Maya is still a young player!!!!

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Posted: 5 years ago
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For someone who has planned revenge for 10 years, current Maya is difficult for me to understand.


Maya planned proximity with Rudra in a different way. It's hard for me to believe that she didn't sense that Rudra will come after her, propose marriage and actually do it. It's hard for me to believe that marriage with Rudra as a way to get into Roy mansion wasn't always an agenda on her cards. I don't think she wanted to kill Rudra just like that. He was a medium for her afterall to get to MJ. Her entire planning revolved around using both the sons for her gains & it's hard for me to think that planning has taken a back seat by long shot. Her love for Rudra is making her weak as well. She now has a fear over which her enemies are having a feast.


Recent episodes look quite weird. Maya has spent 10 years facing the cruelty, trauma because of what they did, she knows what they are capable of & still she was stupid enough to declare her undying love for Rudra in front of Roys and that too in private. I would have understood it if she was doing it in front of Rudra to gain his complete trust and prove that his family wasn't accepting her.

Maya shows her fear. I know she is deeply traumatized but she actually holds on to Rudra for even the smallest support. Where did that Maya go who entered Roy house and actually challenged MJ.


If Maya wants to prove that she is no Manvi, then she has to act like Maya, the lioness who scares the shit out of everyone, just like she did it in front of Sudhir or Antara. It's a little difficult for me to digest that in all these years, Maya never prepared herself for facing her ultimate enemy & fear. For how long was she planning to play hide & seek. And if she was planning to play hide & seek only, why did she go to the lengths of entrapping Rudra and marrying her.


I get that Maya is overwhelmed by Rudra's love but looks like revenge has taken a back seat for her. She is all about protecting Rudra and having her by her side by all means. She can't with such a visible vulnerability. MJ has sensed that Maya feeds off Rudra's support. He knows he can control her again through Rudra only and it's not good for Maya.


You never let your weakness out in open in a war. I fail to understand why would Maya want to change the perception that she is here for Rudra and not just revenge. Why clarify? Let them think that Rudra is a pawn. Did she not know what these monsters are and how they will stop at nothing when it comes to breaking her, even if they have to use Rudra for it.


Maya in recent episodes is making less sense to me. It's like she isn't yet ready for war and doesn't understand MJ fully yet. Looks like she has pinned it all on Rudra and has discarded her own planning that she did so far.


The fact that MJ could come in her room and assault her today speaks a lot. The fact that he will be much more brutal tomorrow while she sits lifeless speaks all the more. All her rebuttals to MJ in last few episodes have been only when Rudra was around, otherwise she gets a panic attack whenever MJ is near. She hasn't truly overcome her fears yet and I don't know what more is she waiting for to finally be able to stand upto him on her own without a proxy.


Maya should be about Durga & Kali on her own whenever her dignity is compromised, feisty enough to only be stopped by Rudra. Rudra right not looks like her weakness & strength to MJ & he knows how to exploit this codependent relationship she has with his son.


Please makers, give me back the lioness Maya, wounded on inside yet feisty infront of her enemies on her own. It's hard for me to see Maya being this vulnerable and timid in front of MJ and hw gloating in intimidating her.

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Maya suffers deep.. there is multiple issues here.. first is the fact that she has a guilt of killing rishi, second she loves Rudra and she isn't telling him the past, third she never wanted to face MJ and now she has to, fourth she planned to war from the backseat and now she is pushed in front, fifth her past trauma is too harsh and she is still trying to adjust to the light in her life from her long torn darkness..


MJ will push her to a limit just like she was pushed into the puddle to die but she came out... either she will decide to fall or push him back.. even Maa durga was created and given strength by the other gods esp Shiva who gave persuades parvati to become durga and gave her the weapon to kill Mahishasur and then she rose to the occasion.. Maya will also rise and MJ will be in for a rude surprise..


Cutting hair is also a way of bringing positive change in life.. many of us indulge in it when we are depressed.. MJ is cutting away Maya jaisingh and empowering Manvi Singh by doing what he did.. anyways we have a party soon and something is surely gonna happen in the party to wait and watch..

