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Posted: 7 years ago
@shruthiravi, pandit frankly disappointe a little bit - he didn't give that look as his eyes right now roll out😆
Yes, Duffer continues to pour his loud pathos speeches. Dusky trusts Duffer, hah. And these two are waiting for Maya's execution. Yeah what are two, a whole crowd of thirst to build their own happiness over dead Maya's body
And the dead body not falls upon the sacred fire. Guys, super-extra-special friends, your savage human sacrifice in order that your wedding sucess is not accepted
Jhanvi just without comment. Her daughter wasn't executed, she was given a life sentence - what a tragedy. Lucifer himself is shocked by this creature

Only Maya can go to the death penalty in such way. Only Maya
But I'm wondering when it's finally definitive and irrevocable that these damn 3 days will pass and Maya Arjun Sharma will die once and for all
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Posted: 7 years ago

Originally posted by: shruthiravi

@fernandes every mytho story is about perception breaking, illusion breaking. Asuras in any form has perception that is why they take boons and the God come in the form which they thought not possible to defeat them and kill them. So when we take concept of any story, we take it from the boon and boon breaking.

For Mahisharua it was his perception that a woman cannot defeat him, Durga broke it. A woman himself defeated it.

For Mahishi it was her belief that son of Hari and Hara is not possible, ie son of Vishnu and Shiva. But Vishnu becomes Mohini and Ayyappa is born and her death comes to her.

For Ravana his boon was he will not be killed humans and monkeys as he considered them far less powerful to kill a powerful man like him. Narayan comes as Ram crossing the ocean, along with Rudra's amsavatar Hanuman and finishes off that perception.

If you go to Hiranyakashyapu how many of his perceptions Narayan breaks with Narasimhaavatar. This man had the boon he will not be killed during day and night, neither inside nor outside, neither man or animal, nor devas or asuras, neither on earth nor on sky, neither with hands nor with weapons. Narasimha comes at dusk, takes him to threshold, keeps him on his lap, and kills him with his nails. The most painful death you can imagine.

So if you take any mytho story it is not good over evil. It is the idea of perceived truth vs actual truth. It always shows asuras has perceived truths and Narayan's job is to ensure that perceived truth meets its end at the right time.

And it depends on what concept you take, you will see the perceived truth and actual truth of the situation.

If it is Vijayadashami it is the victory of feminine over masculine. If it is Dusshera it is the victory of a man over an asur, if you take Diwali, it is celebrated as Ram returning to Ayodhya or freedom for those ladies from Narakasura's prison , basically it is returning of light after darkness. Freedom after captivity.

Sanathana Dharma has its concepts, and each story, each festival is connected with the concept. That's why there are so many stories, but in the end everything is about freedom from darkness, freedom from illusions, freedom from perceived truth.

As the line goes tamosama jyothirgamaya
Asothama satgamaya
Mrityoma Amruthamgamaya.

Guide me from darkness to light, guide me from lie to truth and guide me from death to life. Paths different, but theme same. Whichever path taken, that path has to be consistent.


Glad that you have put this Shruthi di
That every mytho is about perception breaking n reality coming in front of everyone.


I am seeing this show has a tendency of comparing Maya to Ravan many times (the jailor recently compared to Ravan I guess), TBH I don't even mind her being referred as Ravan, but I always wonder where is "Ram" in this story ? 😕 it's certainly not Saanjh /Arjun/Jhanvi the reason is
Ram didn't kill Ravan but he liberated him from his ego. Ravan was none other than Vishnu's gatekeeper Jay's birth same with n Hiranyakashyapu n Shishupal who were killed by Ram, Narsimha n Krishna resp. ... This shows that every demon is a part of God Himself. They need to be liberated from their darkness.
Maya is Ravan.. like Ravan was a great bhakt of shiv Maya also is a great bhakt of Ganesh but Ravan's ego n Maya's obsession killed their soul.
Unlike Saanjh/Arjun who always bad-mouth abt Maya, Ram never treated Ravan as a demon. Ram's first impression abt Ravan was that he is a great Shiva bhakt like him n a scholar. When Ravan abducted Sita, he did get angry (that's human nature) but later he calmed down n yes his views didn't change abt Ravan. Finally after defeating him, he sent Lakshman to receive his knowledge, got his proper last rites done. Many versions even say that Ram even did a heavy penance for killing a Brahman.

