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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: dreamy.tiara


Agreed. Felt bad for Zoya though. She had to go through all of that silently, and hear that Yash wanted to divorce her because their marriage had problems..which indirectly meant she was a bad wife.

Yeah, hope so... The patch-up is under process, as the segments are showing.


That's the only point I felt was wrong in Papa Hooda's argument. He didn't have to drag Zoya into it and say that she was a bad wife. In all sense, Zoya was not a bad wife. She did care immensely about him. The only problem in her marriage was that she wanted to live in a fairytale but unfortunately that's not possible. I always believed that AdiYa were good spouses and PooSh were completely wrong in going behind their backs like that. The only problem I have with Zoya's and Yash's marriage is that Zoya seemed completely unaware of the things in Yash's life, like the most basic thing, his favourite food. How can you live with someone for 5 years and not know about his favourite food? Also Zoya was completely unaware of what was happening in Yash's company or his life. She just naively thought that everything was going perfect in their life. That was the only thing odd about Zoya and Yash's married life. But even that don't make her a bad wife at all. So in that point, Papa Hooda was completely wrong.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: dreamy.tiara

Hi folks! 😃

Don't be surprised by my unexpected thread. 😆 Tomorrow is holiday for Eid and I was working late. So I decided to share my views after I calmed down a bit.

Okay, I admit, I went a little berserk watching the precap. I felt it was uncalled for especially since AdiYa have started being nice with each other. Completely emotional reaction on my part. And I didn't try to justify either of them.

Now coming to my point:

Adi had imposed a condition on his dad: either he saves both Zoya and him or just Zoya. Mr. Hooda, on the other hand, always wanted to save his family and reputation... and his raaz. Hence, both Adi - his son and Pooja - his DIL, are his priority. So on his entire chessboard, he only found Yash on whom there are no constraints to save reputation. He is insignificant to Mr. Hooda. And he was anyway dead. 😛

So, in order to he mold the case according to his given constraints, he put all the blame on Yash. Which is a smart move as a lawyer. 👏 (This is sounding like an LPP problem 😆)


Now, coming to Zoya. In the current situation she has to bear Yash's apyash (i.e. defamation). Being his widow, and with the pain of his betrayal still fresh, she is not able to bear it and feels that it somewhat maligns their marital relationship as well, to some extent. (That is, she failed as a wife when her husband was depressed) But she doesn't know what lies on the other side of the stakes. It was Adi. If Mr. Hooda had failed to save both of them, Adi would have taken all the blame on himself and it too would have pained Zoya.

So after Zoya's and Adi's emotional outbursts are over, I hope Zoya would get to know the truth, see the other side of the coin; and Adi would understand Zoya's feelings. Then both would realize each other's pain, like always, and patch-up.

Finally, mujhe mein samajh aya. 😆... It's not about the slap/argument at all, it is about what the stakes are. 😉


Thanks for reading it with your immense patience. Do share your views. 😳
Signing off!


PS: Eid Mubarak folks! 🤗


- Tia


The stakes either Yash or Aditya. It all happened because Aditya didn't leave Zoya out for option on the table for Mr.Harshwardhan Hooda. Harshwardhan Hooda really played well.

The Arora's deserve to know what is to malign Aditya's name placing false accusation of affair and what not."When the enemy hits you You don't hit back harder. You bury them alive."That's how you do it. Now all the assets of Yash Arora will be seized to pay off the loans and with no insurance claim both Mahi and Madhu will be left to the roads.

I understand that indirectly Zoya being upset over fact of being made responsible for Driving a man to bankruptcy, then depression and finally suicide taking another woman's life along with his own. But I definitely don't understand what kind of sadistic pleasure Zoya derives by sticking to her in laws. Would she ever choose Aditya or even her family over her in-laws in near future. I don't see her doing that and hence I'm glad she didn't have to make the choice. Hope this time she is shipped to Massourie by her parents to get rid of the Yash's ghost in her life.
Edited by enlightenme - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
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@tiara a very beautiful post and I applaud you for this. Want to add some more points to theory of constraints. See constraints is what make us take the wrong path and constraints is what makes us take the wrong path thinking this is right. We have been conditioned to behave in certain fashion under certain constraints. And one such constraints is post marriage a girl's first priority is hubby family and if go any extend to satisfy ur mil. So between adi with whom her relation is not defined and madhu her sasumma zoya concern is madhu. For zoya to realize it's folly she has to lose something really precious because of madhu. Now madhu told zoya has not killed her son and zoya is indebted to her. The other possibility that can nullify madhu is anjana. For that adiya has to be formally married where between madhu the mother and anjana the mother zoya will have to chose. Between yash the man who cheated her and adi the man who stood by her she will have to chose. Where she will have to speak the truth and wherever truth is victory will be there. She told she has problem with lie and she will be forced to stand up for truth and truth alone. It is easy to chose between right and wrong. But it is difficult to choose the most right between two rights and least wrong among two wrongs. Constraints makes u go through this and u win the war by managing those constraints which adiya doesn't know at this point.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: janecastle


