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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Ashley_m

I could Sabah! He clearly didn't want Bon mooning over him instead of studying. The anniversary outburst seemed more like him losing control completely, which is in line with Ani's character. AE came into the picture only when Bon confronted Ani about the laal gaal.

vaise i was thinlking something whatevr they are showing rn is heading towards track to make bon move completely out of this bubble

rn bon is completely into patni mode, dreaming about ani, teenage feelings, her trying to become his wife is because of societal influence and her mistaking it as husband wife relationship but bon knows nothing of hubby wifey relation, she said along with her maa ani is her world whom she looks up to, he is his guru, mentor,friend and rakshak babu and bon means in that way only, if there ws a bon who would have got emotional maturity, she oj knowing truth would woprk for her slef respect,feel guilty, be angry towards society and mosi importantly distant herself from ani and build walls to preotec herself but here it comes with age when we think about us and our problems like ani did for self introspection and his breakdown as he is an adult, bon is a growing teen thrust into so many emotional pains she is unable to understanbd,bon has still not understood thee gravoity of situation, she felt guilty when ani said u are bojh to me and her immediate reaction was to leave house which was taken by her but kaka influenced her saying u are wife, u are running away and u need to build this relation and is teaching her to become sulakshana patni,bon is listening to society that she has faults one thing i liked she confronted those ladies saying i am not fault ,netiher i am this and she cried when kaka said people find faults in wife and as per her she supoorts ani,takes care of him and does whatevr he wants her to do then how she ahs not given him happiness??

bon does not know feeling of love which can happen with anyone and i guess our future bon will have love with someone else but ony to realise her true love is ani when she is distant from ani and all,i so want as ani is falling for azaadi while he should not then why cant bon even like someone else and break stereotypes liking a person does not mean to love as love involves sacrifices, happiness of that person

bon has a very pure heart wehre words like self respect, her identity and her emoptions are there but she is deeply rooted in family given by ani,kaka and maa that she is unable to get angry or hurt with someone and make walls, for her she gives unconditional realtionship and selfless loyalty to others,

right now she loves ani platonicaly but romantic and loving a partner will come once she gains emotional maturity

this will give her all reasons fo breakdown be it on her life harsh truthd, she is unable to understand and digest what has happened as she still did not understand the gravity of situation that is why she forgave ani and said she understands him but a grown up girl woild not have those things insetad she would be frustated with her pain and people indifference and them taking her for granted hat she would have outburst and lkeave them , it will take time for bon to digest this truth and gio through self realisation and self breakdown, that is what ani knows , he knows bon is not in love with him , she just respects him and bon does not see hubby in him and that is whyt polygamy at this age is not correct becauyse with people around her an dsocietal norms and expectations , she wont be able to bear it, she needs to comd out of her zone and embrace the harsh reality and i want m,akers to show this by end of track and bon distancingherself fro asni, it is required if we want a true relation of love between bon and ani, ani will relaise what damage has bveen done to thsi poor soul whose innoncence is taken and then she will become fearless,savage and comd out of patnidharma, wife keeping all expectations and all and ani pining love from her is another aspect to realise what is bon to him in a true sense and how after going through all injustices, she starts keeping her dignity in front of ani, society and even kaka as kaka is an. orthodox masn and he keeps expectations from bon to be grahlaskahmi,adarsh bahu and patni but tell me if bon develpoed crush on anoyher boy in school ,wont kaka be upset with her or worse sever ties with her??

bon does not know essence of husband wife and what is expected by society from her to give ani as wife rights, if she knows and understands it, she will feel devastated by society and herself as what she went throtugh at young age, so impact of tiurth revelation will come grdually baaki it is upto makers as what they want to show

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Posted: 4 years ago
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I say no.

He is absolutely right in everything he is thinking right now. He is young and doesn't already have a romantic interest in mind, so it is absolutely natural for him to get attracted to Manorama, who is actually the kind of woman he wants every Indian woman to be, including Bondita.