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Posted: 5 years ago
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My sentiments exactly. I was like girl you waited ten years. You're moving around with this bad girl attitude where no one challenges you but now you're turning weak. Unrealistic. I seriously got turned off with the precap.

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: arshi_asya

For someone who has planned revenge for 10 years, current Maya is difficult for me to understand.


Maya planned proximity with Rudra in a different way. It's hard for me to believe that she didn't sense that Rudra will come after her, propose marriage and actually do it. It's hard for me to believe that marriage with Rudra as a way to get into Roy mansion wasn't always an agenda on her cards. I don't think she wanted to kill Rudra just like that. He was a medium for her afterall to get to MJ. Her entire planning revolved around using both the sons for her gains & it's hard for me to think that planning has taken a back seat by long shot. Her love for Rudra is making her weak as well. She now has a fear over which her enemies are having a feast.


Recent episodes look quite weird. Maya has spent 10 years facing the cruelty, trauma because of what they did, she knows what they are capable of & still she was stupid enough to declare her undying love for Rudra in front of Roys and that too in private. I would have understood it if she was doing it in front of Rudra to gain his complete trust and prove that his family wasn't accepting her.

Maya shows her fear. I know she is deeply traumatized but she actually holds on to Rudra for even the smallest support. Where did that Maya go who entered Roy house and actually challenged MJ.


If Maya wants to prove that she is no Manvi, then she has to act like Maya, the lioness who scares the shit out of everyone, just like she did it in front of Sudhir or Antara. It's a little difficult for me to digest that in all these years, Maya never prepared herself for facing her ultimate enemy & fear. For how long was she planning to play hide & seek. And if she was planning to play hide & seek only, why did she go to the lengths of entrapping Rudra and marrying her.


I get that Maya is overwhelmed by Rudra's love but looks like revenge has taken a back seat for her. She is all about protecting Rudra and having her by her side by all means. She can't with such a visible vulnerability. MJ has sensed that Maya feeds off Rudra's support. He knows he can control her again through Rudra only and it's not good for Maya.


You never let your weakness out in open in a war. I fail to understand why would Maya want to change the perception that she is here for Rudra and not just revenge. Why clarify? Let them think that Rudra is a pawn. Did she not know what these monsters are and how they will stop at nothing when it comes to breaking her, even if they have to use Rudra for it.


Maya in recent episodes is making less sense to me. It's like she isn't yet ready for war and doesn't understand MJ fully yet. Looks like she has pinned it all on Rudra and has discarded her own planning that she did so far.


The fact that MJ could come in her room and assault her today speaks a lot. The fact that he will be much more brutal tomorrow while she sits lifeless speaks all the more. All her rebuttals to MJ in last few episodes have been only when Rudra was around, otherwise she gets a panic attack whenever MJ is near. She hasn't truly overcome her fears yet and I don't know what more is she waiting for to finally be able to stand upto him on her own without a proxy.


Maya should be about Durga & Kali on her own whenever her dignity is compromised, feisty enough to only be stopped by Rudra. Rudra right not looks like her weakness & strength to MJ & he knows how to exploit this codependent relationship she has with his son.


Please makers, give me back the lioness Maya, wounded on inside yet feisty infront of her enemies on her own. It's hard for me to see Maya being this vulnerable and timid in front of MJ and hw gloating in intimidating her.

actually the part where she confessed her love for Rudra wasn't shown. And I have observed since last season that a lot of dialogues were later added during editing. I guess I am sensitive to sound as I edit sound. But if you observe closely even her lip wasn't moved. I don't get it why they have to add dialogues through voice overs during editing which was never a part of the script.
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Posted: 5 years ago
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For someone who had been planning her vengeance for the past 10 years,Maya is behaving like a novice now. Looking at her current condition,I wonder whether she has any plan in the first place. I am sorry but chopping flowers and burning dollhouses is not what I would call planning.


This makes me wonder about Maya Jaisingh's original plan to destroy MJ by killing both his sons.Let's assume that she had gone ahead with that plan,tapkaoed Rudra and disappeared with Nandini and Rajeev. And what after that? MJ loves his sons but not more than himself. He is the kind of man who would use his family's funeral pyre to light his own cigar.Do din keliye aansoon bahata and then he would have gone on with his life as usual.And he would have hunted her down from any corner of the world.


