Dance of Time and Illusion ( Episode Analysis)Part 30updated DTNTPg131 - Page 37

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Posted: 8 years ago
I had always doubted Samay and today my doubts got confirmed..he is also obsessed and can got the extent of killing to achieve what he wants.

Disappointed with Saanjh ...I am really not sure if this was the right time to discuss and choose ur love life over getting justice for Ayaan
How can she leave Vandana and Ayaan now when they need her the most.

Also I expected Suman and Prem to put some sense in their daughter by asking her to concentrate on getting justice for Ayaan rather than supporting her decision of staying away from Sharma family
I hope some sense is put into her and she realises that getting justice for Ayaan should he her priority.

Felt bad for Vandana too...she is left alone...I wonder how will Ayaan react once he finds out that his mom has suffered a heart attack.

Edited by anshvi - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: MistyDawn

Samay wants Maya but he can not sit back and wait for the marriage to just break on its own.. Their marriage hit the lowest of low in these three years and yet it didn't break because Maya won't leave Arjun.. so I don't know how Samay assumes that she's playing a game of marriage and that it will break just like that on its own.. Samay can do whatever he wants to prove his love and loyalty to Maya but she is never going to give him the place she has given to Arjun in her life..even if he kills Arjun..Maya would rather die than be with someone else.. So what is that Samay wants Maya for? or is he as delusional or maybe even more than Maya.. Sooner or later Saanjh will come to know of his real intentions and all the drama he's doing at Mathur's.. that may give her the lead to trace back into Maya's life..

I agree with what you said about Saanjh.. So Arjun is the thread that binds her to Sharma family? No Arjun no bonding with anyone in that house ? All that love and support for Vandana aunty, Ayaan se dosti, all gone because now she realized Arjun can not be hers? so what's the point of meddling in their matters when she can not get what she wants huh? She even stopped her mother to console Vandana.. Why? They are like friends and sisters ..why should Saanjh decide whether her mother should talk to her friend and why should Suman listen to her? Did Saanjh ever listen to to her parents? Was this the time to abandon her favorite Vandana aunty when she has no one with her? If not as friend cum family as they have been in the past, she should atleast be a responsible lawyer.. she didn't mention Ayaan even once since she lost the case. It was all about losing to Maya and mera duffer fir se akela ho gaya..!! LOL What about Ayaan who is in jail? any responsibility towards him Miss Lawyer? maybe think about his bail? or Arjun is the only incentive that can get her to perform her duties..?



u know all this while, I was thinking when will Saanjh move on with her own life and forget her duffer, today she did but with so much collateral damage..for the first time today, I genuinely felt bad for VM bcoz she is so lonely..she lost both her sons, her reason to live pretty much..its all gone and if Saanjh cannot be there as her so called daughter, at least as a lawyer she has that responsibility to console her client and be there for her...it was indeed a bad move on Saanjh's part..wish CVs didnt show her in such light..

Coming to Samay, the man! I dont understand him at all..he has these thoughts in his mind and says these things to Saanjh but I am not sure what exactly is it that he wants coz as you mentioned there is no way in hell Maya is leaving Arjun at least in this janam! I am just not sure what I feel about Samay anymore..I guess we will find out and coming to think of that, it will be even more sad when Saanjh finds out about his truth...it will break her completely knowing that both the men she loved are in love with the same woman, the one she despises so much..

Also I agree with Shruthi about VM begging Arjun, I hate such scenes which only adds to the drama quotient..
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Posted: 8 years ago

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u know all this while, I was thinking when will Saanjh move on with her own life and forget her duffer, today she did but with so much collateral damage..for the first time today, I genuinely felt bad for VM bcoz she is so lonely..she lost both her sons, her reason to live pretty much..its all gone and if Saanjh cannot be there as her so called daughter, at least as a lawyer she has that responsibility to console her client and be there for her...it was indeed a bad move on Saanjh's part..wish CVs didnt show her in such light..

Coming to Samay, the man! I dont understand him at all..he has these thoughts in his mind and says these things to Saanjh but I am not sure what exactly is it that he wants coz as you mentioned there is no way in hell Maya is leaving Arjun at least in this janam! I am just not sure what I feel about Samay anymore..I guess we will find out and coming to think of that, it will be even more sad when Saanjh finds out about his truth...it will break her completely knowing that both the men she loved are in love with the same woman, the one she despises so much..

Also I agree with Shruthi about VM begging Arjun, I hate such scenes which only adds to the drama quotient..