The attraction is totally natural, and he is also going the extra mile of suppressing his desires for Bondita's sake. He could have acted upon his instincts and tried to woo Manorama or could have asked Bondita to leave and make him a free man again. But he is still trying to get back to his mission of educating Bondita to be a barrister.


Also he is not a pedophile, so he will never be attracted to Bondita for a few years, come what may. So a diametric turn of his thoughts in Bondita's favour are also not gonna happen.


Unfortunately he is not processing it right. He needs to understand that Bondita needs a pep talk about what marital relationships involve and why they are not right for her at this age, like he did for her for menstruation or during her PTSD after the molestation attempt.

But his own internal conflict is making him want to escape the discussion everytime, plus societal pressure is forcing him into angry outbursts.

What he doesn't realize is that he is pushing Bondita right into the arms of KSG's orthodox thinking and Sampoorna's conspiracies. I am hoping he realizes this soon.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: NiharikaMishra

I say no.

He is absolutely right in everything he is thinking right now. He is young and doesn't already have a romantic interest in mind, so it is absolutely natural for him to get attracted to Manorama, who is actually the kind of woman he wants every Indian woman to be, including Bondita.

The attraction is totally natural, and he is also going the extra mile of suppressing his desires for Bondita's sake. He could have acted upon his instincts and tried to woo Manorama or could have asked Bondita to leave and make him a free man again. But he is still trying to get back to his mission of educating Bondita to be a barrister.


Also he is not a pedophile, so he will never be attracted to Bondita for a few years, come what may. So a diametric turn of his thoughts in Bondita's favour are also not gonna happen.


Unfortunately he is not processing it right. He needs to understand that Bondita needs a pep talk about what marital relationships involve and why they are not right for her at this age, like he did for her for menstruation or during her PTSD after the molestation attempt.

But his own internal conflict is making him want to escape the discussion everytime, plus societal pressure is forcing him into angry outbursts.

What he doesn't realize is that he is pushing Bondita right into the arms of KSG's orthodox thinking and Sampoorna's conspiracies. I am hoping he realizes this soon.

Agree buddy bt i thnk even ARC wanna confront him frst wat kind of relation he gonna to maintain till end of their life he say mentoor or dosth bt till wen it goes till end of their life or he wanna Bon to grow up and decide whether ARC vl b her life partner or someone else she choose as of her own choice and more over ARC always says he is man who choose responsibility frst bt vl only remain his responsibility forever or his responsibility is to chabge society in name of Bon's carrier and studies if tat so here Bon too involved and her accepentance over ths topic is always never asked by ARC, y tat so... i am too not blaming ARC as of all bfre situation only Bon is involved so ARC easily found solution and brought her to best path bt as of now situation involves ARC too so now even ARC to analyse him more btr bfre he reacts to Bon over things......

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Hi there! Like you I watch BB on and off and I totally resonate with what you are saying. Bon is a child and Ani married her to save her. Like he rightfully said he used one malpractice to stop another. He used bal vivah to stop sati. He never thought of Bon as a wife. She was his responsibility and still is. He filled her maang with sindoor coz he was left with no option. He was willing to be her guardian but the society never allowed that. Either Bondita could live as a man's wife or die as a man's widow. What choice did he have? Ani only wants to empower Bondita to make her a strong woman who can fight for her rights and pave way for other women to follow in her footsteps. And he is doing just that. He never mentally embraced the fact that he is married. He doesn't consider himself to be a husband. So how will he harbor those feelings for her? Had he accepted that fact, then maybe he would convince himself to wait for Bon to become an adult and pursue a married life like husband and wife. But his thoughts are no where close. Maybe after Bon grows up and becomes the embodiment of his ideals, he will start seeing her in a different light. She will no longer just be his responsibility but he will look at her like she is an equal, like his better half. But that's still a long way to go. Right now, Manorama is that woman who represents his vision for women. Donno what is in store for them and I hope Manorama doesn't become a negative character like Mini and Sampoorna. That will be so cliched.

