Ep 53: Ab Rudra ke liye, tumhe MJ ke saath samne se khelna padega - Page 2

Originally posted by: shruthiravi

@libran this is what I tol yesterday.her fear will be her straight against mj as the ego gloated man thinks he can control her and that thinking will be his downfall. Rudra.MJ calls her manvi and he corrects Maya. Why he doesn't question who is manvi atleast to mj. Then his dialogue mera pyaar mere bhaiye ki hatya nahi karta. See Maya dudnt kill rudra bro.rishi died becoz he is mj son. Maya believes rudra will hate her when he knows truth.point is what truth he knows. There is more to his character that much I can tell now

Yes, I agree with you Shruthi. This time her fear is looking more planned than instinctive. Similar to when Rishi first entered Maya's lair. And she was this damsel in distress and pain, which kind of was his kink, be the 'kandha'. Something similar she is doing with Mrityunjay. But, but, but just like Mrityunjay got a kick by subduing Manvi, he will also get a similar kick in trying to subdue Maya, once he is enlightened to that side of hers - now I don't know if he will want to destroy Maya or possess Maya. That is my confusion.

With Rudra, he is aware of something which we don't know. He is not stupid. But one thing which I believe is, he really does love her, and it is beyhadh. And he wants Maya all to himself, that's it. He is indulging in Maya's darkness. I hope it doesn't bring out his own darkness. Because his intentions with Maya may just be of love, but still there is something amiss about him.

Originally posted by: dewdrops.16

Hello🤗

I am a regular reader of your post and I must say I really admire them.

Today's episode was thanfully a great relief from the traumatizing flashback scenes

MayRa are so beautiful..the tgought that they wont get a happy ending breaks me everytime I watch their scenes💔

The whole mystery regarding Rudra is so well kept and only because we are not getting any monologues from him.Only thing which is true in the whole equation is Maya's love from him and his love for Maya❤️

Btw kachrajay cracked me up🤣

Thanks, @dewdrops.16. Appreciate it. 😊

Yes, I could not take any more of the violence. It was a relief watching Rudra heal her. The journey has just begun, let's not think of the end, just yet.

Exactly, we do not get any idea of what is going on in his warped mind. How is so cleverly covering up all of it? He isn't stupid. Love cannot make you so blind overnight.

Originally posted by: vatika_r

It seems that Rudra loves Maya immensely as per the promos.

I have no doubt about Rudra's love. But there is a certain thing amiss about Rudra, which I cannot pinpoint.

Like when I see him, I have this feeling that he knows everything, but since he is crazy about Maya and having her all to himself, he is deliberately overlooking it. Like he is deliberately ignoring everything.

It's like he wants Maya for himself. He wants Maya to destroy this family. He knows she killed Rishi and he has rationalized it by saying, the woman I love did not kill my brother. His sanak is dangerous, that is the kind of feels I get, and it kind of ups the ante and makes for a thrilling and chilling twist.

Originally posted by: Armu4eva

I am going to believe Rudra does know about Mayas trials and tribulations and will love and support her till the last moment. Regarding Rishi, maybe he doesn't know that bit? But does have a suspicion?

Rudra was very clear with what he told Maya when she questioned him about his lie. He said "the woman I love can never kill my brother". Kehne ko simple dialogue hai, par sochne par there is a hidden meaning to the same. He said the woman he loves, is not the woman who killed Rishi. The woman who killed Rishi was that vengeful angel of death whom Rudra does not love. So, yes there is much more to the words Rudra says, like Krishna gol gol jalebi banate the apni baaton ka, Rudra is just that. Or, we are just thinking too much.

We need to understand Rudras psyche. He is a deeply emotional man with extremely volatile temperament. Thanks to Mayas love, he has calmed down and is at peace. Any kind of harm on Maya will alarm him and he will be back to his Rudra avatar. Rudra finally has someone that is JUST HIS! Someone who LOVES JUST HIM! Someone who trusts JUST HIM! He has never had that. I am sure he has no nefarious intention going by how his character has been shown on the show.

