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pomegranate

@pomegranate

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Posted: 8 years ago

#21

yes marriage can happen with manipulation but not sustain it. for that you need honesty, which obviously maya lacks. she will eventually understand that she cannot control arjun or create her fairytale on an illusion.

Maya is not always manipulative, she has some genuine moments when she is not threatened. I still remember when she put her head on janvi's lap and said main jeena chahti hoon." Inside, she is a scared little girl yearning for love and companionship but then the obsessive part of her takes over. Right now she is insecure and will do anything to make sure arjun is hers.

At the end of it all, it is arjun's decision. who he chooses or whether he stands by maya when the truth comes to light. the symbolisms and dialogues says he will, after a lot of tears, and that is still what I would prefer. A man accepting a flawed, not running away, and getting her all the help she needs. If arjun still decides to stand by her after knowing the truth, then that is his choice. Am I being delusional? perhaps but not every story needs to end with the "psycho" ending up in a mental asylum or worse.

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shruthiravi

@shruthiravi

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Posted: 8 years ago

#22

@ae it doesnt redeem Ashwin, because after agreeing to marry for the child he had controlled Jhanvi doing things the way he want, what it will do is that it will show Jhanvi is not dhoodh mein dhuli as the victimized wife

@katrina in marriage you need friendship, not necessary in ulta you are right

@riyya Arjun needs Saanjh. That space of Saanjh as his soulmate or friend no one can take. His life partner I am not sure. Saanjh needs to know the exclusive space Arjun holds for her which he shares with none, no one can take it. Having someone else for wife doesnt mean she is more important than you or you lose your space. It shows you, your limit. Just like if Maya becomes Arjun's wife that doesnt mean he has to throw Saanjh out. No that is not possible. That is Maya's limit. The point is do we realize the limits. Because we dont know the limits we control as people want everything for themselves. There is a saying " Rishton ki maryada" or boundary of relations. if we learn to respect that boundary lot of issues will resolve by themselves.

@pom only truth can liberate, only truth can test the reality of whether Arjun want to continue. Only with truth his integrity in the relation will come out. Maya is not manipulative always. But many times her genuine attempts are not appreciated as people have a perception about her. So to get what she wants she uses manipulation which has become her habit. If someone is willing to walk the path to show her she dont need manipulation for acceptance she can be good.

Coming to social status. Yes they are not equals. Same was with Jhanvi Ashwin. But can Arjun be Maya's equal. Yes he can because he has talent. Instead of getting business class on Maya's dosti , can he take her in business class. The symbolism part of the one who can come up the indirect way should be prepared to go down the indirect way also. Arjun goes down and takes the dirt for her sake in the office when he doesnt say where he was at night.

I just want to know who is Aag se Janmi here Maya or Saanjh. If it is Saanjh well I have some other predictions 😆😆. You know me right pom, my love for MB whenever I analyze power 😃😃

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@TheUnique

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Posted: 8 years ago

#23

Agree . You have differentiated between friendship & love beautifully. KJO's bogus funda on love & friendship is not applicable in real life. When love comes in between friendship in some cases it does not go well & in the end you end up losing your bestie too !
Here it would have been better if they would have kept Saanjh & Arjun as friends like soulmates & Maya gets to be the love of Arjun. But Maya is toxic & is not right for him but if CVs show that after Arjun realizes what he got into instead of running away gets help for her & she becomes free from the demons inside her it wud be better.
In yesterday's episode when Maya was gleefully making Arjun twirl in that cart ..or when she was observing how like a happy child Arjun was behaving she was genuinely very happy to see him happy ... no manipulation there. But the moment he mentioned Saanjh's name she made him fall from the cart & even told that she will break the hand if the person tries to draw it away from her ! This just shows Maya will not stop from harming him physically if he dares to leave her & then such a relation cannot be called love .
Till now I had a perception that Maya will be his love & Saanjh his true & best friend. But somewhere from yesterday's episode I started to feel CVs will follow KJO funda cuz if they don't show Maya later on recovering from her mental state then obviously there is no future for Arjun & Maya & they will show Arjun realizing it & will come back to Saanjh. Maya is not the right person for Arjun in her current state of mind...don't know what the CVs have in mind but I will be very heartbroken if Maya turns out to be an out & out negative character. Jenny did say her ch will not be negative ..i just have some hopes from her words ... now let's see

Edited by TheUnique - 8 years ago

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shruthiravi

@shruthiravi

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Posted: 8 years ago

#24

@unique though Maya manipulates Arjun, the moments which Arjun has really gone to Maya were genuine. The scene in the lift, then in hospital, once again in terrace and the swirling on the wall. Those moments didnt had any manipulation.

Saanjh makes Maya insecure. I feel it has to do with her father's mistress. That her father dumped her mother and went for another woman.

It need not be like that anytime. For me Maya has to acknowledge Saanjh's existence in Arjun's life and vica versa for Saanjh.

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486792

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Posted: 8 years ago

#25

Brilliant post Shruthi di!!👏👏👏

I too feel that friendship is often mistaken for love.And when two people are friends,why is it assumed that this friendship will evolve into love gradually?? I am not denying that it happens.But it's not necessary that it will happen every time.

Friendship has its identity as a separate relationship.It doesn't need to evolve into love to grow stronger.One example is that of Lord Krishna and Panchali.Their bond was of friendship.Pure and true friendship.It did not turn into romantic love neither did they label their relationship as that of siblings.But they were just friends.