What I don't understand is this in this show Arjun / Jhanvi are waiting for Maya to die, neither they want her last rites to be done. Even if Maya is evil one can't ignore she was an intelligent corporate shark. She was a loving daughter in s1 , and earlier was a devoted lover too till her love became obsession for various reasons.. Saanjh always treated her as a mentally ill criminal. So how are these people as righteous as Ram? Ravan couldn't be killed by Indra or any deva or any other human being or king of that era. Ravan could be killed only by Ram . And to defeat Maya , Saanjh/Arjun/Jhanvi need to be righteous n not hypocrite.


Now even if Lord Vishnu uses mystic ways to ensure the victory of truth, he doesn't crib n cry over what he did. He is always ready to face the consequences of what he did. Krishna accepting Gandhari's curse n Ram accepting the blame to banish Sita for his kingdom are proofs.
Saanjh / Arjun /Jhanvi ka I see cribbing crying blaming Maya 😆 Maya killed my papa, Maya killed my mummy, Maya killed my husband (though the husband was a jerk🤢) Maya killed my baby ... Lol Arjun dearest u only went to marry Maya right, went against your mom to marry her then why crying now?
All they want is their image should be stainless in the society😆

Anyway I do want Maya to lose. Though victory of good over evil sounds boring n old fashioned, I do want it to happen. But who is the good person here? 😆😆
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Posted: 7 years ago
Yes Laska he couldnt beat Vandana Mata's hysterics 😆😆. Yes human slaughter for the so called divine wedding is not accepted. 😃 and it is a very sad thing.
Actually 2 days back I watched a Malayalam movie Adam Joan. Movie is a thriller with devil worship in the back drop. When I watched the movie I was thinking of Beyhadh. People had no qualms listening to Ashwin, but when they are feeling Ashwin they are terrified.
It also has person worshiping Lucifer, but when his child disappears and kept at ransom, when he is shown what Lucifer is, Jesus ki yaad aati hai 😆😆
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Posted: 7 years ago

Originally posted by: shruthiravi

@Fernandes Darr cannot be compared to this because in Darr Kiran never loved Rahul, it was plain one sided love and obsession. Here Arjun had gone and thrown colors on Maya. He gave her dress. He proposed her, he married her, had relation with her, she was pregnant with his baby and after all this funda, he claims to love his best friend.

Even in KKHH, Rahul comes back to Anjali 8 years post his wife's death. He was never into contact with his bestie neither does Kajol visit him post his marriage with Tina. Though I dont like Rahul of KKHH he in any day is far better than Arjun at this point. Atleast he didnt marry over the pyre of his first wife and yes Rahul did love Tina.

This can be partly compared to Aitraaz, but there Kareena is the fighter for Akshay kumar against Priyanka's character. And Kareena fights. Here Saanjh does theatrics. Also Akshay's character was completely right as far as the case goes. Here Arjun is not " Maine kuch nahi kiya", he has done enough funda, over and above has gone and instigated Maya also.

So beyhadh is in its own league, basically because of the very weak characterization of Saanjeshwari Devi and the pendulum Arjun whom we are not sure what he wants. Aaj Maya tho Kal Saanjh.

When I thought about comparing with Darr, it was only restricted to 'darr' part!
I mean, kiran was really s*it-scared, when Rahul was chasing her, after her marriage with Deol!
Will Maya also be scaring Saanjh to death, before she meets her final end like Sharukh khan had?
Maya may not be able to kill Saanjh or Arjun! But she can knock out the s*it, by scaring them every day! If they are dying every minute, it completes her badala!
We may have roughly 15 episodes after shadhi track gets over!
Will JW be able to re-create & bring back the memorable performance by Sharukh Khan?
That was a master class portrayal then by Sharukh! JW did a wonderful presentation of Maya till she went to Jail! Now, is the opportunity to finish off her character in great style & also with lasting impact!
She has the talent to show-case, if an opportunity is given, but I don't know what Cvs are upto!