Yes, he is a deeply emotional and volatile man and a very lonely man. When we are so isolated, we tend to be a little unhinged and different, just like Maya is. I know Rudra isn't as broken as Maya is, but he was broken by his father, whom he loved to death. Maya loves him very much, and he likes that part of hers and wants only to herself. He is so Maya Mehrotra that way, that I fear he does not turn completely into one.

Coming to Maya, oh what magic love is. The Maya JaiSingh that couldn't handle light was for a moment shaken up on finding her bedroom in darkness with the source of her light Rudra suddenly missing. Foreshadowing much? Well even if a day comes when Rudra and Maya are at loggerheads am sure Rudra will turn around and come along to empower Maya.

Can Rudra and Maya ever be at loggerheads? Look at the guy. He is mad about her. Rishi's death secret is something which I am not so sure will drive them apart, because Rudra has an agenda, but not one that involves hurting Maya.

The MayRa bedroom rituals were so amazing with a tinge of foreshadowing. JenShiv are simply outstanding together- aesthetically as well as literally. So beautiful to watch.

Maya is moving towards light, and Rudra is moving towards darkness is what I can see. Its scary.

Coming to MJ, I am still not clear why Maya had to enter the lions den and end up conceeding. But I hope Maya can maro nehle pe dehla.

It was deliberate, I don't know why I feel it was deliberate.

Btw Maya had me at "Mera Rudy" Tonight

Yes, it seems everyone is stuck there, and I am stuck in Rudra's psyche.

Originally posted by: libran90

Ek show tha na, Kuch Rang Pyaar ke Aise Bhi...iss show ka naam hona chahiye tha, Kuch Rang Nafrat ke aise bhi..Thank you Mrityunjay, oh sorry...I have a new name for him Kachrajay, that's his name from now, kyunki Manvi kachra nahi hai, ye aadmi kachra hai.😡 And thank you, because you will actually help Maya overcome her own fears, by your own games. The badass Mrityunjay is yet to see the badass Maya Jaisingh, that badass who confused the living daylights out of Rudra, who charmed Rishi to death, who still manages to confuse Rajiv...that Maya. Ok, so here goes my post.

Mrityunjay, the snake - Yes, he is a snake, jo aaram se rengta rehta hai, aur agar khatra mehsus ho, to zyaada se zyaada, sar uthakar, ya phan lehrakar. I knew Mrityunjay would sense Maya's uneasiness and fear, and that is what he will use against her. He thinks this will be some cakewalk for him, because in his mind, she may have changed her name and persona, but she is still the same Manvi whom he used and threw away back then. And that is the biggest mistake of his life. Because instead of harming her, he is actually helping Maya overcome her trauma. The more Maya learns to face him, the more the uneasiness will seep away, and then what will Mrityunjay do. He thinks his fear has power over Manvi who still breathes within Maya, but what will he do when that very fear ceases to exist. Mrityunjay does not see Manvi as a challenge. In her case, he is Julius Ceaser, "Veni, Vidi, Vici" (I came, I saw, I conquered). But Maya, he knows nothing of her, her strengths, weaknesses, capabilities, nothing. Maya Jaisingh will be a challenge for him and that is what will spell doom for him. Maya Jaisingh will trigger that 'sanak' in him, which he cannot conquer, he cannot possess, but can only unravel and undo this Ravan ki Lanka. Raavan wanted to teach Sita a lesson for hurting his sister, but her strength and beauty enamored him. He adopted every and all means to possess her, but she only belonged to Ram. The same is going to happen here.