Kaka Sasur is definitely a bad influence on her and all those crazy women around Bon including her evil cousin. I hope Bon focuses on her studies for now and Ani is absolutely right there. I just hope he doesn't marry Manorama. Last thing we need is sauten drama

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: NiharikaMishra

I say no.

He is absolutely right in everything he is thinking right now. He is young and doesn't already have a romantic interest in mind, so it is absolutely natural for him to get attracted to Manorama, who is actually the kind of woman he wants every Indian woman to be, including Bondita.

The attraction is totally natural, and he is also going the extra mile of suppressing his desires for Bondita's sake. He could have acted upon his instincts and tried to woo Manorama or could have asked Bondita to leave and make him a free man again. But he is still trying to get back to his mission of educating Bondita to be a barrister.


Also he is not a pedophile, so he will never be attracted to Bondita for a few years, come what may. So a diametric turn of his thoughts in Bondita's favour are also not gonna happen.


Unfortunately he is not processing it right. He needs to understand that Bondita needs a pep talk about what marital relationships involve and why they are not right for her at this age, like he did for her for menstruation or during her PTSD after the molestation attempt.

But his own internal conflict is making him want to escape the discussion everytime, plus societal pressure is forcing him into angry outbursts.

What he doesn't realize is that he is pushing Bondita right into the arms of KSG's orthodox thinking and Sampoorna's conspiracies. I am hoping he realizes this soon.

You said it right, getting attracted is a very humanly thing to happen. It is in no way under our control. But does Ani considers it to be an attraction only? Are the makers showing it as an attraction? They are glorifying "pehli nazar mei" pyaar. Does love at first sight exists? No, it doesn't, it's simply attraction/infatuation and terming it as love is disesteeming the actual meaning of love.

Had it been Mini, that would have made some sense too because of all the years they have stayed together. But in that case too they completely made it look like an infatuation and portrayed it as if Ani is simply having the wrong feeling or wrong notions about love, and that Bon is the only one who can actually be in that position. A lot of instances has been executed and shown in that way only and there is no denying of that fact.

Nobody was interested in seeing Ani getting romantically involved with Bon, the audience was content with their pure relationship.

About Ani outburst due to societal pressures-

Firstly, Ani got to know about Bon's behaviour way before the function. He could have avoided attending it and could have applied the same for Bon too. Also, he knows about his temperament. He has experienced it multiple times regarding how he has lost his cool due to societal pressures. Why on earth did he got ready and started attending it?

Secondly, Ani himself accepted that his outburst on Bondita was due the presence of Manorama because obviously there was no as such triggering thing in the entire function. There was no expectation from him to behave intimately with Bondita that day. If it was the SR day, it would have still made some sense. But it was just like another function that is held at his home. He just had to behave as a married person just like he behaved during all the other previous functions be it during the Puja, or during Sampoorna's reception, etc. Yes, I agree the photographer's behaviour was annoying, but that small thing is in no way an excuse to behave such harshly. When Bondita questioned him, he could have simply agreed to that because it was a public place and after that he could have made her understood personally. All these time you behaved as married person in front of the society, and then suddenly you claim the relationship to be null and void in front of that same society, refusing the existence of your wife and that too publicly is completely vague and flipping. If you don't want to accept a child as your wife, you should have prevented it from happening previously too. And even if you don't consider her as your wife, behaving with a child like that publicly is not acceptable too. Again, this does not come into the picture because Ani himself confessed about the outburst being provoked due to his love for Manorama only. Not accepting a thing even if it lies in front of our eyes is something one's own unacceptability and there is nothing that can be done about it.

Thirdly, there is enough of Ani succumbing to pressure. Like I mentioned above, he has gone through these multiple times, most prominently during the BW track. The first and even the second time can be considered as a mistake, but the beauty of mistakes is people learn from it. Ani in no way did learn from it. Abuses against women arise from the same lame excuse of "succumbing to pressure" by man, and it's high time this needs to be stopped. A man needs to control his pressures and temperament. Repeatedly humiliating and then naming it always as an outcome of societal pressure is vague. Public humiliation of women is wrong and tv shows normalising it is just another face of the patriarchal society.

