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poppinss

@poppinss

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Posted: 8 years ago

#11

Originally posted by: anshvi
Neither the story has changed nor the CVs have lost their mind...it was always intended to show Maya as a dark character...most of the viewers had predicted that Maya did frame Ayaan.

Maya framed the entire thing

The mistake Ayaan did was that he went without the police and the moment he saw his own brother in such a state he lost his cool and uttered those words when Maya hid the keys.

When a person in anger utters that I will kill u it doesn't mean that he willived literally kill someone...people do say a lot of mean stuff when they are angry.

Ayaan's anger after seeing his brother's condition was justified and he lost his cool when Maya hid the keys.

He shouldn't have said what he said...that was wrong but he never intended to harm Maya sexually or physically and this has been cleared in the show and there is no doubt about that.

He did not deliberately tore Maya's sleeves..it was more of a tussle.

Max to max he should have been fined for what he did...he has been punished for a crime he didn't commit.

Maya will go more dark as the story will progress and she will cross all limits for her Beyhadh love.

It is a dark psychological thriller at the end of the day.

Anshvi, its a thin line. Between saying and doing... Ayaan was drunk, he had flirted at Maya at some point. What if he had crossed that line? Would any girl want to wait, watch and decide? Especially Maya who is averse to people touching her?

He would have been the perfect guy had he stood there and called the police. He did not have a right to be in Maya's property or touching her to get the key... or even not touching her to get the key. Legally not right at all.

Not at all saying Maya is not dark. That is established with the last episode. But the others are no saints. They talk something and do something else.

Edited by poppinss - 8 years ago

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Mandira17

@Mandira17

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Posted: 8 years ago

#12

I actually like Maya's character. I don't think they changed it or anything. Because this was never a romance show with the perfect girl. It's a thriller with a flawed character.

There are lot of Hollywood shows were the main character, the protagonist is actually the antagonist. For example Breaking bad, Dexter, death note. The character in these shows aren't the perfect guys but you can't help but love them anyways.

Nobody is perfect. Maya definitely is not. The only difference is that Indian society is so used to perfect bahu and beti's that they can't digest the fact that there are girls who can be your biggest nightmare. Who can fake herself being raped or won't hesitate to kill you. We used to see the world from the protagonist eyes always. It's the first show where we are looking through an antagonist and that's why we are so disgusted. But the truth is people like these do exist. We haven't just met any yet.

They aren't trying to set Maya as an idea person. That's what i feel.

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tanvismile

@tanvismile

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Posted: 8 years ago

#13

If one just focuses on ayaan words, one can misinterpret it the way u want, to see wrong or right, one has to see the whole picture.

Ayaan dealt maya as an equal, women like maya just use women card to their advantage. That time they remember they are women.

Tomorrow if arjun hits maya will not be wrong because maya broke vandana s hand.

So one has to see the actions of both the individuals and accordingly judge

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anshvi

@anshvi

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Posted: 8 years ago

#14

Originally posted by: poppinss

Anshvi, its a thin line. Between saying and doing... Ayaan was drunk, he had flirted at Maya at some point. What if he had crossed that line? Would any girl want to wait, watch and decide? Especially Maya who is averse to people touching her?

He would have been the perfect guy had he stood there and called the police. He did not have a right to be in Maya's property or touching her to get the key... or even not touching her to get the key. Legally not right at all.

Yes he should have brought the police and should have not used those words and should have let go the moment he saw Maya hid those keys in her blouse...that was wrong ! It was foolish of him to say the least.

But Maya was wrong as well...she hid the keys..if u noticed he kept instigating Ayan by saying. 'Accha hua Arjun ne tumhe chodh diya' and such dialogues...she kept running and screaming and throwing things around...She planned this all...it was a well planned cold and calculative move of Maya.

She is a manipulator and people react the way she wants or assumes them they would..she is an intelligent woman and is able to gauge people's reactions in various ...and she is able to use foolishness of Ayaan and even others like Saanjh and Vandana to her own advantage !

Maya did not think that Ayaan might rape him coz Ayaan's intention was not that...she faked the entire thing.

