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Posted: 7 years ago
#11

Originally posted by: Cherryfairy

I think the TRP system is to be blamed for the state of Indian shows nowadays. If TRP is not satisfactory for a show makers are forced to change the track to the usual ghissa pitta crap there were quite a few shows whose story looked promising at the start but down the line they resorted to the same formula e.g saas bahu drama, multiple shaadi, kidnapping drama and other nonsense. Unless the industry decides to abolish this stupid TRP and find a better way to calculate ratings for a show taking into account overseas viewers most Indian serials will continue to be a crapfest.

Also indian tv producers never set a fixed number of episodes this leads to the story getting dragged and eventually loosing all charm this is why shows like SSK and Saathiya were on air for 5/6 years 😆

plus I think producers and even channels these days are just coming up with bogus shows for the sake of money nobody really cares for creativity anymore


The other day I was reading this comment in another post that when the CVs are forced to change the story because of TRP that's when it messes up and ends being a disaster!

It's better to end a show rather than ruining it's story and charavchar look at NK and Dil se dil Tak...I really don't understand how does colors even allowed that show to show 2 wives like this...I just watched one episode and my entire body cringed with diagust🤢
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Posted: 7 years ago
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You don't have to look anywhere else for the answer. We, the audience is the reason for this - Take us for example.

Bepannah is a show totally different with a set of characters who are so freakishly different form other leads on television currently. Zoya jaisi character TV par kahi nahi thi because shows are all about pulling the audience to watch strong naari shakti promotions. There is no other show that has so far tried to tell a story through flashbacks. That's an entirely innovative concept. Just because Zo is portrayed as naive (read as dumb by many people including myself initially), we could not accept such a role and there was a huge hue and cry to make her stronger etc. Aditya should not do this. Zo should not cry so much or else we won't watch the show etc. They should not promote manhandling, suicide etc.

But why though? If audience can accept makkhi and naagin kind of shit, they can accept suicide, infidelity and other stuff shown on the show which btw are something that happens in the real world on a daily basis. Was the show aimed to bring a social message to all of us? Did the showrunners say this show will be something we can all relate to?

No, they set out to bring us a different story about infidelity and of course its fiction so thoda drama banta hai. These are fictional characters with their own set of views/opinions and values.
It has only been a month and we have been clamoring for some change or the other every damn day. Every alternate day someone threatens to quit the show and declares someone they know already quit.

Now, how in the world would any creative showrunners build a story if we do not accept the way they want to tell the story? If they start taking audience poll on what they should start showing, then we can go back to supernatural thrillers and saas-bahu dramas as they know these work.

So in my opinion, we should all calm down and be positive about the show. Only if they receive encouragement, then the CVs can go ahead with what they want to actually tell us. Just accept this is what the plot is and this is what the characters are etched out to behave as. We owe that to the fantastic leads and the truly awesome channel and writer efforts to bring us something different. Instead of complaining just enjoy the show. Many won't agree with me. But I feel it is we, ourselves who are encouraging the trend of sucky kind of shows on tv right now.

Sorry for the long post but it had to be said! The pink is the point I was trying to make.

Edit - In the olden days, 90s and early 2000s, there were very less channels and less shows as well. And there was no social media awareness either. The shows would be considered good if the reviews by journalists and few by viewers who would write to the showrunners were good. So CVs had a lot of encouragement to experiment with characters and plots. If only everyone could unanimously provide that support to the creatives, we would have golden age of television.
Edited by V4o9 - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
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because now days producer only want to invest their money on making beautiful sets .they don want to stress on mind to think about new idea and even most of serial directions I'd so poor that is why no Ras while watching most of serial


pehle serial ko.dekhte samay Ras aata tha because actor producer and director r serious about acting direction and story but aaj kul serial ko dekh kar lagta hai bus Kisi tarah se story likho scene direct karo aur Ghar jaakur so jaao


pehle serial mein writer log ek scene likhne mein 2,3 din lagate they usme improvement hota tha pur aaj kul nahi hota aisa isliye serial mein woh charm nahi Raha jaisa pehle tha
Edited by surabhi01 - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
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@ Surabhi nice to see you here also
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: V4o9

You don't have to look anywhere else for the answer. We, the audience is the reason for this - Take us for example.


