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Posted: 6 years ago

Originally posted by: arshi_asya


Ishq Subhan Allah invited a lot of wrath from a major chunk of Muslim Community from the reviews I came across. A lot of people used to bash the makers for showing Islam in the wrong way in the show.

Audience is actually improving now even the rural one from what I have noticed. So, they really can't make an excuse about the audience and blame them.


Nope i actually wanted to tell all of you that people migrate to the cities , physically yes but emotionally and in their minds , certain beliefs, rituals , patterns, lifestyles are set in their minds.

My ex maid belongs charmer community, came to Bombay when she was 15, then she was 35 when snakes came on tv she dropped the bucket of water and i almost ended up with a fracture.

My current one is from Baruch and actually wanted to see how triple talaq is handled in ISA so that she can get help.

It is the mindset here, some are connecting their beliefs, others the situation they are in.
They are connecting reel to real.
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Posted: 6 years ago

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Nope i actually wanted to tell all of you that people migrate to the cities , physically yes but emotionally and in their minds , certain beliefs, rituals , patterns, lifestyles are set in their minds.

My ex maid belongs charmer community, came to Bombay when she was 15, then she was 35 when snakes came on tv she dropped the bucket of water and i almost ended up with a fracture.

My current one is from Baruch and actually wanted to see how triple talaq is handled in ISA so that she can get help.

It is the mindset here, some are connecting their beliefs, others the situation they are in.
They are connecting reel to real.


Exactly. That's why I think makers should be really careful about the kind of content they show. Since some take inspiration from that only. There are still a lot who can't differentiate between reel & real. When they twist some fact, it might be fun for makers to add drama but some audience on other side of the audience might take it literally. That's why if TV take up a real subject that can impact someone socially, it invites a lot of responsibility from the makers & channels as well. I remember the times when people used to think Ramananda Sagar's Ramayana & its characters are real & they used to worship Arun Govil thinking he was literally Ram. I believe that sort of audience is still there & they don't need manipulated drama for the sake of TRPs, they want something that can help them with something real & useful. Now, every epic has been up for distortion, Ramayana, Mahabharat, pseudo-history & mythos which no longer tell the actual story but are manipulated for the sake of TRP & drama. Karnsangini is the latest example of it.

Udaan was a good show shedding light on Bonded labor but what they did to it can't be forgiven. Shakti came with a good subject but they ended up making a drama out of something serious. DSDT was good with subject of surrogacy but what they did was horrible.
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Posted: 6 years ago
Ok.
I have really refrained myself from saying anything but this is getting ridiculous to the point of T.
@varuni - u keep saying who is calling Harshad names.
Well it is you! If you want me to be SPECIFIC ,coz u really want everything to be v specific and nothing between d lines.
You called he doesnt have guts
U keep repeating this in very post of yours. If you know, that means that
you are calling him a coward.
Which is calling names.
U dont need literal gaalis to belittle someone. Calling onto his honestly as cowardice is name shamming.
Then u accuse him that if he would not have won the awards,he would have said awards are rigged. What do u think HC is? A cry baby like urself who can't digest other's victory?
Has he said anything like this ever for anyone? Did he say this when he did not win in Gold awards?
Just how pathetic is that view of urs..why would HC demean the awards? Do u think he is like u that he will call them rigged?

And i call you on this namecalling. And this is namecalling,

Secondly, 6 other panelist...said almost the SAME thing but u can only cry about what HC said... And he did not infact degrade anyone..he just said that everyone, and that means me and my neighbors and my parents and my friends and my chacha ke bete ki mausi ka damaad also should be taken into consideration while evaluating the TRPs of this industry and shows should cater to our interests too..
That does not mean he said that do not cater to rural masses... He meant that cater to a ,b, c.

Now your never ending rona about rigged awards.. I know it is difficult to digest his win...coz he won by huge margin..
No wait, that is HUMONGOUS margin...10.2 cr is NOT a joke by any standards and people really voted for him dil se.
I have voted for him, online and sms..paying my mobile bill and not on Any free scheme..