Also what u r saying is hypothetical in this case coz here Maya had hid the keys and at that point Ayaan said 'tumhe kya lagta hai tum aisa kar ke Bach jaoegi..mujhe fark nahi padtha '

I understand what u r saying that if a guy was drunk and had said those words and maybe after that try to do something the girl ofcourse might think that he has bad intentions and she has every right to think that...u r absoultely right !

But we have to understand that this situation and the one u said are different...here Maya had planned the entire thing , she hid the keys , then kept instigating Ayaan saying those things and then finally kicked him...it was her interntion to trap him.

Ayaan's intention was not rape at all but her way of handling this situation was rather foolish and immature !

And poor fellow has paid the price..Infact more than what he deserved...he is imprisoned for a hineous crime he did not commit.

Edited by anshvi - 8 years ago

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anshvi

@anshvi

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Posted: 8 years ago

#15

Not at all saying Maya is not dark. That is established with the last episode. But the others are no saints. They talk something and do something else.

I agree wid d bold part and that is what makes this show unique

None of the characters are pure white

Infact all are quite real and in real life no one is white or perfect but flawed

Beyhadh characters are also flawed and all have made their fair share of mistakes.

Vandana ill-treated Maya and got punished too..her son got jailed and other son left her..got physically tortured by Maya

Ayaan - got punished for a crime he did not commit

Saanjh - got slapped by Arjun and is going to get engaged to a pycho

Arjun - is living in a golden cage where he has no free will.

All of these characters made mistakes and got punished too infact more than what they deserved.

The mistakes they made were all human mistakes and not henious crimes...but they were mistakes indeed.

Now coming to Maya...she needs treatment..and she has also commited mistakes and some of them like falsely accusing someone of rape and physically torturing someone are more than mere human mistakes..they come under the category of crime.

All of them are flawed and their mistakes vary in degree...like one cannot compare a slapping with stabbing.

And as I said I love the way the show is going...It was always supposed to be a dark thriller and I hope it stays this way.

I won't be surprised if the show and Maya's character gets more darker.

I find Maya quite intriguing and it would be interesting to watch her journey.

I know she is dark and there is no harm in accepting that and the wrong she does.

She is after all a complex lead character.

Edited by anshvi - 8 years ago

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kavita

@kavitha_r

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Posted: 8 years ago

#16

Originally posted by: anshvi

Yes he should have brought the police and should have not used those words and should have let go the moment he saw Maya hid those keys in her blouse...that was wrong ! It was foolish of him to say the least.

But Maya was wrong as well...she hid the keys..if u noticed he kept instigating Ayan by saying. 'Accha hua Arjun ne tumhe chodh diya' and such dialogues...she kept running and screaming and throwing things around...She planned this all...it was a well planned cold and calculative move of Maya.

She is a manipulator and people react the way she wants or assumes them they would..she is an intelligent woman and is able to gauge people's reactions in various ...and she is able to use foolishness of Ayaan and even others like Saanjh and Vandana to her own advantage !

Maya did not think that Ayaan might rape him coz Ayaan's intention was not that...she faked the entire thing.

Also what u r saying is hypothetical in this case coz here Maya had hid the keys and at that point Ayaan said 'tumhe kya lagta hai tum aisa kar ke Bach jaoegi..mujhe fark nahi padtha '

I understand what u r saying that if a guy was drunk and had said those words and maybe after that try to do something the girl ofcourse might think that he has bad intentions and she has every right to think that...u r absoultely right !

But we have to understand that this situation and the one u said are different...here Maya had planned the entire thing , she hid the keys , then kept instigating Ayaan saying those things and then finally kicked him...it was her interntion to trap him.

Ayaan's intention was not rape at all but her way of handling this situation was rather foolish and immature !
And poor fellow has paid the price..Infact more than what he deserved...he is imprisoned for a hineous crime he did not commit.

What Maya did was wrong. No second thoughts about it. Arjun had warned Ayaan that Maya is dangerous and can go to any extent. So Ayaan should have behaved sensibly. Just cos she has kept the keys in her under garments, that does not mean that he has to take it from there.