Now we have Maya Rudra Roy.I feel that Maya's personality changes along with her names.She wants to be Maya Rudra Roy now and seek comfort in Rudra's love and affection. I am not against that but this is not the time to lower her defences.Especially in front of the monster whom she has to take on and destroy. MJ isn't going to sit and wait for to take her own sweet time.I don't expect Maya's PTSD and fear of MJ to disappear into thin air immediately.But the least she can do is not show her fear IN FRONT of him. I would have found it more believable had she been bold in front of him and got overhwhelmed by her fear when she is all alone. It took a decade for her to become Maya Jaisingh but Maya Jaisingh doesn't appear when she is needed the most. Intimidating Sudhir is cool but he isn't the actual problem. It's MJ. MJ has guessed two things correctly about her.


a) She is helluva scared of him.

b) She uses Rudra as an emotional crutch and is dependent on him.


This is why he keeps bullying and intimidating her every time. I am unable to believe that she is putting up an act because her fear is genuine. Also even if it were an act it wouldn't be of any use for MJ isn't provoked easily.Neither is he reckless nor stupid enough to try his tricks with her in Rudra's presence.


And there is no use of claiming that she is Maya Rudra Roy and expressing her love and attachment for Rudra openly in front of MJ. Usko ghanta faraq padta hai whether she is Maya Jaisingh,Maya Rudra Roy or Maya Hrithik Roshan.He sees her as Manvi because she cannot conceal Manvi whenever she is with him.I am not expecting her to go Wonder Woman on him immediately but the least she can do is show him a glimpse of the Maya Jaisingh who has been forged with his own darkness.Two of the key rules in a war are that our enemies must not know about our weaknesses and we must not be vulnerable in front of them. Let's see what Maya didi did.She openly went into MJ and co's headquarters and proclaimed her love for Rudra while cowering in front of MJ.MJ ko toh buy one get one free mil gaya. Not only did he become sure of Maya's fear but he also knows that Rudra is like a drug for her and no matter what happens she won't harm his son.Now that he knows that she doesn't pose as a threat to his son's life,he is not taking her seriously AT ALL. Rather she should have tried to puzzle him and let him think that she is using Rudra for revenge and can crush him any moment. Rudra was the only leverage she had over the Roys and she wasted that card for no reason.


At this moment I am unable to figure out anything about Maya.Her routine comprises of -


i) romancing Rudra - 40%

ii) being afraid of MJ before him - 40%

iii) giving glimpses of Maya Jaisingh to minions like Sudhir,Diya and Antara - 20%


Koi isko samjhao ki sapolo ke aage been bajane ka koi faayda nahi jab tak Naagin(MJ) kaabu main nahi aati.

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: LawlessLawyer

For someone who had been planning her vengeance for the past 10 years,Maya is behaving like a novice now. Looking at her current condition,I wonder whether she has any plan in the first place. I am sorry but chopping flowers and burning dollhouses is not what I would call planning.


This makes me wonder about Maya Jaisingh's original plan to destroy MJ by killing both his sons.Let's assume that she had gone ahead with that plan,tapkaoed Rudra and disappeared with Nandini and Rajeev. And what after that? MJ loves his sons but not more than himself. He is the kind of man who would use his family's funeral pyre to light his own cigar.Do din keliye aansoon bahata and then he would have gone on with his life as usual.And he would have hunted her down from any corner of the world.


Now we have Maya Rudra Roy.I feel that Maya's personality changes along with her names.She wants to be Maya Rudra Roy now and seek comfort in Rudra's love and affection. I am not against that but this is not the time to lower her defences.Especially in front of the monster whom she has to take on and destroy. MJ isn't going to sit and wait for to take her own sweet time.I don't expect Maya's PTSD and fear of MJ to disappear into thin air immediately.But the least she can do is not show her fear IN FRONT of him. I would have found it more believable had she been bold in front of him and got overhwhelmed by her fear when she is all alone. It took a decade for her to become Maya Jaisingh but Maya Jaisingh doesn't appear when she is needed the most. Intimidating Sudhir is cool but he isn't the actual problem. It's MJ. MJ has guessed two things correctly about her.


a) She is helluva scared of him.

b) She uses Rudra as an emotional crutch and is dependent on him.