So when u call my effort as rigged, that pisses me off.. 60% of total votes is not a joke and i hope u stop degrading this fact.
Just coz ur fav did not win, u r desperately trying to belittle his achievement by your constant whining.

Deal with it. Almost Every fandom, and i mean almost Every fd in social media has praised hc and said he deserves this win. Even our rival fds..
So that is something.uh?

As for u,..all this hate and jealousy will not lead anywhere..
Edited by coolgal270 - 6 years ago
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Posted: 6 years ago

Originally posted by: coolgal270

Ok.

I have really refrained myself from saying anything but this is getting ridiculous to the point of T.
@varuni - u keep saying who is calling Harshad names.
Well it is you! If you want me to be SPECIFIC ,coz u really want everything to be v specific and nothing between d lines.
You called he doesnt have guts
U keep repeating this in very post of yours. If you know, that means that
you are calling him a coward.
Which is calling names.
U dont need literal gaalis to belittle someone. Calling onto his honestly as cowardice is name shamming.
Then u accuse him that if he would not have won the awards,he would have said awards are rigged. What do u think HC is? A cry baby like urself who can't digest other's victory?
Has he said anything like this ever for anyone? Did he say this when he did not win in Gold awards?
Just how pathetic is that view of urs..why would HC demean the awards? Do u think he is like u that he will call them rigged?

And i call you on this namecalling. And this is namecalling,

Secondly, 6 other panelist...said almost the SAME thing but u can only cry about what HC said... And he did not infact degrade anyone..he just said that everyone, and that means me and my neighbors and my parents and my friends and my chacha ke bete ki mausi ka damaad also should be taken into consideration while evaluating the TRPs of this industry and shows should cater to our interests too..
That does not mean he said that do not cater to rural masses... He meant that cater to a ,b, c.

Now your never ending rona about rigged awards.. I know it is difficult to digest his win...coz he won by huge margin..
No wait, that is HUMONGOUS margin...10.2 cr is NOT a joke by any standards and people really voted for him dil se.
I have voted for him, online and sms..paying my mobile bill and not on Any free scheme..

So when u call my effort as rigged, that pisses me off.. 60% of total votes is not a joke and i hope u stop degrading this fact.
Just coz ur fav did not win, u r desperately trying to belittle his achievement by your constant whining.

Deal with it. Almost Every fandom, and i mean almost Every fd in social media has praised hc and said he deserves this win. Even our rival fds..
So that is something.uh?

As for u,..all this hate and jealousy will not lead anywhere..



Why should I hate harshad ..what's there in him to hate or to feel jealous on him ...he is just a tv actor ...and there r hundress of men out there who r much better looking than him

And popular awards r rigged ...if u allow multiple voting it's called rigging ...go to dictionary and search if multiple voting is called FAIR if u vote 100 times and call it a EFFORT instead of RIGGING god bless you ..a new english dictionary and new laws should be invented

He is honest .u say ... i assess bim only professionally and professionally what I see .he is just a Saadha seedha man like others who can't speak against channel politics or corporate malpractice bcos he will lose his job ..he is not a reformer nor a whistle blower who have guts and who really r honest and decide to lose their jobs but fight against the higher ladder ...so stop labeling him ..for me he is Joe average in personality and he is very good at his job ...And In Job Too He Never Tried DDifferent Genres Like Comedy Mythology To Call Him As A Legend


He said his family members friends should be included in trp ...All over the world trp is calculated the same way ..meter is not fixed in every ones home theres a thing called sampling ..first let harshad know it .demanding things to be done that r never done worldwide is not practical way of thinking ...only thing is sampling size instead of 30k can be increased substantially might be to 10 lakh to represent 100 cr population and to prevent manipulation


Bcos every one says a wrong thing as right ..it won't become right ...and voting multiple times is rigging and it's not a fair way to win and this is a fact
I Never Said He Did Not Deserve An Award ..The Popular Award He Got Is Rigged And If Any One Other Than Him Wins Also I Will Call It Rigged