Maya Jaisingh - who is lost somewhere in her love for Rudra. Her love for Rudra is supposed to be her strength and not her weakness. But somewhere amidst Manvi and Maya Roy, Maya Jaisingh has lost her ground. The reason being, her skilled badassery was supposed to stay in the shadows and not come out in the open, but Rudra's love exposed her to the light. When you become so comfortable in the darkness, and all of a sudden you are exposed to light, your eyes are blinded by the light. Your eyes take time to adjust to the light, right. The same goes for Maya. Maya was so used to darkness and shadows that the light of Rudra's love has blinded her, and she is still trying to find her footing in this light. She is trying to find her bearings because she is not used to the light. And that is the realization that dawned upon her. For her love for Rudra, she has to fight this war with Mrityunjay from the front, in the light and scare the living daylights out of the manhus khandaan🤢. Just hope, she finds it sooner, because the snake has sensed her fear and is all ready to feast on it.

Rudra Maya Jaisingh Roy - Two things I have gathered tonight. Rudra is crazy for Maya and he is a mystery as well. Yes, Rudra is crazy for Maya, because the way he defended her, only a crazed lover cum husband can do that. Rudra can die for Maya, and Maya will go to any lengths to defend Rudra. Rudra is essentially a lonely man in that Roy mansion. Every person in that house is so busy doing gungaan of Mrityunjay Roy and giving all their attention to him, that no one once bothered to understand him or feel for him, not even his so-called best friend Ananya. And Maya is this one person who gives all her attention to him, initially it was out of revenge, but now out of love. Rudra has seen what Maya can do for him and he knows she will do it only for him. The taste of having someone only to yourself has made Rudra addicted to Maya, and that is why he feels so intensely for her, even when Maya knows that he deserves better. Now, I ain't sure if he deserves better because Rudra seemingly has an agenda, and it may be against Mrityunjay and he is using Maya for the same. He has full capacity to be Krishna because this Krishna is the one who directed a new path for the Arjun - Maya, who diverted the course of her revenge, who brought her to the Kurukshetra, who will now have to fight these pack of wolves under his watchful eye, who is so much in love with him, that for him she is ready to face her fears. Just like Arjun was devoted to Krishna that he followed his every guidance in the war. Maya's Krishna has come out of the idol and taken a human personification in Rudra. But what is Rudra's agenda? What is he aware of and isn't? Is Maya's fear about Rishi's death at her hands justified, or is there more to it? Maybe. But Rudra being the blissfully ignorant blind lover is a little difficult to digest.

Other Highlights:

*Antara has turned into a surprise package overnight😳. I haven't seen her yelling and screaming at Mrityunjay. Inke kuch alag rang hi dekhne ko mil rahe hai.

*Thankfully, for now, Rishi's chapter is over. Rudra's lie covered up for Maya, but for how long?

*Ananya ko ab hata hi do. Uske character ka itna butchering ho gaya hai that she is irredeemable as Rudra's best friend. Please hatao ab.

*Rajiv, kahaan ho tum yaar. Bahut bore ho rahe hai tumhare bina. Kisi tarah laut ke aa jao.

Well, that's all from me tonight. Let's hear from you all.

@red you are so right about that, he doesn’t deserve the name he has, so the new one is totally apt.

Originally posted by: meimo12

Great analysis as always!

I saw yesterday’s episodes and a few highlight from today’s but I have some doubts which will be hopefully cleared soon.

One, Ananyas character is a goner and I know the cvs have ruined her badly but when she finds out what her father did, will she really turn against him?
I mean yea she’ll probably loathe or dislike him but will she really support maya? She’s in love with her best friend who is married to the girl her father had a hand in ruining and we all saw “love is blind” with her so I have a feeling she’s still going to support MJ if there is a way of getting her love back? I hope not because I’m still hoping her character comes back but you never know...

also, MJ called her Maya, Manvi in front of her so what does she know? Whatever she is, she’s not stupid... so didn’t she catch that? I missed the previous episodes so not sure if they’ve fed her some story but did she miss the manvi part? No questions asked?