Maya didn't even know that Ayaan would go to this extent. So she had planned it on the spot. Maya is an evil genius as of now but other characters are not saints.

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anshvi

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Posted: 8 years ago

#17

Originally posted by: kavsy

What Maya did was wrong. No second thoughts about it. Arjun had warned Ayaan that Maya is dangerous and can go to any extent. So Ayaan should have behaved sensibly. Just cos she has kept the keys in her under garments, that does not mean that he has to take it from there.

Maya didn't even know that Ayaan would go to this extent. So she had planned it on the spot. Maya is an evil genius as of now but other characters are not saints.

Yes and that is what I have explained in the above post

All of them are flawed..all r real characters who are flawed and not white

All of them have done their fair share of mistakes and have paid a bigger price and punishment than they deserve

Yes what Ayan did was foolish and immature and poor fellow has paid for it too .he is in prison for a crime he did not even commit.

But to say that Maya was not aware of what he will do..she was very well aware of it.

She tied Arjun , locked her mom and then hid the keys...she is an intelligent woman..she planned the entire thing.

And yes Maya is also wrong..some of her acts come under the category of crime.

Edited by anshvi - 8 years ago

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FlauntPesimism

@FlauntPessimism

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Posted: 8 years ago

#18

Originally posted by: kavsy

Rape is one of the so called maut se bhi buri haalat for a woman. Even if the keys are inside her tits, how can he do that for the keys? I agree that his intention was to take his brother away but he could have handled this matter sensibly. He could have gone with Saanjh to the cops and lodged a complaint on her. It would have solved the problem.

Those words are very much unconvincing.

Yes true that r**e is ONE OF THE so called buri halat and not the only maut se buri halat and Ayan had meant something other

About the actions of Ayan that is no where justified and I have always condemned him

But yes a physical abuser doesn't deserve the punishment of a r**ist

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InsaneDivine

@InsaneDivine

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Posted: 8 years ago

#19

That scene has been very unconvincingly picturized.. I have accepted that they want to show Maya as the one who framed Ayaan and Ayaan is innocent but even then I have not been able to accept that Ayaan didn't intend to assault her sexually..

Chalo sab maan liya, that Ayaan spoke those words in fury and accidentally tore her clothes but what about this expression.. How to decode this ?? Was this only to create confusion in the minds of the viewers.. 😲 Not quite impressed with their move..

Edited by .Fragrance. - 8 years ago

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anshvi

@anshvi

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Posted: 8 years ago

#20

Originally posted by: .Fragrance.
That scene has been very unconvincingly picturized.. I have accepted that they want to show Maya as the one who framed Ayaan and Ayaan is innocent but even then I have not been able to accept that Ayaan didn't intend to assault her sexually..

Chalo sab maan liya, that Ayaan spoke those words in fury and accidentally tore her clothes but what about this expression.. How to decode this ?? Was this only to create confusion in the minds of the viewers.. 😲 Not quite impressed with their move..

This expression so far I remember was after Maya had hid the keys in the blouse which was not shown when this scene was first aired and after this Ayaan said 'tumhe kya lagta hai ye harkat karke tum Bach jaoegi...mujhe koi fark nahi padtha or something like this'

So most of the the viewers thought that he had some other intentions.

It was only cleared after it was shown that she had hid the keys and Ayaan had said that line after she hid the keys...tumhe kya lagta hai ye harkat karke tum Bach jaoegi..here 'harkat' meant hiding of the keys while that time it appeared that he was talking about Arjun.

Similarly we got to know that Maya had indeed kicked Ayaan later not during the first time.

If we had known everything the first time then there would have been no thrill , no suspense and no ambiguity.

That time ambiguity was created by the CVs deliberately to create suspense regarding who is right and who is wrong and then they slowly unfolded the entire truth and what actually transpired that day.

This is what a thriller is supposed to be...to create ambiguity in the minds of the viewers..to play with our perceptions and to create suspense and then unfold it gradually.

Edited by anshvi - 8 years ago

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