Edited by Indira12 - 4 years ago
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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Indira12

You said it right, getting attracted is a very humanly thing to happen. It is in no way under our control. But does Ani considers it to be an attraction only? Are the makers showing it as an attraction? They are glorifying "pehli nazar mei" pyaar. Does love at first sight exists? No, it doesn't, it's simply attraction/infatuation and terming it as love is disesteeming the actual meaning of love.

Nobody was interested in seeing Ani getting romantically involved with Bon, the audience was content with their pure relationship.

About Ani outburst due to societal pressures-

Firstly, Ani got to know about Bon's behaviour way before the function. He could have avoided attending it and could have applied the same for Bon too. Also, he knows about his temperament. He has experienced it multiple times regarding how he has lost his cool due to societal pressures. Why on earth did he got ready and started attending it?

Secondly, Ani himself accepted that his outburst on Bondita was due the presence of Manorama because obviously there was no as such triggering thing in the entire function. There was no expectation from him to behave intimately with Bondita that day. If it was the SR day, it would have still made some sense. But it was just like another function that is held at his home. He just had to behave as a married person just like he behaved during all the other previous functions be it during the Puja, or during Sampoorna's reception, etc. Yes, I agree the photographer's behaviour was annoying, but that small thing is in no way an excuse to behave such harshly. When Bondita questioned him, he could have simply agreed to that because it was a public place and after that he could have made her understood personally. All these time you behaved as married person in front of the society, and then suddenly you claim the relationship to be null and void in front of that same society, refusing the existence of your wife and that too publicly is completely vague and flipping. If you don't want to accept a child as your wife, you should have prevented it from happening previously too. And even if you don't consider her as your wife, behaving with a child like that publicly is not acceptable too. Again, this does not come into the picture because Ani himself confessed about the outburst being provoked due to his love for Manorama only. Not accepting a thing even if it lies in front of our eyes is something one's own unacceptability and there is nothing that can be done about it.

Thirdly, there is enough of Ani succumbing to pressure. Like I mentioned above, he has gone through these multiple times, most prominently during the BW track. The first and even the second time can be considered as a mistake, but the beauty of mistakes is people learn from it. Ani in no way did learn from it. Abuses against women arise from the same lame excuse of "succumbing to pressure" by man, and it's high time this needs to be stopped. A man needs to control his pressures and temperament. Public humiliation of women is wrong and tv shows normalising it is just another face of the patriarchal society.

I completely agreee...anirudhs outbursts have always been treated lightly....This has become a repeated pattern...

Sorry but making a scene publicly & then realising and apologizing in a half hearted way in private is in no way an apology....

And Denying d relationship publically after treating bon as a wife on multiple occasions according to his conviniece is also not forgivable!!

And u r right...no one wants to see ani & bon romancing...it about respecting d relation which he himself has validated numerous times without any so called societal pressure in privacy of their house & used as a tool whenever he wanted to win a argument.

Edited by Toto123 - 4 years ago
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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: ..RiMi..

The question should be - What is Love? 😊


Why would Ani fall in LOVE with Manorama ?


He met her hardly 3 to 4 days back. Except for the fact that she looks beautiful and her personality is admirable, what does Ani know of her that he should be falling in "Love" with her.


As per the current track it seems the makers are tying to show that Ani has merely fallen for her looks and personality... this feeling is not love. It is important not to glorify such feelings as true love.


These infatuation and attraction driven feelings are responsible for so many breakups and divorces because people do not understand that it's simply Infatuation which could be taken as a simple human emotion. But most people start thinking it is love and force such emotions to grow ultimately spoiling their good relations đŸ„ș


Even for those who are Single, Love might start with infatuation but it is not necessary that all infatuations must end with Love. There are so many young people out there who mistake their attractions with love and later regret it. So it is important to know that Love needs patience and it needs time. "Love" at first sight is actually a myth!