I just hope there's more to Samay's character and the track involving him with Maya..There seems to be a lot of potential in the character and the actor is quite effortless in his ways of switching from one gear to another.. He does seem like the creatives take on Desi Collins from gone girl but Samay comes across more sensible, only when not referring to Maya.. The moment Maya comes into the picture, he seems to loose perspective and comes across like any other obsessed lover with no ulterior motive but to own the girl.. Point is if he knows Maya that well and also saw firsthand how much loyal she is for Arjun, how is he expecting Maya to leave Arjun and run into his arms? What is that he wanted to explain to Maya when he was begging for a chance in her office? Now that he sort of helped her in this case, will he get that chance? Maybe then we can understand what exactly transpired between the two 8 years back..

Saanjh may think or pretend that she has officially nothing to do with Arjun but fact is every action of hers revolves around him.. The decision of cutting ties with Vandana was also because of Arjun in a way..because she felt that she needs to focus on her life and not Arjun or anyone related to him.. this is as much of a farce as it is to think that Samay can make her forget Arjun and she can pretend to be happy with him.. She doesn't love Samay..he's just a rebound and Samay knows that but doesn't care coz he doesn't love her either.. When Saanjh comes to know that Samay loves Maya, I think more than being hurt she will see and use this opportunity to dig into Maya's past..
Edited by MistyDawn - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
I don't understand either how Samay thinks he can win over Maya when she doesn't see anything but Arjun. What are his plans even? He seems smart, but he seems delusional for thinking she's just playing marriage game and will come to him. And omg, he was about to kill saanjh 😲 I didn't expect that. That's not right no matter how Saanjh herself is using him. She doesn't deserve that. So now maybe he isn't the murder either now that cvs showed he can kill too as murderer is usually the least expected one. Other than that, Piyush looks good with both Jenny and Aneri. He has chemistry with both. I would love if both samay and saanjh get over ArYa and instead fall for each other. They both are imperfect and like to run after married people to want them for themselves, so they deserve each other except that killing part samay was about to do and will understand each other pain too. Anyway, cvs have such a long scene with saanjh and her family. I was so bored and only watched that scene for samay. Only the beginning samay scene with saanjh was good as it was intriguing to see what Samay would do and say to her. But after that scene, the family part was boring.

About ArYa, I loved loved their scene. Again Maya was sad seeing her scars which again make me believe that she felt rape and wasn't faking. All her flash backs and reactions point toward this. Anyway, toward the end of ArYa scene, I felt bad for Arjun. Can't maya see how lonely he has become and he isn't truly happy? Felt angry and annoyed at Maya. I just wish she realizes this soon and stop her madness of separating him from everyone even if they are bad. She can try other methods to deal with such people without separating him fully from them. I can understand her where she thinks these people want to break them apart which is actually true for both vandana and saanjh ( at first after ArYa's marriage she wasn't but towards the end she too unintentionally started her inappropriate closeness with Arjun by kissing him and what not.) Ayaan, however, was just a collateral damage. But I still I hope she try other methods by making him be with his mom at least but making sure she isn't able to break them either. I want her to realize her wrongs. Will Cvs ever show that? It's getting annoying now. Someone or something needs to make her realize her wrongs in the right way, not by torturing her or putting garbage to her or calling her Kala Saya or causing her MC, etc. I want someone to show her the way in right way. What if it's Jhanvi? After she gets well, can she at least now do what mother is suppose to do which she had failed all her life?


About Vandana, I feel a bit bad for her but at the same I can't. She herself has invited all this mess. She never gave any chance to maya when Maya genuinely tried many times, and instead chose to believe one negative prediction of pandit and a child abuser. About Ayaan being jail, she didn't have anything to do with it. Saanjh shoold really really stay far away. She always creates problems whether intentionally or unintentionally. Arjun told her so many times to not come after him or talk to him, but she kept going after him to know how his marriage life is. Was so desperate to know ArYa's marriage was on rocks. She then unconsciously felt good arjun knows how Maya is mad, and started the mission of making arjun with his family. And when it backfired on her and arjun again went back to maya, she lost it and instead started her mission of defeating maya without even caring who her actual client was or what the actual case was even about. Now too she doesn't think about Ayaan at all, and now that she lost all the hope of arjun, she decides to cut all ties with sharma's family too when at least as a lawyer she can be there for them. Now Vandana even lost that one son too. Who told Saanjh to mess with their family and make the situations worse than they were ever before? Now that it's all mess, she decides to just leave it because her hope of getting arjun is gone? I don't even know what words I can use for her.she just doesn't stop.
Edited by _Darling_ - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
Samay knows once dusky enters Arya life,chaos will happen. . Arjun will break Maya trust,she would be broken and alone,that time samay can regain her trust...If some1 breaks maya trust,he knows the results..Maya is very insecure when Arjun gets surrounded by his people..Arjun was afraid to go back to his people in past years..But samay knows dusky is Arjun power,he sent her to him and achieved what he want..He made maya feel insecure and to do something..She acted according to his plan and now he will go get her friendship..Might be slight change Arjun stood for her instead of leaving her..This is what Shruthi di mentioned it as dance of time and illusion..They know each other very well and in sync with each other..
He can't do anything till the time she has Arjun as her shield but he knows dusky is Arjun power..He tricked saanj to cut her ties with VM indirectly,now VM goes to Arjun which will make Maya insecure..
Dance continues..Will he succeed or not??Let's see..Dobutful about his win,if Arjun leaves also,Maya will have their baby as her shield..Will it make her love herself and defend herself instead of self harming or she will suffer miscarriage..