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Posted: 7 years ago
@aditi without Ram, how can you say Ravan. That is first thing we have to understand. Ravan is bad because Ram the Maryada Purushottam is there. If you remember my SKR analysis I had written the path crossing of both Ram and Ravan.
And no one has the right to call another Ravan, if you dont have the qualities of Ram. When Maya is being called Ravan many it is like she is the only bad one in the show. She is not. Her punishment is there, but the show can never be complete without giving punishment to those who created this monster out of her.

And most importantly you rightly told, in death all enemity ends. That's the quality of a human. Here the so called humans Jhanvi/Saanjh/Arjun dancing for their wedding over the pyre. Where is the difference in them, where is humanity or empathy in them. I am not against them marrying. Marry if you want to. But going to a woman on a death row, again and again instigating her and when noose is put on her, you garland each other, and how can you expect such people to be called humans, if Maya is to be called devil incarnate. In the whole story Maya has not acted, she has always reacted. Arjun went to Maya in season 1, Saanjh went to Arya relation in season 2, Arjun bought Saanjh to their relation in season 3. Maya went from bad to worse to worst in each of these seasons. After doing so much tamasha knowing fully well her insecurities these so called humans want to dance over her pyre, with utter lack of dignity or respect to a woman who has build F&C which should be given post her death if you have human quality.

Thar's why I loved the Malayalam movie Adam Joan very much. Which showed the difference between a Ravan in Ram's dress and Ram himself. That human touch you can never miss in the story. The protoganist of the show also doesnt know whether he would get his little girl alive from the devil worshippers, but it was touching to see him telling his friend, if he doesnt come, give the girl he had abducted back to her mother, because another death can never bring back his daughter. A decision of a father who might face the brutal execution of his 7 year old in the hands of the father of the abducted girl and his group, brings out what is being devil and what is being human means. That one scene elevates Adam to human, the next one literally makes him God.Because only God can take such a decision, a human cannot. That you have to watch the movie. Unfortunately none of the so called mahan characters of Beyhadh Saanh, Arjun or Jhanvi display this quality.

Exactly your point, winning of good over evil, who is good here😆😆
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Guys what should I do. Laugh. Because I cannot help it. Remember 7th vow Dusky made for Arya, the hand she kept in between. Love is not about dying together, it is about living together. She gave that gyan to Maya. Today Dusky what happened. Arjun chose death with you. He told instead of going away from you it is better to die together. Where is life Dusky and everyone was crying as if hearing the greatest melodrama. Hear it right Dusky, with marriage to you, Arjun has chosen death. And what does Jhanvi calls you. lakshmi. Lakshmi is life not death. A man chooses life with Lakshmi and if he chooses death with someone she cannot be Lakshmi. Arjun tells another classic dialogue, you gave life, so you have right on my life. Arrey same thing Maya told. Jaan de bhi sakthi hai, jaan le bhi sakthi hai. But it is the biggest irony the woman who talked about life in marriage her husband has chosen death by marrying her.

And look the marriage, when Maya was walking in front for all 7 vows people were shouting.Today Arjun forcefully took Saanjh against her wishes and did 7 rounds. Everyone was crying. So it is fine if a man forcefully marries a woman, it is a problem only when a woman does that.In reality in Arya marriage Arjun doesnt had to do anything, he got everything when he followed Maya. Free house, free CEO post, free car everything easy, he just had to follow her like a dog. Look today, he carried his bride on his shoulder. He is going to carry the weight of this relationship. No Dusky cannot do anything. It is evident. When milk spills she is terrified, even when Maya is not there, she feels the presence of Maya and is terrified. So Arjun will have to take the burden of this relationship, the carrying signified that. It is also not right. A balanced marriage is where partners share their chores, when one cannot drive, other take charge, when one cannot carry the other carry, burden is shifted on both shoulders, as and when needed one is in front and other follow. A marriage in which Maya walked all 7 rounds in front is not right and also a marriage in which Arjun carried Saanjh is also not right. When will we see balance. Once again the lines Utthista kamalakanta trilokam mangalam kuru. Only when Narayan wakes up the balance happens, because when he wakes up we will see Lakshmi who walks with him, neither ahead nor behind. We cannot see Sree, till we see Sreedhar.