That's the only point I felt was wrong in Papa Hooda's argument. He didn't have to drag Zoya into it and say that she was a bad wife. In all sense, Zoya was not a bad wife. She did care immensely about him. The only problem in her marriage was that she wanted to live in a fairytale but unfortunately that's not possible. I always believed that AdiYa were good spouses and PooSh were completely wrong in going behind their backs like that. The only problem I have with Zoya's and Yash's marriage is that Zoya seemed completely unaware of the things in Yash's life, like the most basic thing, his favourite food. How can you live with someone for 5 years and not know about his favourite food? Also Zoya was completely unaware of what was happening in Yash's company or his life. She just naively thought that everything was going perfect in their life. That was the only thing odd about Zoya and Yash's married life. But even that don't make her a bad wife at all. So in that point, Papa Hooda was completely wrong.



Zoya must have been pretty young when she decided to run away with Yash and get married. The wish for a fairytale marriage is part of her immaturity and naivety of somewhat-younger Zoya, who lived like a princess at Abbu's place and believed in princess fairytales. Also, I think Yash must have been her first love, since she grew up in a protected environment. So, whatever mistakes she made in her marriage; not knowing little things about Yash, not understanding his inner turmoil, living in her fairytale and not really being aware about his life.. are mainly due to her inexperience, immaturity and naivety.

But the success of their marriage was not only Zoya's responsibility. Yash too had an important role to play: to communicate with her his feelings, his fears, his dreams... He did not really share himself with Zoya. How would Zoya do that alone? She had already given her entire life to him.

Papa Hooda couldn't help but bring up ZoSh's unsuccessful marriage, because the prosecution lawyer had already submitted the divorce papers signed by Yash in the court. He was obligated to explain that part for the sake of case. But, yes, he should have been a little more sensitive to Zoya... BTW, it was Ashish who said Yash needed lots of money to satisfy demands of his family.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: enlightenme


The stakes either Yash or Aditya. It all happened because Aditya didn't leave Zoya out for option on the table for Mr.Harshwardhan Hooda. Harshwardhan Hooda really played well.

The Arora's deserve to know what is to malign Aditya's name placing false accusation of affair and what not."When the enemy hits you You don't hit back harder. You bury them alive."That's how you do it. Now all the assets of Yash Arora will be seized to pay off the loans and with no insurance claim both Mahi and Madhu will be left to the roads.

I understand that indirectly Zoya being upset over fact of being made responsible for Driving a man to bankruptcy, then depression and finally suicide taking another woman's life along with his own. But I definitely don't understand what kind of sadistic pleasure Zoya derives by sticking to her in laws. Would she ever choose Aditya or even her family over her in-laws in near future. I don't see her doing that and hence I'm glad she didn't have to make the choice. Hope this time she is shipped to Massourie by her parents to get rid of the Yash's ghost in her life.


@Bold: That's exactly how Mr. Hooda's psyche worked. He wanted to give back to the Aroras, especially Mahi, for testifying against AdiYa. But Zoya stopped him and he was frustrated. I think Zoya took the right decision then, because then the prosecution lawyer would have said Adi rejected Mahi for Zoya. Finally, Mr. Hooda used Yash's bankruptcy to his advantage.

I think when you love two different people in two different universe, both equations are so unique that making a choice is difficult. It's like choosing between two different pieces of one's heart. I wish Zoya never has to make a choice, for it would be very painful for her. But if she ever has to make a choice, after she falls in love with Adi and gets married to him, I have no doubt that she would choose Adi over Yash. She would honor his love, exactly he honored her trust on him.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: shruthiravi