Love is not about having those giddy feelings and attraction when u see a beautiful face and an adorable personality , love is a lot more than that, it makes you completely dedicated to a person, but these things cannot happen unless you KNOW THE PERSON WELL and trust me, it takes some time to know a person so well to actually fall in love with them. đŸ‘đŸŒ


Had these things applied on Ani and Manorama, I would have definitely understood that Ani is totally in his senses and he has found a soul mate in Manorama which he could not find in a 12 year old whom he did not consider his wife. But again, in that case he shouldn't have given her the impression of being her husband even for once. Because even if Ani does not accept her as a wife, she sees him as her husband.


I had no issues with Ani calling Bondita his responsibility earlier because he said that due to society's expectation of them having to consummate their marriage. But the moment he insulted her publicly and called her zimmedari, denied having pati ka rishta with her and later confessed that he did all that because or his feelings for Manorama, I did not like it. Ani is equally responsible for Bondita having wife like feelings for him because he supported her Pati Patni jaap all this while. Now just because her expectations are growing he is just backing off and shouting instead of making her understand ? Not done! đŸ‘ŽđŸŒ


In the end, neither of them should be forced to fall in love with each other. If Ani cannot accept her as a wife, he NEEDS to break ties with her because he cannot keep her married to him and have the liberty to fall in love with every other woman he finds attractive just because his wife is a child and he married her unwillingly.


Similarly, Bon should also not be forced to love Anirudh if he cannot accept her love.


No matter what Anirudh thinks, there is a reason why marriage ties were made. It is a life long commitment and both sides needs to follow it with loyalty.


There is absolutely no need to have romantic feelings but definitely there needs to be trust & faithfulness. It's just that if they have a platonic married life but both fall in love with some other person later, there is no point or being in the relation just for the sake of society..

@UL- meri mann ki baat đŸ‘đŸŒâ€ïž

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: ..RiMi..

The question should be - What is Love? 😊


Why would Ani fall in LOVE with Manorama ?


He met her hardly 3 to 4 days back. Except for the fact that she looks beautiful and her personality is admirable, what does Ani know of her that he should be falling in "Love" with her.


As per the current track it seems the makers are tying to show that Ani has merely fallen for her looks and personality... this feeling is not love. It is important not to glorify such feelings as true love.


These infatuation and attraction driven feelings are responsible for so many breakups and divorces because people do not understand that it's simply Infatuation which could be taken as a simple human emotion. But most people start thinking it is love and force such emotions to grow ultimately spoiling their good relations đŸ„ș


Even for those who are Single, Love might start with infatuation but it is not necessary that all infatuations must end with Love. There are so many young people out there who mistake their attractions with love and later regret it. So it is important to know that Love needs patience and it needs time. "Love" at first sight is actually a myth!


Love is not about having those giddy feelings and attraction when u see a beautiful face and an adorable personality , love is a lot more than that, it makes you completely dedicated to a person, but these things cannot happen unless you KNOW THE PERSON WELL and trust me, it takes some time to know a person so well to actually fall in love with them. đŸ‘đŸŒ


Had these things applied on Ani and Manorama, I would have definitely understood that Ani is totally in his senses and he has found a soul mate in Manorama which he could not find in a 12 year old whom he did not consider his wife. But again, in that case he shouldn't have given her the impression of being her husband even for once. Because even if Ani does not accept her as a wife, she sees him as her husband.


I had no issues with Ani calling Bondita his responsibility earlier because he said that due to society's expectation of them having to consummate their marriage. But the moment he insulted her publicly and called her zimmedari, denied having pati ka rishta with her and later confessed that he did all that because or his feelings for Manorama, I did not like it. Ani is equally responsible for Bondita having wife like feelings for him because he supported her Pati Patni jaap all this while. Now just because her expectations are growing he is just backing off and shouting instead of making her understand ? Not done! đŸ‘ŽđŸŒ


In the end, neither of them should be forced to fall in love with each other. If Ani cannot accept her as a wife, he NEEDS to break ties with her because he cannot keep her married to him and have the liberty to fall in love with every other woman he finds attractive just because his wife is a child and he married her unwillingly.