Another thing Saanjh herself told she has broken the trust, she took away and threw the garland Arjun put on her. Even in entire marriage Saanjh didnt had the garland. Between the love of Arjun and Maya's fear Saanjh has chosen fear. She undid the ghatbandhan and she threw away the garland. It shows that marriage will have inherent flaws and she will not be able to accept the beyhadh love of Arjun.

Now coming to Jhanvi. Where did the kankan come. They were not there during Maya's wedding. Does someone remember Jhanvi giving something of that sort to Maya. Ok Jhanvi can tell Maya is not her daughter now, but what about Maya's wedding. At that time she was Jhanvi's daughter. If those kankan were not given to Maya then, I cant simply wash them off as coincidence suddenly appearing from now where, especially the fact this woman had never tried to save the child Maya and didnt do anything solid to remove that child's fear. She pushed this girl to Arjun and made her a living corpse. And now to remove Saanjh's fear she is asking jailor to kill Maya.

Yes everyone want Maya's death now. Go, go to kill Maya. When each time you go to kill her, each mask will fall. You were all living at the mercy of Maya or illusion. So jail inmates are killed by the whims and fancies of the jailor madam and she is making hungama of calling Maya Ravan and what not. But then it will be fun to watch. Kill Maya mission.

Maya finally she tells no more tears, the one who doesnt understand your love, doesnt deserve your tears. Yes Maya, Arjun doesnt deserve your tears. you have cried enough for him, you have committed enough crimes for him. Now stop. Enough. he has given your place to someone else.
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Posted: 7 years ago
Mother can give life! So, she has the right to take life, also!
Is it sounding familiar?
This was one of Maya's famous quotable quotes when she made an attempt on Jhanvi's life, some time back, by trying to drown her in bath tub!
Now, history is set to repeat itself even as the tables are turned!
A biological mother (Jhanvi is otherwise not interested in owning up Maya as her daughter!) of Maya is bribing the jailor to finish off her blood-daughter in Jail as she wants to protect her another daughter, Saanjh, never mind even if she is only an adopted one!
What can one say about that? Is it a weird motherly love?
Or, Jhanvi is just proving that her surname is also a notorious Mehrotra, keeping a family trait intact!
She might not succeed in her mission but surely her criminal intent & act is not going to help her live long!
If Maya is punished for murdering someone, then Jhanvi too is no less a criminal and hence invites herself to be punished!
And so, no doubt, Jhanvi's time is up! Maya will make sure Jhanvi too pays her dues!
In Beyhadh land, Justice system works amazingly pretty efficient!
The only complaint is going to be a disproportionate sense of punishment to crimes committed!
If you commit one murder, you will also get your due, without holding back anything!
Rajiv killed only one person -Prem, so he was killed!
Vandana allegedly caused the death of Bandar! So, she had to die!
Ashwin tried to kill Arjun! so, he too died!
But, Maya killed how many? 3 or 4 or more, as the tally keeps only mounting over her life time. . .
And, she is destined to live in this world as long as she wishes to!
After all, she is like Bhishma! Not Bhishma. . . just like him!
The great patriarch of Panadvs & Gauravs, had one boon given by his father!
That is his death could come near to him only if & when he chose it!
So, Bhishma was lying in bed of arrows for nearly six months when he was defeated in his battle with Arjuna - waiting for a good time to die - after the epic war was over!
Hopefully, Maya may perhaps do a similar thing once her war with Arjun also comes to an end!
It is only a hope, as nobody is sure when & how Maya can die, if at all such an event were to happen!
Till then, not jhanvi, not jailor, not any one can do anything to Maya!
It is Maya's writ running all the way in this world! Even, god is on her side! At least, that is what she said when the noose failed to tighten around her neck, at the last minute intervention of some unknown NGO, when the main victims of her crimes have no clue about it! Even the Jailor knows nothing as she mumbles while escorting Maya back to her cell!
How on the earth anyone is expected to know, how she escaped death?
By the way, Saanjh was supposed to be a criminal lawyer who pleaded against Maya in this case!
She did not have even an inkling about it!
Strange legal & Justice systems at play! We are too tired of laughing at these nonsensical stuff!
So, we can do nothing except just keep saying,
Sab Maya hai! Sab Maya hai!