Then Rajiv, where is he hiding? Because I hope he’s hiding. I’m assuming Ananya mentioned Maya being the investor to MJ now that she’s team MJ? If so, MJ is supposed to push his energy in finding him right? Because he’s smart enough to put it together that Rajiv is working with Maya and there is no other way. If he finds him, he can torture him to either blurt out the truth which I hope he won’t as his character is shown? Or he’ll promise that he will but in front of Rudra he’ll change his statement? Idk what’s happening there but if MJ was smart, he will try to find Rajiv and piece things together...

Also Rudra, he lied about Maya being with him during Rishis time... and Maya is not smart enough to question him on it? He’s definitely on about something but since he’s shown as the epitome of honesty I’m hoping he is not going to turn against Maya. Obviously I’m not expecting him to forgive her for Rishis death but he will find a way to get justice then in all the ways? I had a thought earlier that maybe he knows some part of Maya’s story? Like somehow he met Mayas mom somewhere and she told something cuz we know she was bent on them being together and almost even started sharing Mayas story... what if she told something? What if he has an inkling of what MJ did and thinks he some other man? I don’t think he’s the one who saved Manvi but he’s not blind right... he can see how his family reacts around Maya or even his dad called her Manvi and he didn’t catch that? I really want to know what he knows ...

Last but not the least, what happened to manas and her dad? I hope they show that part of the story soon. What he did was terrible... but I really want to know that.

oh and I think Maya is pretending about being scared. I am sure deep down she is scared but I think she’s pretending to be scared. Yeah she probably still hates and feels disgusted with his touch but she’s pretending to be scared of his footsteps... that’s one thing that might make him overconfident, and turn tables against him.

And yea I’m done 😛

Thanks, @meimo12. Appreciate it.😊

Ananya, as a character has lost all respect for me because if a woman who does not respect herself and tries to force herself down someone's throat has no respect in my view. And all her big attempts to expose Maya are stemming from her jealousy for Maya and blinding her to many things. Rudra was not her to be taken and imposing yourself on a man, is disrespectful of that man's choice. It's her father's karma that she will be paying very soon, she will see how pathetic a character her father and her favorite MJ uncle is. The problem with these women around Mrityunjay is they are blind. But no worries, Maya is here to open their eyes and show them the mirror, even if they don't want to.

About the constant 'Manvi' and Rudra and Ananya not questioning it, I can say that Ananya is blind to whatever her dear MJ uncle says, and from Rudra's psyche that woman he married is only 'HIS', 'HIS MAYA', 'Meri Maya', and it gave off vibes like I don't want to hear that name which you know her by, she is mine and she is Maya, not your Manvi. It's like he does not want any trace of Mrityunjay on Maya.

Koshish kar sakte hai, lekin Maya ko dhund nahi paaye the Rajiv ki wajah se, to Rajiv ko kya khaak dhund payenge.

@bold: Sweety, she did question him about it. But he gave her such a vague answer which is open to interpretation, "Mera Pyaar mere bhai ko nahi maar sakti". Ab khud samajh lo kya meaning hai iska.

Manas and his dad are also open to interpretation.

Exactly, her fear is deliberate more than instinctive. Let's see what happens.

Originally posted by: Rein123

@red you are so right about that, he doesn’t deserve the name he has, so the new one is totally apt.

The irony of names I tell you. Even the villain's name in Iss Pyaar Ko Kya Naam Doon was Shyaam.

MJ is overconfident and Narcissistic,but I don’t blame him because maya has not shown him what she has become. He will learn soon after “manvi” turns into Maya Jaisingh when he least expects.Although, I really don’t want to see sexual harassment. It is gross especially considering the current relationship dynamic.

It is hard to watch maya cowerIng in front of MJ, but she needs time to gather her bearings it’s not easy to live under the same house as your abuser and look him in the eye every damn day.

Rudra is madly in love with maya but how mad is he exactly? That is hard to say at this point. We saw his sanak in Rishikesh, when he was close to losing maya but he has calmed down because he has her. I’m not sure whether he has an agenda, or he is a just blind in love with his wife. As we predicted, Rudra will be the real wild card here and he will show himself eventually, but I’m still yet to see which way he will go. So for now, I have nothing more to say because I cannot figure it out. It could be that he blindly trusts maya and we are just over analyzing.