This is why he keeps bullying and intimidating her every time. I am unable to believe that she is putting up an act because her fear is genuine. Also even if it were an act it wouldn't be of any use for MJ isn't provoked easily.Neither is he reckless nor stupid enough to try his tricks with her in Rudra's presence.


And there is no use of claiming that she is Maya Rudra Roy and expressing her love and attachment for Rudra openly in front of MJ. Usko ghanta faraq padta hai whether she is Maya Jaisingh,Maya Rudra Roy or Maya Hrithik Roshan.He sees her as Manvi because she cannot conceal Manvi whenever she is with him.I am not expecting her to go Wonder Woman on him immediately but the least she can do is show him a glimpse of the Maya Jaisingh who has been forged with his own darkness.Two of the key rules in a war are that our enemies must not know about our weaknesses and we must not be vulnerable in front of them. Let's see what Maya didi did.She openly went into MJ and co's headquarters and proclaimed her love for Rudra while cowering in front of MJ.MJ ko toh buy one get one free mil gaya. Not only did he become sure of Maya's fear but he also knows that Rudra is like a drug for her and no matter what happens she won't harm his son.Now that he knows that she doesn't pose as a threat to his son's life,he is not taking her seriously AT ALL. Rather she should have tried to puzzle him and let him think that she is using Rudra for revenge and can crush him any moment. Rudra was the only leverage she had over the Roys and she wasted that card for no reason.


At this moment I am unable to figure out anything about Maya.Her routine comprises of -


i) romancing Rudra - 40%

ii) being afraid of MJ before him - 40%

iii) giving glimpses of Maya Jaisingh to minions like Sudhir,Diya and Antara - 20%


Koi isko samjhao ki sapolo ke aage been bajane ka koi faayda nahi jab tak Naagin(MJ) kaabu main nahi aati.


@bold.


Exactly.


It looks like a different story altogether. I know she fears MJ but acting stupid is no solution. You don't tell your enemy that you don't plan to use their weakness. Let them speculate & fear you for what you could do to their weakness. I still can't wrap my head around the fact that she told MJ and company that she actually loves Rudra. I mean WTH. Let them think that you can harm their son even now, even though you don't intend to. Let them think that you have a leverage against them and you very well intend to use it if they attempt to cross her.


I don't like how she has given herself a back seat while putting Rudra at front. This is her battle. She will have to fight it. Loving Rudra can wait or can be done without making it obvious infront of these monsters. All I see right now is MJ overpowering her in every way possible. That makes me wonder if she even had a plan in the first place. MJ needs to see Maya Jaisingh in her feisty avatar in her own capacity, the one he fears himself.


Makers need to get back to the plot asap. Balance the story out. I am done with watching Maya play small tricks while MJ is all over her. Besides, editing needs to be done properly.


I still wonder why doesn't she tell Rudra that his fathet makes her cery uncomfortable. He will atleast look into some things then.

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: NamuVyas

Maya suffers deep.. there is multiple issues here.. first is the fact that she has a guilt of killing rishi, second she loves Rudra and she isn't telling him the past, third she never wanted to face MJ and now she has to, fourth she planned to war from the backseat and now she is pushed in front, fifth her past trauma is too harsh and she is still trying to adjust to the light in her life from her long torn darkness..


MJ will push her to a limit just like she was pushed into the puddle to die but she came out... either she will decide to fall or push him back.. even Maa durga was created and given strength by the other gods esp Shiva who gave persuades parvati to become durga and gave her the weapon to kill Mahishasur and then she rose to the occasion.. Maya will also rise and MJ will be in for a rude surprise..


Cutting hair is also a way of bringing positive change in life.. many of us indulge in it when we are depressed.. MJ is cutting away Maya jaisingh and empowering Manvi Singh by doing what he did.. anyways we have a party soon and something is surely gonna happen in the party to wait and watch..


It amazes me that Maya still needs to be pushed to limits by MJ to be feisty against him. Hasn't he done enough damage already? What more of her will she serve on platter to MJ that he can actually feast on. MJ sees a glimpse of Manvi in her still and that's because she is showing that.