Bepannah is a show totally different with a set of characters who are so freakishly different form other leads on television currently. Zoya jaisi character TV par kahi nahi thi because shows are all about pulling the audience to watch strong naari shakti promotions. There is no other show that has so far tried to tell a story through flashbacks. That's an entirely innovative concept. Just because Zo is portrayed as naive (read as dumb by many people including myself initially), we could not accept such a role and there was a huge hue and cry to make her stronger etc. Aditya should not do this. Zo should not cry so much or else we won't watch the show etc. They should not promote manhandling, suicide etc.

But why though? If audience can accept makkhi and naagin kind of shit, they can accept suicide, infidelity and other stuff shown on the show which btw are something that happens in the real world on a daily basis. Was the show aimed to bring a social message to all of us? Did the showrunners say this show will be something we can all relate to?

No, they set out to bring us a different story about infidelity and of course its fiction so thoda drama banta hai. These are fictional characters with their own set of views/opinions and values.
It has only been a month and we have been clamoring for some change or the other every damn day. Every alternate day someone threatens to quit the show and declares someone they know already quit.

Now, how in the world would any creative showrunners build a story if we do not accept the way they want to tell the story? If they start taking audience poll on what they should start showing, then we can go back to supernatural thrillers and saas-bahu dramas as they know these work.

So in my opinion, we should all calm down and be positive about the show. Only if they receive encouragement, then the CVs can go ahead with what they want to actually tell us. Just accept this is what the plot is and this is what the characters are etched out to behave as. We owe that to the fantastic leads and the truly awesome channel and writer efforts to bring us something different. Instead of complaining just enjoy the show. Many won't agree with me. But I feel it is we, ourselves who are encouraging the trend of sucky kind of shows on tv right now.

Sorry for the long post but it had to be said! The pink is the point I was trying to make.

Edit - In the olden days, 90s and early 2000s, there were very less channels and less shows as well. And there was no social media awareness either. The shows would be considered good if the reviews by journalists and few by viewers who would write to the showrunners were good. So CVs had a lot of encouragement to experiment with characters and plots. If only everyone could unanimously provide that support to the creatives, we would have golden age of television.


Bang on girl bang on👏
You just spoke my mind. I was so frustrated to see the continuous rant about Zoya whereas, I felt her character was being DEVELOPED in a very good way. Like first it was shown that she is a cry baby then she tried to pull herself together and fight but logo ko usse bhi problem👏 some days ago I read this comment in the spoiler thread of "divorce papers" where the person was actually saying that how did her trust on yash broke in a day I was like jab trust tha tab bhi problem ab jaabe trust nahi ha tab bhi problem🤣
I can list down thousand shows which started with a unique theme but again changed to the typical kinds because audience were not "happy"

Bepannah has a very unique concept and extraordinary cast if this is handled carefully it will change into a diamond but we are sooo impatient that we don't even want to give it time.

This is true Social Media is a blessing but also a curse
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Posted: 7 years ago
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It is unfair to compare 90's with today's times. 90's was a different time when there were little choices on TV and whatever was served to us looked good and different. There were fewer channels and lesser competition.Also everyone had more or less just one TV for entertainment, so almost all family members used to watch TV together, The audience didn't have any exposure to foreign shows or content. Most did not have any access to Internet and endless possibilities it offered. The attention span since those times have become shorter and we want crispier stories. You cannot expect versatility on the same channel these days because I don't think that model works anymore in India. You have to change the channels to get different content but it is true that content is often of poor quality.
You can still see a lot of experimentation going on but most of them fail and get lost in the numbers game. To garner high TRP, most Indian TV producers seem to go for the tried and tested content which they deem as safest. And believe it or not, Bepannaah falls in this category. Colors is not bold enough to put some revolutionary content on prime time. Even as fans of Bepannah, we should not pretend that this show is anything new or out of the blue. It falls in the category of that tried and tested TRP garnering content. It is just old wine in new bottle. A lot of people didn't bother watching this show after first week because the show was nothing new. Yes it is true. No need to blame TRP aunties for it. It is just old wine in new bottle.