Edited by VARUNI2014 - 6 years ago
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Posted: 6 years ago

Originally posted by: VARUNI2014



Why should I hate harshad ..what's there in him to hate or to feel jealous on him ...he is just a tv actor ...and there r hundress of men out there who r much better looking than him

And popular awards r rigged ...if u allow multiple voting it's called rigging ...go to dictionary and search if multiple voting is called FAIR if u vote 100 times and call it a EFFORT instead of RIGGING god bless you ..a new english dictionary and new laws should be invented

He is honest .u say ..do u know him personally and are u his buddy to say he is honest..i dont know him personally .so i assess bim o ly professionally and professionally what I see .he is just a Saadha seedha man like others who can't speak against channel politics or corporate malpractice bcos he will lose his job ..he is not a reformer nor a whistle blower who have guts and who really r honest and decide to lose their jobs but fight against the higher ladder ...so stop labeling him ..for me he is Joe average in personality and he is very good at his job ...


He said his family members friends should be included in trp ...All over the world trp is calculated the same way ..meter is not fixed in every ones home theres a thing called sampling ..first let harshad know it .demanding things to be done that r never done worldwide is not practical way of thinking ...only thing is sampling size instead of 30k can be increased substantially might be to 10 lakh to represent 100 cr population and to prevent manipulation




u dont need to teach me english. I am quite educated myself,thank u v much.
Rigging is referred to when there is a certain party winning but by unfair means the results r being changed or tampered with.

A multiple voting is not called rigging and that is first thing u need to understand. Everyone nominated in that category has the same chance if the fans vote multiple times... His fans did vote with a huge margin and thats why he won.
And calling that is rigging.. Lol...the first time i ever heard it.

Secondly, u r not his teacher to teach him what he should speak. I am not his buddy and dont know his personally. I know him as a fan knows someone.. he is one of the most forthcoming and honest celebrity that i have seen and i have seen many. So dont go on personal assumptions which u clearly have abt him. I dont.
.r u telling me he is not honest?
Why? Just coz he spoke about the issues present in the itv today and it touched a nerve of urs, which btw no one else felt..
Why should he speak for bepannaah when the live was about the TV in general...He is not an attention seeker that he will go on abt his show when the topic is much broader and bigger and needs to be addressed.

So if someone is not a whistle blower or a reformer, he doesnt have guts?
So u either speak what YOU clearly want them to speak or go all out and take d system down with one speech?
Wah wah..what a profound thought..

He was sharing his opinion which he did like the other 6 panelists.
Calling him a coward for that is Really pathetic.

And then u claim u dont badmouth him And dont hate him. 👏
Ur every word drip of the venom for him and yes u need not be explicit. i can read between d lines,even if u cant.

And you are the only one who is labelling him here..no one else is doing that..

Edited by coolgal270 - 6 years ago
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Posted: 6 years ago

Originally posted by: VARUNI2014



Why should I hate harshad ..what's there in him to hate or to feel jealous on him ...he is just a tv actor ...and there r hundress of men out there who r much better looking than him

And popular awards r rigged ...if u allow multiple voting it's called rigging ...go to dictionary and search if multiple voting is called FAIR if u vote 100 times and call it a EFFORT instead of RIGGING god bless you ..a new english dictionary and new laws should be invented

He is honest .u say ... i assess bim only professionally and professionally what I see .he is just a Saadha seedha man like others who can't speak against channel politics or corporate malpractice bcos he will lose his job ..he is not a reformer nor a whistle blower who have guts and who really r honest and decide to lose their jobs but fight against the higher ladder ...so stop labeling him ..for me he is Joe average in personality and he is very good at his job ...And In Job Too He Never Tried DDifferent Genres Like Comedy Mythology To Call Him As A Legend