And love is an emotion which is entirely different yet equally strong.It's not mandatory that the person you love must be someone you know for a long time.Love can be irrational at times yet warm and deep.

Why I ship ArYa is because both Arjun and Maya need each other at this point.Maya needs Arjun because he can heal her and teach her to be happy again and Arjun needs Maya so that she can give him a direction in life and become his inspiration.

Regarding Saanjh,I feel that Vandy and Suman are committing a big mistake by encouraging her.If she suffers from a heartbreak then they are the ones to be blamed.

Edited by ---Andromeda--- - 8 years ago

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kavita

@kavitha_r

Sparkler

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Posted: 8 years ago

#26

Originally posted by: TheUnique
Agree . You have differentiated between friendship & love beautifully. KJO's bogus funda on love & friendship is not applicable in real life. When love comes in between friendship in some cases it does not go well & in the end you end up losing your bestie too !
Here it would have been better if they would have kept Saanjh & Arjun as friends like soulmates & Maya gets to be the love of Arjun. But Maya is toxic & is not right for him but if CVs show that after Arjun realizes what he got into instead of running away gets help for her & she becomes free from the demons inside her it wud be better.
In yesterday's episode when Maya was gleefully making Arjun twirl in that cart ..or when she was observing how like a happy child Arjun was behaving she was genuinely very happy to see him happy ... no manipulation there. But the moment he mentioned Saanjh's name she made him fall from the cart & even told that she will break the hand if the person tries to draw it away from her ! This just shows Maya will not stop from harming him physically if he dares to leave her & then such a relation cannot be called love .
Till now I had a perception that Maya will be his love & Saanjh his true & best friend. But somewhere from yesterday's episode I started to feel CVs will follow KJO funda cuz if they don't show Maya later on recovering from her mental state then obviously there is no future for Arjun & Maya & they will show Arjun realizing it & will come back to Saanjh. Maya is not the right person for Arjun in her current state of mind...don't know what the CVs have in mind but I will be very heartbroken if Maya turns out to be an out & out negative character. Jenny did say her ch will not be negative ..i just have some hopes from her words ... now let's see

Arya scenes are fine till Maya pushed him from the cart after he took Saanjh's name. That was disappointing. Saajun shippers may ask me why I ship Arya after this incident. My answer is both of them had a rough phase in their childhood but Maya's past has been crueler. Maya needs Arjun to help her overcome her demons within her and Arjun needs Maya as a way how to lead life. Maya is fine but for her emotional imbalance. Ashwin had manipulated all the people around her such that no one would mingle with her. Even I'm scared what will happen if Arjun gets to know about Mata's secret. A person does a good thing if he marries the person with a sound mind but does a better thing if he takes it as a challenge and stands for that person having a mental disorder. We have 2 wait n watch which category Arjun will fall in.

Maya has not always been manipulative. Arya godown scene was also not manipulated. Though there has been no romance it has been passionate. Arya hospital scene was also passionate and emotional. If at all she manipulates, it is out of her bad experience and she had found solace in Arjun which she does not want to lose. She needs to be shown that things can be acquired even without manipulation and an initial push as to how to go about it.

Edited by katrinasalman - 8 years ago

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shruthiravi

@shruthiravi

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Posted: 8 years ago

#27

@Andromeda you put the points correctly. Vandana and Suman should stay put. If they push Saanjh, Saanjh herself will end up in trouble. It is like Saanjh has to be happy and Arjun can give that happiness to Saanjh. They feel Arjun has realized his love for Saanjh. Just like Vandana felt Arjun needs a mother and pushed herself onto him

I dont know whether you have watched the movie Happy Bhag jayegi there is a beautiful line Bilal tells to Guddu to a question whether Bilal has fallen for Happy. It doesnt matter who likes Happy all it matters is who does Happy choose. Same is the case with Arjun. If two ladies are running behind him, finally it is his choice whom he wants as life partner

I love DTPH exactly for that where they kept Rahul-nisha, Ajay-Pooja as friends with Nisha and Ajay letting go knowing it is Pooja-Rahul the couple

Same is Malayalam movie Kalyana Raman where unni leaves Gauri knowing she loves Ramankutty. Yet Gauri and unni remain besties.

What I am telling is it only becoming Arjun's better half Saanjh's character has an existence. Saanjh has an existence outside Arjun. She is a capable lady. Let the pain make her discover herself and what she is capable of. Not this insecure, running behind Saanjh

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riyya6

@riyya6

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Posted: 8 years ago

#28

Interesting discussion all ... @shruthiravi at this point of the story ... let's say arjun learns that saanjh loves him ... maya he already knows ... who will be his choice ...

My take : arjun will choose maya ...

Edited by riyya6 - 8 years ago

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riyya6

@riyya6

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Posted: 8 years ago

#29

@shruthiravi another thing if saanjh really loves arjun why can't she let go of him ... loving someone does not mean u need them with you but the person being happy does count ... there's a saying if you love someone let them go, if they came back then it's it's but if not they are never meant to be something like that ..

What they have seen maya side its just a part of it not like she knew maya whole history ... of past ...

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Sanjana luhana

@Sanjana212

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Posted: 8 years ago

#30

I am just 14 so true love is dur ki baat for me. 🤣 but sirf one thing i have to say is that pyaar mein dosti hona zaroori hoti hain lekin agar dosti mein pyaar aa jae toh woh dosti khatam si ho jati hai. Because of sanjhs love i am sure arjun sanjh ki dosti pe effect hoga.

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