The roy mansion is full of snakes. If they are not obsessed with themselves, then they are obsessed with MJ. No one, not even Antara cares about Rudra. Instead, Rudra is lonely man stuck in a labyrinth of questionable characters. Amidst all this, He finally has someone whose only focus is on him, he is the center of his wife’s universe;someone who will protect him, someone who will prioritize and understand him.As he told ananya, “maya ko sirf meri fikr hain.” With the word “sirf meri”punctuated.

My favourite part of the episode was of course when Maya showed the baap beti duo their true aukaad. Everyone was going crazy over Tuesday’s episode, but it did not leave an impact on me like today’s did. Because Maya was in the backfoot yesterday but today, Maya and Rudra fought together. Mr.and Mrs. Rudra Roy make a formidable team. They added so much fire to the entire showdown and I loved how rudra kept looking at maya, he loved that she defended him but more than that, he was proud of her strength and confidence.

Antara was the biggest surprise today. Who knew this thislady had a voice? I never expected her to yell it MJ but I never expected himto listen to her quietly either. She is suddenly talking because her false kingdom is under threat. Just like she signed Manvi’s execution order 10 years ago, she is again easily talking about killing maya. Wah! I expected nothing less from her. I think people are right that she is insecure of maya. Her husband had are relationship with he and she fears of history repeating itself. Is she really concerned for rudra as she claims? Or just threatened by the new mrs. roy and what she is capable of. The theories about Rudra not being MJ’s son may just be true because what we saw of antara in the past and today, she is capable of devilry.

Ananya and Sudhir are something else. Especially Sudhir,any smart man will book the first flight to London with his wife and daughter after all this but probably not. He needs to stick around to be held accountable for what he has done. I know people keep saying ananya’s character has been butchered, and that might be true, but I think we are just seeing her real face. She became rudra’s friend in the hopes of becoming his lover one day but since that is not possible anymore, she took her mask off. If she cannot be rudra’s wife, then she won’t be his friend either.

Maya’s next step would be to target Sudhir through his precious daughter. He loves her a lot, right? Maya should ask him how it would feel ifs someone beat ananya like he beat her. Sudhir will make a mistake and Maya or even MJ will deliver the last blow.

To be honest, Rudra has become difficult to read these days.. hats off to Shivin for that because I think that's exactly what makers want to do..confuse the audience regarding his intentions.. Most of the time when he is around Maya, he is like the epitome of love, devotion, passion and everything a girl wants in her guy..But then there are times when he gives weird vibes like today when he looked into Maya's eyes and said in a stern voice '' Mujhe sab pata hai'' Not just the audience, he even took Maya by surprise..so yeah, Rudra is not a one dimensional character and I am enjoying this whole suspense.. His constant hammering of how she has brought happiness in his world, how he trusts her, how he believes his love can never kill his brother... is getting a lil fishy eventhough I am loving their chemistry.

Maya on the other hand, is getting trapped in a strange way.. MJ now knows her love for Rudra is her weakness.. he was very smart to observe that Manvi may have changed her name and put on a facade but inside she still is the weak, vulnerable girl who has fear..last time it was her fear for her own life and that of her child and family and this time it is the fear of losing Rudra.. He is going to exploit that weakness to break her..

Originally posted by: pomegranate

MJ is overconfident and Narcissistic,but I don’t blame him because maya has not shown him what she has become. He will learn soon after “manvi” turns into Maya Jaisingh when he least expects.Although, I really don’t want to see sexual harassment. It is gross especially considering the current relationship dynamic.