His only aim to regain Maya trust and win her all over again..Dance continues
Edited by sunithi - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: sunithi

Samay knows once dusky enters Arya life,chaos will happen. . Arjun will break Maya trust,she would be broken and alone,that time samay can regain her trust...If some1 breaks maya trust,he knows the results..Maya is very insecure when Arjun gets surrounded by his people..Arjun was afraid to go back to his people in past years..But samay knows dusky is Arjun power,he sent her to him and achieved what he want..He made maya feel insecure and to do something..She acted according to his plan and now he will go get her friendship..Might be slight change Arjun stood for her instead of leaving her..This is what Shruthi di mentioned it as dance of time and illusion..They know each other very well and in sync with each other..

He can't do anything till the time she has Arjun as her shield but he knows dusky is Arjun power..He tricked saanj to cut her ties with VM indirectly,now VM goes to Arjun which will make Maya insecure..
Dance continues..Will he succeed or not??Let's see..Dobutful about his win,if Arjun leaves also,Maya will have their baby as her shield..Will it make her love herself and defend herself instead of self harming or she will suffer miscarriage..

His only aim to regain Maya trust and win her all over again..Dance continues


If Samay has indeed made Saanjh let of VM, then he has himself made situation complicated because only Arjun was the thread joining her with Sharmas. For the first time when Saanjh listened to her parents she didn't quite understand their meaning, Prem Suman only told her to let go of that burden of obsession she is carrying on her shoulder not the values she has been taught. There will be one point when Maya will have to completely break down and that is what I want so she can have peace of mind. The illusion have to break of a 9 years old girl fighting and only time(Samay) can do that. Honestly I hope CV's don't bring the child at this moment when everything is quite murky, they can bring it when this phase once Maya is on the edge of leave everything, she gets a ray of hope by child. I am surprised people on this forum thinks Maya should be childless and she cannot change, I mean🤢even worst people have change of heart when they see their child. Dusky power will bring back Arjun and fight against Maya and I mentioned this before there will be a time when Maya will have to fight wit her demons alone.
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: MistyDawn


I just hope there's more to Samay's character and the track involving him with Maya..There seems to be a lot of potential in the character and the actor is quite effortless in his ways of switching from one gear to another.. He does seem like the creatives take on Desi Collins from gone girl but Samay comes across more sensible, only when not referring to Maya.. The moment Maya comes into the picture, he seems to loose perspective and comes across like any other obsessed lover with no ulterior motive but to own the girl.. Point is if he knows Maya that well and also saw firsthand how much loyal she is for Arjun, how is he expecting Maya to leave Arjun and run into his arms? What is that he wanted to explain to Maya when he was begging for a chance in her office? Now that he sort of helped her in this case, will he get that chance? Maybe then we can understand what exactly transpired between the two 8 years back..

Saanjh may think or pretend that she has officially nothing to do with Arjun but fact is every action of hers revolves around him.. The decision of cutting ties with Vandana was also because of Arjun in a way..because she felt that she needs to focus on her life and not Arjun or anyone related to him.. this is as much of a farce as it is to think that Samay can make her forget Arjun and she can pretend to be happy with him.. She doesn't love Samay..he's just a rebound and Samay knows that but doesn't care coz he doesn't love her either.. When Saanjh comes to know that Samay loves Maya, I think more than being hurt she will see and use this opportunity to dig into Maya's past..