@tiara a very beautiful post and I applaud you for this. Want to add some more points to theory of constraints. See constraints is what make us take the wrong path and constraints is what makes us take the wrong path thinking this is right. We have been conditioned to behave in certain fashion under certain constraints. And one such constraints is post marriage a girl's first priority is hubby family and if go any extend to satisfy ur mil. So between adi with whom her relation is not defined and madhu her sasumma zoya concern is madhu. For zoya to realize it's folly she has to lose something really precious because of madhu. Now madhu told zoya has not killed her son and zoya is indebted to her. The other possibility that can nullify madhu is anjana. For that adiya has to be formally married where between madhu the mother and anjana the mother zoya will have to chose. Between yash the man who cheated her and adi the man who stood by her she will have to chose. Where she will have to speak the truth and wherever truth is victory will be there. She told she has problem with lie and she will be forced to stand up for truth and truth alone. It is easy to chose between right and wrong. But it is difficult to choose the most right between two rights and least wrong among two wrongs. Constraints makes u go through this and u win the war by managing those constraints which adiya doesn't know at this point.



Hi Shruti, good to see you here. And thank you! 😊

Very beautiful explanation on constraints. Especially @Bold. 👏 I agree, Zoya is still bound by the constraints of her wedding band. She still thinks like a DIL for Madhu, even after so much happened.. betrayal by Yash, Mahi, Madhu's slap.. She has problem with lie, but the lie Mr. Hooda said the court is more honorable than the actual murky truth.

AdiYa had started to forge a deeper bond through the jungle track, where they started to fulfill the first four wedding vows they took, one after the other. They connected on the basis of their pain. The current conflict between them is necessary to connect them beyond their pain, where they may have to choose between their past and each other. To understand their priorities consciously and further develop that initial bond of trust. This case would haunt them again in future, maybe after they get married. This conflict only prepares them to face that.
Edited by dreamy.tiara - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Lets leave the inference made by Mr.Hooda in the court. For argument sake, lets consider only the observations' made.
- gift shop. This is very easy and clean.
- landing the flight for chest pain - again, no second thoughts. Adi is a pilot and not a doc; and lets assume, someone calling out chest pain' and one other enquiring, is it gas? - what will we make of that person - insensitive? There rests the case.
- interns. No surprises there too though it was so kiddish of RV to try influencing them by gorce; does he think, he would have gotten away, doing such? Pressure tactics work with individual; not group of people.
- the divorce lawyer. Again, we knew of the papers, the sign, no-sign. Though am wondering would they go the same lawyer displaying their hidden relationship? Or did they meet him as two different clients on diffrrent days? It wasnt clear to me.
- Ashish - were there any surprises there? None. He said all that was said before - by Arora family, by Adi, realisation by Zoya herself (during the password sequence), that she had no understanding of the financial troubles. Just that he added two extra cents as his observations; and his unheeded advices. And he was pulled out of his exile, aaahheemm!
- psychiatrist - if this is not a planted witness, again he said what he is aware of. Slightly dramtised version i felt.

To me, till this point, there were no differences. The trouble ensued when these pieces were put together. To each his own scenario. And Mr.Hooda pulled a fast one and showed the world a mirage! If there are 5 scenes, changing the order of how it is said, has an effect to alter the story altogether. And that exactly is the case now.

None at fault. But to each, the other looks wrong. The strangeness of it all.


PS: i was replying to something you raised in your post; and I ended up on a totally different plain. And gor the life of me, unable to recollect; and just ended with a rant.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: -Tulips-

U r absolutely right. It was indeed a smart move by Papa Hooda. Ek ko bachane ke liye ek ko toh phasana tha. Glad it was Yash! Today's episode was a blessing for Yash haters. Kya dhulai hui uski. 👏😆

I hope when Zoya confronts Adi in Monday's episode, Papa Hooda lets her know Adi's conditions, how he forced him to fight for her. It's high time Zoya knows Adi's achhai too which he often hides from her.


yeah i agree... hope she realises that adi didn't do anything wrong
papa hooda should give her a strong reply before she leaves
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Posted: 7 years ago
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@tiara it is better they fight. It is better they know each other constraints. It is better they know if someone keeps ur trust it may not be the way u expect. Trusting means u trust that person 's path also to deliver on ur trust. When people say I trust u they expect things to happen the way they want. It doesn't happen due to constraints. Adi also needs to know the need to communicate his decision with the partner else the help won't be acknowledged.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: tvdluverr


I really hope one day she gets to know about Adi saving her on the terrace too. She never did find out, especially Adi being Adi got Arjun to take the credit.

Yeah!!! Now i want arjun outburst either on zoya or noor(she aterwards telling her the truth or listens their convo,etc.)
But i want to know her tge facts that adi has saved her a lot of times...
But i don't want the confrontation by adi..
I want it by someone else..

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