Maya has no support. She has cut her family out now. She doesn't want Rudra to know anything yet. She is on her own and so she has to become Kali on her own and not by anyone's motivation. It's about survival for her, to survive and protect what's left of her.

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: LawlessLawyer

For someone who had been planning her vengeance for the past 10 years,Maya is behaving like a novice now. Looking at her current condition,I wonder whether she has any plan in the first place. I am sorry but chopping flowers and burning dollhouses is not what I would call planning.


This makes me wonder about Maya Jaisingh's original plan to destroy MJ by killing both his sons.Let's assume that she had gone ahead with that plan,tapkaoed Rudra and disappeared with Nandini and Rajeev. And what after that? MJ loves his sons but not more than himself. He is the kind of man who would use his family's funeral pyre to light his own cigar.Do din keliye aansoon bahata and then he would have gone on with his life as usual.And he would have hunted her down from any corner of the world.


Now we have Maya Rudra Roy.I feel that Maya's personality changes along with her names.She wants to be Maya Rudra Roy now and seek comfort in Rudra's love and affection. I am not against that but this is not the time to lower her defences.Especially in front of the monster whom she has to take on and destroy. MJ isn't going to sit and wait for to take her own sweet time.I don't expect Maya's PTSD and fear of MJ to disappear into thin air immediately.But the least she can do is not show her fear IN FRONT of him. I would have found it more believable had she been bold in front of him and got overhwhelmed by her fear when she is all alone. It took a decade for her to become Maya Jaisingh but Maya Jaisingh doesn't appear when she is needed the most. Intimidating Sudhir is cool but he isn't the actual problem. It's MJ. MJ has guessed two things correctly about her.


a) She is helluva scared of him.

b) She uses Rudra as an emotional crutch and is dependent on him.


This is why he keeps bullying and intimidating her every time. I am unable to believe that she is putting up an act because her fear is genuine. Also even if it were an act it wouldn't be of any use for MJ isn't provoked easily.Neither is he reckless nor stupid enough to try his tricks with her in Rudra's presence.


And there is no use of claiming that she is Maya Rudra Roy and expressing her love and attachment for Rudra openly in front of MJ. Usko ghanta faraq padta hai whether she is Maya Jaisingh,Maya Rudra Roy or Maya Hrithik Roshan.He sees her as Manvi because she cannot conceal Manvi whenever she is with him.I am not expecting her to go Wonder Woman on him immediately but the least she can do is show him a glimpse of the Maya Jaisingh who has been forged with his own darkness.Two of the key rules in a war are that our enemies must not know about our weaknesses and we must not be vulnerable in front of them. Let's see what Maya didi did.She openly went into MJ and co's headquarters and proclaimed her love for Rudra while cowering in front of MJ.MJ ko toh buy one get one free mil gaya. Not only did he become sure of Maya's fear but he also knows that Rudra is like a drug for her and no matter what happens she won't harm his son.Now that he knows that she doesn't pose as a threat to his son's life,he is not taking her seriously AT ALL. Rather she should have tried to puzzle him and let him think that she is using Rudra for revenge and can crush him any moment. Rudra was the only leverage she had over the Roys and she wasted that card for no reason.


At this moment I am unable to figure out anything about Maya.Her routine comprises of -


i) romancing Rudra - 40%

ii) being afraid of MJ before him - 40%

iii) giving glimpses of Maya Jaisingh to minions like Sudhir,Diya and Antara - 20%


Koi isko samjhao ki sapolo ke aage been bajane ka koi faayda nahi jab tak Naagin(MJ) kaabu main nahi aati.


Exactly my point. I made a post along similar lines yesterday.


This is a revenge story. At this point, the real tale of revenge starts; this is when MJ and Maya need to start playing their games against each other in full swing.


Maya Rudra romantic scenes are hindering the pace and movement of the story to a huge degree. Please, I like Rudra but this is NOT the time for cutesy romantic scenes. This is the time for the real cat-and-mouse game to begin. The battle of wits and strengths should start in full swing now.


Instead, we see rom-rom-romance.

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