I am interested in knowing whats the equation between Samay and Maya. You are right. .unlike Desi Samay seems to be a sensible guy saying all the right things but when Maya comes into the picture he loses his senses and his obsession with Maya resurfaces . I just want to know what kind of relation Samay and Maya shared. ..was it only unrequited love from Samay's side and he's under the delusion that Maya will one day realize his love and come back to him or was it really a romantic relationship they shared and Samay did something murky that Maya had thrown him out of her life. Her using the word dhoka does hint towards it. If it's the latter then Samay does know Maya enough and so is sure she will come back to him some day. This Samay Maya relationship intrigues me. ...once it unfolds a lot about Maya's past will be clear.

About Vandy this is the first time I felt for her. Though her bheek mangna for his son and running with a knife made me cringe cuz I hate such kinda dramas but when Saanjh abandoned her and she went away from Mathur family doorstep... I did feel her pain and loneliness. She looked helpless. Had she handled the matter maturely as per her age... she didn't have to see this day.

Mathur family are happy in their own world. Saanjh should have r let her mom go to Vandy to console her then maybe she wouldn't have rushed to Arjuns house with a knife. Every decision of Saanjh is OTT. Arjun ko chodne bola gya tha not Vandy and Ayaan! Actually without Arjun these ppl have no value for her. I am sure also she has not yet got over Arjun. ...she always does this drama of moving on starting fresh with no Arjun but one look at Arjun or if he comes crying she will be back to square one.
I am seeing something coming... maybe I am wrong... but still I feel that after Saanjh comes to know about Samay loving Maya she might become furious and desperate. Already she thinks Maya has taken away her Arjun... Now if she finds out that even Samay is Maya's I feel her hatred for Maya will increase ten folds. She will surely be determined to bring Maya down .

Though I am 90% sure Maya has committed the murders but still a part of me wants not to believe it. If not Maya do you think there is a chance Samay might have committed the murders for her ? This guy too is capable of killing people.
Edited by TheUnique - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
Samay gave options to saanj..but he knows what saanj or maya will choose..He knows them better,that's his beauty or also Mayas .
Its saanj who opted to let go Arjun as of now,for her to go for it foremost thing was not to wipe or hear VM sob stories..Else she will go back of Arjun.she was sensible sday..

I am very sure,baby will come to play when Maya stands all alone..Otherwise that spearation won't happen.As per VM curses,Arjun has to stand alone till he is with maya..So baby is out of question..
What I meant was as per samay,Maya will react when dusky e nters,Arjun will break her trust but Arjun stood for her this time.so he can't get Maya now..Now if Arjun leaves her also,he can't get her becox of the baby..Arjun has provided her shield..Samay plans will go for toss..

Edited by sunithi - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
Guys due to time constraint I cannot answer to all your replies. I need to write an exam in 2 days 😆😆. But I have read through all the comments. Will just put a summarized thought. Dance of Saanjh and Samay is the real dance of time and illusion. This I understood yesterday. From a people perspective both of them wants to go between a married couple. Saanjh goes uninvited, Samay waits for the call. Samay looks obsesseive, he talks obsessive, yet appear sweet in front of everyone. Saanjh is sweet in front of everyone, her thoughts have the same darkness as that of Samay. She wants to seperate Arya, he wants Arya to be seperated . He knows Maya's Achilles heel, she knows Arjun's achilles heels. Saanjh can go any extend for Arjun, Samay can go any extend for Maya. Maya will go any extend for Arjun, Arjun for whom he will go beyhadh. The only person he will go beyhadh for is or was Ayan.
If the dance has to break Arjun has to go beyhadh for Ayan and Dusky has to follow him. As Dusky will come back the moment to Sharma family the moment Arjun will come for Ayan😆😆
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: sunithi

Samay gave options to saanj..but he knows what saanj or maya will choose..He knows them better,that's his beauty or also Mayas .

Its saanj who opted to let go Arjun as of now,for her to go for it foremost thing was not to wipe or hear VM sob stories..Else she will go back of Arjun.she was sensible sday..

I am very sure,baby will appear when Maya stand all alone..Otherwise that spearation won't happen.As per VM curses,Arjun has to stand alone till he is with maya..So baby is out of question..
What I meant was as per samay,Maya will react when dusky e nters,Arjun will break her trust but Arjun stood for her this time.so he can't get Maya now..Now if Arjun leaves her also,he can't get her becox of the baby..Arjun has provided her shield..Samay plans will go for toss..

An unpredictable Maya has already made two adult's life miserable! Somehow, they are learning to spend their life with her either happy or unhappy!
But, a young little baby -if it comes in her life, who can imagine its misery?
A child -given present state of affairs in Maya's house- will have most unfortunate environment, if it is to be raised in her house?
Who wants one more 'mentally affected child' due to irresponsible bringing-up problems?

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