Pommy, tumko lagta hai ki Kachrajay kisi bhi relationship ka lihaaz karta hai. Ghar me biwi aur gf, dono ko bitha rakha hai, woh kya lihaaz karega. Kuch din baad, ye aadmi Maya ke peeche pad jayega. Baap bete ke rishte ka lihaaz bhi nahi karega. It is icky my dear, but it is the ugly truth.

It is hard to watch maya cowerIng in front of MJ, but she needs time to gather her bearings it’s not easy to live under the same house as your abuser and look him in the eye every damn day.

Hamesha kaayarta weakness ko hint kare zaruri nahi. Maya ka game plan bhi ho sakta hai, to feast on his overconfidence. Let's see if I am right or not.

Rudra is madly in love with maya but how mad is he exactly? That is hard to say at this point. We saw his sanak in Rishikesh, when he was close to losing maya but he has calmed down because he has her. I’m not sure whether he has an agenda, or he is a just blind in love with his wife. As we predicted, Rudra will be the real wild card here and he will show himself eventually, but I’m still yet to see which way he will go. So for now, I have nothing more to say because I cannot figure it out. It could be that he blindly trusts maya and we are just over analyzing.

Rudra's madness gives me quite the dangerous vibes. I cannot read him, because just like his expressions amidst the entire family dynamics, I am clueless too. Is he so clueless, or is he so sly?

The roy mansion is full of snakes. If they are not obsessed with themselves, then they are obsessed with MJ. No one, not even Antara cares about Rudra. Instead, Rudra is lonely man stuck in a labyrinth of questionable characters. Amidst all this, He finally has someone whose only focus is on him, he is the center of his wife’s universe;someone who will protect him, someone who will prioritize and understand him.As he told ananya, “maya ko sirf meri fikr hain.” With the word “sirf meri”punctuated.

Exactly, just as I mentioned, his loneliness is one of the reasons for the intensity of his feelings for Maya, because Maya only feels for him, only loves him and will die and kill for him.

My favourite part of the episode was of course when Maya showed the baap beti duo their true aukaad. Everyone was going crazy over Tuesday’s episode, but it did not leave an impact on me like today’s did. Because Maya was in the backfoot yesterday but today, Maya and Rudra fought together. Mr.and Mrs. Rudra Roy make a formidable team. They added so much fire to the entire showdown and I loved how rudra kept looking at maya, he loved that she defended him but more than that, he was proud of her strength and confidence.

Oh ho ho! Aise hi to moments hote hai jahaan main khil khil has deti hu.😆

Antara was the biggest surprise today. Who knew this thislady had a voice? I never expected her to yell it MJ but I never expected himto listen to her quietly either. She is suddenly talking because her false kingdom is under threat. Just like she signed Manvi’s execution order 10 years ago, she is again easily talking about killing maya. Wah! I expected nothing less from her. I think people are right that she is insecure of maya. Her husband had are relationship with he and she fears of history repeating itself. Is she really concerned for rudra as she claims? Or just threatened by the new mrs. roy and what she is capable of. The theories about Rudra not being MJ’s son may just be true because what we saw of antara in the past and today, she is capable of devilry.

Khushifaimi tootne wali hai madam KudAntara ki. Itna zor se girengi na madam, ki kabhi uth nahi payengi.

Ananya and Sudhir are something else. Especially Sudhir,any smart man will book the first flight to London with his wife and daughter after all this but probably not. He needs to stick around to be held accountable for what he has done. I know people keep saying ananya’s character has been butchered, and that might be true, but I think we are just seeing her real face. She became rudra’s friend in the hopes of becoming his lover one day but since that is not possible anymore, she took her mask off. If she cannot be rudra’s wife, then she won’t be his friend either.

I couldn't agree more.

Maya’s next step would be to target Sudhir through his precious daughter. He loves her a lot, right? Maya should ask him how it would feel ifs someone beat ananya like he beat her. Sudhir will make a mistake and Maya or even MJ will deliver the last blow.

In fact, Maya will create such a situation, where Kachrajay will have no choice but to deliver the final blow to the mahaan friendship.