Edited by Fernandes43 - 7 years ago
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Things that attracted my attention today. Jhanvi had no money for security as Maya doesn't give her anything but came up with a hefty sum to bribe the jailor to kill her. She even came up wid two gold Kangans. If u love ur daughter so much u cud hv exchanged One of them for money and keptsecurity for your new daughter.
Arjun looks fishy as ever. Or maybe it's KTs expressionless face but who did he go to call? Apshagun 2happened with the spilling of the milk but as there was no Vandana mata everyone kept chill and no eye popping g expression.
Saanjh is getting scared every second and I am loving this. A newly Wed bride who doesn't evn have a bit of sindoor in her maang.
I don't know but I am just loving ing the current track and somehow understanding why it was Jens favourite.
The biggest of all is Maya has now decided not to shed a single tear for Arjun.


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Posted: 7 years ago
@fernandes just tell me one thing. Did Jhanvi give those kankan to Maya on her wedding day. She can do whatever she wants now. Like daughter, like mother. But do you remember her giving kandani kankan to Maya on her wedding with Arjun.
@lepcha exactly Jhanvi was telling no money for arranging Saanjh's security. But money came as well as the bangles, most importantly the khandhani bangles as far as I could remember were not given to Maya on her wedding day. If it is for the daughter of the house why not for Maya on her wedding day in season 1. Why. I cannot but go back to factfictionmyth suspicion of why Jhanvi met Arjun alone and ate butta, what did they talk.
Arjun going to call someone. Well I noted it completely. It was an interesting loophole. Exactly not a bit of sindoor in Saanjh's maang. Also did you notice Saanjh took the garland and threw away. When pheras happened she didnt had garland, not even when Arjun tied mangalsutra or put sindoor.
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Originally posted by: shruthiravi

@fernandes just tell me one thing. Did Jhanvi give those kankan to Maya on her wedding day. She can do whatever she wants now. Like daughter, like mother. But do you remember her giving kandani kankan to Maya on her wedding with Arjun.

@lepcha exactly Jhanvi was telling no money for arranging Saanjh's security. But money came as well as the bangles, most importantly the khandhani bangles as far as I could remember were not given to Maya on her wedding day. If it is for the daughter of the house why not for Maya on her wedding day in season 1. Why. I cannot but go back to factfictionmyth suspicion of why Jhanvi met Arjun alone and ate butta, what did they talk.
Arjun going to call someone. Well I noted it completely. It was an interesting loophole. Exactly not a bit of sindoor in Saanjh's maang. Also did you notice Saanjh took the garland and threw away. When pheras happened she didnt had garland, not even when Arjun tied mangalsutra or put sindoor.

On that day too many events happened, in quick time!
Ashwin terrified Jhanvi, first by blackmailing her! Then he died mysteriously! Shadhi was stopped initially, then proceeded amidst fire & chaos!
Then Police came in scene!
So, it is possible that giving Kankan to Maya was perhaps the last thing on Jhanvi's mind under those weird circumstances!

Now, on the point of lack of adequate Sindhoor on the Maang of saanjh,
Can we assume, it became invisible as both Saanjh & Arjun were too scared of maya's threat?!
Remember what maya said!
The day Arjun places sindhoor on her forehead, Saanjh has to prepare herself for his last rites, too!
So, no sindhoor and no one will have to worry about Maya's threat!
But, still Saanjh is terrified!
She is condemned to start her marital life under fear of imminent death stalking Arjun, any moment, while Maya is condemned to live in Jail for her entire life, under constant thoughts of her failed marriage with arjun!




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