He said his family members friends should be included in trp ...All over the world trp is calculated the same way ..meter is not fixed in every ones home theres a thing called sampling ..first let harshad know it .demanding things to be done that r never done worldwide is not practical way of thinking ...only thing is sampling size instead of 30k can be increased substantially might be to 10 lakh to represent 100 cr population and to prevent manipulation


Bcos every one says a wrong thing as right ..it won't become right ...and voting multiple times is rigging and it's not a fair way to win and this is a fact
I Never Said He Did Not Deserve An Award ..The Popular Award He Got Is Rigged And If Any One Other Than Him Wins Also I Will Call It Rigged

When did he say his family member should be included in the trp?
Lol..
And i dont think we need to let him know anything.he has been on this industry for many years and he def knows more than u or I know.
Plus he didnt demand...he stated a fact and wished for the change..that doesnt mean he demanded it...

So lets tone down ur aggression a bit,huh!

R u sure u watched the correct live?
Coz he just asked majority of the people to be included in this system and not a few..
He did not even say that include all.Every single one... He said include from all kinds of viewers... Which means increase your sampling data...
Edited by coolgal270 - 6 years ago
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Posted: 6 years ago
ok explain to me why someone who CLEARLY does not like Harshad is here in this forum? 😵

i voted for Harshad because he did more acting in one scene than most actors are doing in whole serials. calling the ITA rigged is plain pathetic. it is by VOTING...and Harshad won by VOTES. Simple.

moving on...i liked the fact that the live addressed the kind of content being shown today...its true that actors have slim pickings right now...and there is a craze for supernatural shows..i liked it when gaurav said that the idea of naagin intially was great...until you start bringing in all the creatures of the animal kingdom.

i wish shows now had something to teach the youth...bepannaah taught how to move on even when betrayed. and that's why i feel it was high in content.



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ok explain to me why someone who CLEARLY does not like Harshad is here in this forum? 😵

i voted for Harshad because he did more acting in one scene than most actors are doing in whole serials. calling the ITA rigged is plain pathetic. it is by VOTING...and Harshad won by VOTES. Simple.

moving on...i liked the fact that the live addressed the kind of content being shown today...its true that actors have slim pickings right now...and there is a craze for supernatural shows..i liked it when gaurav said that the idea of naagin intially was great...until you start bringing in all the creatures of the animal kingdom.

i wish shows now had something to teach the youth...bepannaah taught how to move on even when betrayed. and that's why i feel it was high in content.




The person doesn't hate Harshad. The person hates him for his neutral views on state of ITV right now because he should have either kept quite or only praised but not give his 2 cent in a GD which was all about Issues with present state of TV in present times or he should sugarcoated words rather than stating things with facts.
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Originally posted by: coolgal270


u dont need to teach me english. I am quite educated myself,thank u v much.
Rigging is referred to when there is a certain party winning but by unfair means the results r being changed or tampered with.

A multiple voting is not called rigging and that is first thing u need to understand. Everyone nominated in that category has the same chance if the fans vote multiple times... His fans did vote with a huge margin and thats why he won.
And calling that is rigging.. Lol...the first time i ever heard it.

Secondly, u r not his teacher to teach him what he should speak. I am not his buddy and dont know his personally. I know him as a fan knows someone.. he is one of the most forthcoming and honest celebrity that i have seen and i have seen many. So dont go on personal assumptions which u clearly have abt him. I dont.
.r u telling me he is not honest?
Why? Just coz he spoke about the issues present in the itv today and it touched a nerve of urs, which btw no one else felt..
Why should he speak for bepannaah when the live was about the TV in general...He is not an attention seeker that he will go on abt his show when the topic is much broader and bigger and needs to be addressed.

So if someone is not a whistle blower or a reformer, he doesnt have guts?
So u either speak what YOU clearly want them to speak or go all out and take d system down with one speech?
Wah wah..what a profound thought..

He was sharing his opinion which he did like the other 6 panelists.
Calling him a coward for that is Really pathetic.

