes to take Guddu back from the Bar and waits out side. She gets wet in the rain and faints. Guddu who initially said that he will never come back to PN carries her home.

Third time Runjhun went looking for Guddu is after the first Bidaai. Guddu has already left so she did not found him.

Here we see that Runjhun did not succeed any of the three times its Guddu who decided to bring back her to PN. at one occaision. So Runjhun could not make him do what she wanted he decided to do it. With every time she threatens him with waiting for him he relents but thats his decision not hers.

Yes lots of water imagery. I was discussing this with Agin today. Have to think about this but faucets, her head being dunked in water, the lake that held the kundali all seem important.

Originally posted by: jpalagrawal

Yes lots of water imagery. I was discussing this with Agin today. Have to think about this but faucets, her head being dunked in water, the lake that held the kundali all seem important.

i'm posting links to two articles that might help. they do not directly relate to the show, but they may provide insights that can be used to help understand the many fluid (and food) images in the show lately. please note that this particular track of analysis is only one interpretation. there may be others following a different track.

this is from the hindu perspective:
http://www.nepjol.info/index.php/DSAJ/article/viewFile/1360/1336
please pay very close attention to fig 1: fluid attributions and metaphors

this is from the judeo-christian perspective:
http://philliphigley.com/2011/02/03/water-sex-and-the-folly-of-adultery-in-proverbs-515-18/

edited:

additional links:
http://appweb.cortland.edu/ojs/index.php/Wagadu/article/viewFile/250/463

(this next week is a blog entry, but i think it's worth to look at the insights of the womb symbols)
http://guidoworld.com/blog/sexual-symbols-female/

I was waiting that someone else would write about the door but no one did so I take it upon me.
I start When Guddu is cleaning his bike and washing it. Runjhun gaze at him throught the open door. Guddu is on the other side of the door. She admires him. He see her when he is at the threshold. He stops and then proceed. Runjhun goes in Guddu follows and close the door. The outer door is open and Leela chachi walks in.

Guddu takes Leela chachi on his bike and Runjhun closes the door.
Three times Guddu comes and knocks and Runjhun opens but he did not stay.
Fourth time after the knock it is Runjhuns mamis who are there.

When Guddu comes back its the fourth time that he comes in after he left with Leela Chachi and Runjhun has changed her mind and they fight.

Now to look at the events. It seems that Guddu will be abel to save Runjhun Three times but the fourth time the mama mamis will succeed. Runjhun will not belive him and they will part ways as Guddu slept on the porch.

any other interpretations.???