If you go to other forums, you will see people saying BP is a show running due to huge fandom of Jennifer and Harshad, nothing else. They don't find anything new in this show. So what people consider new differs vastly. 😊



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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: surabhi01

because now days producer only want to invest their money on making beautiful sets .they don want to stress on mind to think about new idea and even most of serial directions I'd so poor that is why no Ras while watching most of serial


pehle serial ko.dekhte samay Ras aata tha because actor producer and director r serious about acting direction and story but aaj kul serial ko dekh kar lagta hai bus Kisi tarah se story likho scene direct karo aur Ghar jaakur so jaao


pehle serial mein writer log ek scene likhne mein 2,3 din lagate they usme improvement hota tha pur aaj kul nahi hota aisa isliye serial mein woh charm nahi Raha jaisa pehle tha



Itna time hai kis ke pass? Its the era of copy-paste sorry "inspired"
Just look around us most of the stories are Soo similar to each other
And even if they are not then after some time they are compelled to go down the similar path nahi tou trp kaise milenge
Most of them are so regressive and illogical
God I sooo miss the early 2000 shows
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Posted: 7 years ago
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There is such dearth of talented people behind the screens or people who have talent run away from the trp driven tv i guess...forget completely progressive or revolutionary shows...we don't have many simple/nice/likeable shows either...and I agree with the member who says bepannaah isn't exactly new or entirely different or progressive either...yes on paper it is supposed to be but execution wise adi zoya get similar scenes to almost all couples of indian tv get...the trip fall catch sequences for instant...is this how two people will get a second chance at love?through tripping and falling and cornering and forced hate dynamics...this is another thing that hindi tv PHs are obsessed with! The love hate dynamics.Can't the leads share an entirely different kind of relationship?Oh well...
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Also every single damn show is a love story no matter how popular a show is, the main theme of the show is just love/romance. horror, action, thriller, sci fi, comedy, period dramas and other genre shows are rarely made
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: SatoshiNakamoto

It is unfair to compare 90's with today's times. 90's was a different time when there were little choices on TV and whatever was served to us looked good and different. There were fewer channels and lesser competition.Also everyone had more or less just one TV for entertainment, so almost all family members used to watch TV together, The audience didn't have any exposure to foreign shows or content. Most did not have any access to Internet and endless possibilities it offered. The attention span since those times have become shorter and we want crispier stories. You cannot expect versatility on the same channel these days because I don't think that model works anymore in India. You have to change the channels to get different content but it is true that content is often of poor quality.

You can still see a lot of experimentation going on but most of them fail and get lost in the numbers game. To garner high TRP, most Indian TV producers seem to go for the tried and tested content which they deem as safest. And believe it or not, Bepannaah falls in this category. Colors is not bold enough to put some revolutionary content on prime time. Even as fans of Bepannah, we should not pretend that this show is anything new or out of the blue. It falls in the category of that tried and tested TRP garnering content. It is just old wine in new bottle. A lot of people didn't bother watching this show after first week because the show was nothing new. Yes it is true. No need to blame TRP aunties for it. It is just old wine in new bottle.

If you go to other forums, you will see people saying BP is a show running due to huge fandom of Jennifer and Harshad, nothing else. They don't find anything new in this show. So what people consider new differs vastly. 😊




I beg to differ 😊

I don't think Bepannah is old wine in new bottle... I have seen many shows and concepts but this one did attract me from the very first promo. Not because Harshad Jennifer was there, I have said this before I was never a fan of theirs until now so yeah they were not the reason for me to watch the show. As I said earlier for the past few years there were very less shows with good concepts and despite of having such disgusting concepts those shows RULED the trp chart and that is why many lost faith on trps. And some shows which started on a very good note ended up being bad because they were forced to change the concept by the fans (somewhere I am smelling the same thing would happen to this show). From my POV the characters are different and the story is captivating it's just we as viewers are Soo impatient that we need everything now and here and after a while when there is nothing to show and the CVs need up showing lame things then again we are the ones complaining "why are they showing this".👏 still it's just my POV if you don't like the show thats your choice 😊


Now coming to the 0ld vs New shows, YES things have changed vastly and now there are many channels but how many good shows are there? Very few because most CVs try to be in the trp chart thus ends up making typical shows.

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