And then u claim u dont badmouth him And dont hate him. 👏
Ur every word drip of the venom for him and yes u need not be explicit. i can read between d lines,even if u cant.

And you are the only one who is labelling him here..no one else is doing that..



Now u want new definitions ...so Indian govt from now onwards should allow to cast every one to cast unlimited votes and can call it FAIR election ..I never knew it is called FAIR

Not every one can afford multiple sms nor have the time to vote multiple times what is fair is level playing ground for each one and casting one person one vote is level playing ground ..since not alll have the time to vote multiple times even if they want to vote multiple times and that wil, result in unfair election


Now coming to honesty chanting or labeling honest does not make a person honest ..actions speak of honesty and he is just an average Joe who can't raise his voice against internal politics and let it be like that..I am not asking him to raise his voice neither I am labeling him with a tag called honesty .,just for the sake of it some one asked him (Not in present chat) about why bepanah was off from screen and he said he does not know ..lol ..and u call this honesty.i am not at all asking him to reveal nor I label him as honest ..he is just an average Joe who has his limits and can't cross them for same of his career ..accept that

Now reading between the lines perhaps u read too much that does not exist so u feel jealousy and honesty which are non existent
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Posted: 6 years ago

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Now u want new definitions ...so Indian govt from now onwards should allow to cast every one to cast unlimited votes and can call it FAIR election ..I never knew it is called FAIR

Not every one can afford multiple sms nor have the time to vote multiple times what is fair is level playing ground for each one and casting one person one vote is level playing ground ..since not alll have the time to vote multiple times even if they want to vote multiple times and that wil, result in unfair election

Do you know how much govt. spends in every single election. And are you seriously comparing voting of an award show to the voting of govt. that will run the country for next 5 years with all sort of positives & negatives? What do these award websites do? Set up a website & ask people to vote & not employ literally no security measure except for captcha to ensure Bots don't misuse it. They don't care if there is multiple voting or not. Are you seriously comparing a procedure mentioned the Constitution of the nation to that of a award show which has new winners in every year as per shows on air.

Not everyone is doing multiple voting either. Only some dedicated, hard core fans did it. And every single fandom has such dedicated fans who would devote themselves to vote only to see their favorites win. Neither is everyone expected to vote unlimited times. One can vote as they wish. Some vote for once & some vote multiple times on their own accord & time & not because of some force on them.


Now coming to honesty chanting or labeling honest does not make a person honest ..actions speak of honesty and he is just an average Joe who can't raise his voice against internal politics and let it be like that..I am not asking him to raise his voice neither I am labeling him with a tag called honesty .,just for the sake of it some one asked him (Not in present chat) about why bepanah was off from screen and he said he does not know ..lol ..and u call this honesty.i am not at all asking him to reveal nor I label him as honest ..he is just an average Joe who has his limits and can't cross them for same of his career ..accept that

The debate was on the current trend on ITV & not on any particular show or channel. IV asked that question about that & every panelist gave their views on that. No one was asked about internal politics on one show. And they did speak on internal politics as well on how script is changed as per whims & fancies of channels.

Was he asked about BP? No. Was he asked about abrupt ending? No. That IV had literally no question about that. And still you are bringing all sort of assumptions from your side to convict him & crucify him on cross of your opinions.

What is he supposed to say to the hypothetical question. He need not say anything. He wasn't the only one to make the final call about ending the show. His individual views on that ending don't matter since it was a team decision & issue of differences between PH & Channel.

And let me know of a human being without limits but are we supposed to ignore somethings if people are trying to highlight them in their limits. Should I ignore culture of nepotism & sexism perpetuated in the entertainment industry even if someone highlights it within their limits only.

Have you even read what has been said in these 38 pages? Or are you so adamant to not listen & understand at all.

Now reading between the lines perhaps u read too much that does not exist so u feel jealousy and honesty which are non existent

And no we don't read too much. We read exactly what is meant to be said. It's you who is playing on extremes. None of us are doing it.


Mine in Bold.

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