Similarly, Bon should also not be forced to love Anirudh if he cannot accept her love.


No matter what Anirudh thinks, there is a reason why marriage ties were made. It is a life long commitment and both sides needs to follow it with loyalty.


There is absolutely no need to have romantic feelings but definitely there needs to be trust & faithfulness. It's just that if they have a platonic married life but both fall in love with some other person later, there is no point or being in the relation just for the sake of society...












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you deserves a standout applause for this post Rimi... You said everything so delicately .. I agree with your each and every words..

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Indira12

You said it right, getting attracted is a very humanly thing to happen. It is in no way under our control. But does Ani considers it to be an attraction only? Are the makers showing it as an attraction? They are glorifying "pehli nazar mei" pyaar. Does love at first sight exists? No, it doesn't, it's simply attraction/infatuation and terming it as love is disesteeming the actual meaning of love.

Had it been Mini, that would have made some sense too because of all the years they have stayed together. But in that case too they completely made it look like an infatuation and portrayed it as if Ani is simply having the wrong feeling or wrong notions about love, and that Bon is the only one who can actually be in that position. A lot of instances has been executed and shown in that way only and there is no denying of that fact.

Nobody was interested in seeing Ani getting romantically involved with Bon, the audience was content with their pure relationship.

About Ani outburst due to societal pressures-

Firstly, Ani got to know about Bon's behaviour way before the function. He could have avoided attending it and could have applied the same for Bon too. Also, he knows about his temperament. He has experienced it multiple times regarding how he has lost his cool due to societal pressures. Why on earth did he got ready and started attending it?



Yes, what Ani feels for Manorama is infatuation, but think about it. It is less about beauty and more about the kind of person she is. His frustration from life in general is that women around him are regressive, fighting over jewelry, men and putting other women down, or just meekly tolerating oppressively circumstances. He has fought them, corrected them and sympathized with them, but not one woman has been someone he could admire. This is precisely why he wanted to turn Bondita into that kind of woman.

When he saw Manorama, she was everything the other women were not, and what he wanted Bondita to be. Rather than infatuation or love, he is more in awe of her, shocked at her tenacity and resilience and sense of detachment to everything except her target.

His real love is the idea of that achiever woman which Manorama is but Bondita doesn't want to be.

While the sense of morality as well as societal pressure is also something that is irritating him, I think the real anger is the fact that Bondita is refusing to become that woman and wasting her time in things she doesn't even understand, in a way undermining all that he has done for her.

Why wouldn't you be angry at someone who is undoing something that is so important to you?

After all, even Aniruddh is still a young man, yet to learn how to deal with real life which is so different from books. Anger is as natural as his infatuation.

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Originally posted by: Toto123

I completely agreee...anirudhs outbursts have always been treated lightly....This has become a repeated pattern...

Sorry but making a scene publicly & then realising and apologizing in a half hearted way in private is in no way an apology....

And Denying d relationship publically after treating bon as a wife on multiple occasions according to his conviniece is also not forgivable!!

And u r right...no one wants to see ani & bon romancing...it about respecting d relation which he himself has validated numerous times without any so called societal pressure in privacy of their house & used as a tool whenever he wanted to win a argument.

Exactly Toto (is that right?😳)

The thing is does Ani realize that his action was wrong? Does the makers realize that is in no way acceptable? Because like you said, half hearted apology and that too privately gives the indication that Ani doesn't realizes his mistake and makers too don't see anything wrong in that.

Still, hoping against hope that they do give an explanation to the scene in the future, make Ani realize his fault and provide an apology to Bon in the most convincing way possible. And this time Bon should be the one who points out his faults and make him realize, that too publicly.

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