Major Historical and Cultural Goof Ups in a show based on History - Page 2

Originally posted by: Aelin

Exactly I was about to point it out. The only true thing was his idea of co existence with the British. Dude supported Indians going to WW1 for their sake. Smh so hard.

EXACTLY!!! After that stint, people began to doubt Gandhi and his Ahimsa ideology. Before Gandhi's words of sending men to fight, Indian men used to provide medical and hospitality services to the soldiers fighting the war, but he wrote to the british that Indian men would fight.

Totally agree to this post. It is a major goof up on part of the CVs. It is true that Mahatma Gandhi was never a proponent of women empowerment, as in them working professionally or earning for the family. His beliefs were such that education for women must only be for ensuring family's welfare.

In fact, Netaji Subhash Chandra Bose was more vocal for women venturing out of house in search of employment and education. If I recall it correctly, Bengal during this period (early 1900s) was more under the influence of Netaji. He was more popular.

You have rightly put it. Raja Ram Mohan Roy, the Father of Renaissance would have been a more apt role model for Aniruddh to inspire Bondita.

As for cultural aspect, well, South India is STEREOTYPED. It is shameful and even upsetting how the slang, dialect, wardrobe, and even lifestyle of South Indians, especially Tamilians, is made fun of in ITV. Especially when some of the most eminent people in modern history come from this region and those people did not go about with such wardrobes.

So leave culture, at least when making a show on women empowerment, CVs should do some homework on the historical figures and their ideologies.

But then again I wonder is the outrage worth the effort. It clearly is a work of fiction. They have messed up with timeline real bad but the story, even if it is a period drama, is not about the freedom struggle. They are swinging it as they are proceeding. They are freestyling with the history to mould it to their characters' needs. I think I can forgive them a bit.

Originally posted by: Aelin

The makers could have refrained from overindulging in their reverence to Gandhi. Yes. It is not just about being over the too but about being historically inaccurate. But was it unexpected? Did we get hit by a metaphorical bus today? I would say no. We all knew it was coming. He looks older than he should be, well known than he actually was and wiser than he ought to be given credit for as he was at that time. True. Using Raja Ram Mohun Roy or Ishwar Chandra Vidyasagar as icons would have been more accurate and to the point. But honestly how many daily soap viewers know fully about them? How many would be sitting in front of their TV and go like ," yes, this is so impactful". Not many right? Gandhi on the other hand is a name we know since our memory started developing. His ideals and the idea of him as an icon is more appealing and understandable to the common mass that sits glued to their screens. Educated and well read people know him and his life and find time to outrage at this depiction of a part of our history. Good. As one should. But I think it would be a better thing to let the makers know what they are doing wrong.

If I may ask. Apart from the newspaper clippings in the show do.we know when actually the show is set at. Is it really 1918/19? If it's a bit later then maybe they still can warrant benefit of doubt and slap on their hand for this mistake.

I totally agree with sujz about the south Indian thing. You wanna do a south Indian bit atleast hire a south Indian kid who knows his stuff (taàmil? Really?! ). This was lame and truly enhancing the stereo type. I am a true malayalee who has lived in Arunachal, Jaipur and Delhi throughout my life and I can tell ya I don't just utter 'ille". What's even?! And I can speak hindi better than the north Indian gents and ladies and speak farratedar malayalam as well. What's with the stereotyping. Not forgiving BB for that.

About the first para, its not really about what audience know or what they don't. Even if they are unaware makers shouldn't be feeding them wrong factual information when they promote the show heavily on the basis that they portray the truth of that ERA. Its the history of a nation and they should keep it as accurate as possible no matter what.

They showed it multiple times in newspaper that it is 1918. The newspaper is probably printed just for the show's purpose so they obviously knowingly gave the date as 1918 and people cannot say they haven't given a timeline. And if they just flips the time to 1921 or beyond right now, its a bigger blooper considering they just skips years like that.

Despite all that, the makers do.need to understand not to mess up history that is clearly documented for all to see. A little precaution on their part along with some research could actually save them a fall from grace. This is one of the better shows I have seen. I have not watched ITV in last 15 years and I am 26. This show has the potential to be different. Let's hope tahy it doesn't get ruined because of Gandhi-bhakti, atmanirbharta jaap and any other forms of bhakti.

Originally posted by: Sujz

About the first para, its not really about what audience know or what they don't. Even if they are unaware makers shouldn't be feeding them wrong factual information when they promote the show heavily on the basis that they portray the truth of that ERA. Its the history of a nation and they should keep it as accurate as possible no matter what.

They showed it multiple times in newspaper that it is 1918. The newspaper is probably printed just for the show's purpose so they obviously knowingly gave the date as 1918 and people cannot say they haven't given a timeline. And if they just flips the time to 1921 or beyond right now, its a bigger blooper considering they just skips years like that.

Sujz I agree with all that. What I tried to say was how utterly not unexpected this whole fiasco is. And how the makers might have come up with this. Trust me I would trade this Gandhi track with a netaji track in half a heartbeat. Feeding misinformation about the history of Indian independence struggle is sacrilegious, true. But do I need to expend my energy outraging about it, no. A more constructive approach is suitable. There are people in the forum who might know people from the production team. Let the discontent amongst viewers be relayed to them. Have them know how are they butchering history for.trp. and that educated class watch the show and are unhappy with it.

So 1918 it is. Cool. As I said it's just the newspapers that showed the date. Nowhere do.they mention it. So maybe the director thought we magically forgot this teensy fact and the whole of Indian history.

Chill down, kid. Pump the outrage brakes. You have not seen the worst of it. I have seen shows end on such disappointing notes that I actually shed tears. Here's to hoping BB will stop effing around

Originally posted by: Aelin

Sujz I agree with all that. What I tried to say was how utterly not unexpected this whole fiasco is. And how the makers might have come up with this. Trust me I would trade this Gandhi track with a netaji track in half a heartbeat. Feeding misinformation about the history of Indian independence struggle is sacrilegious, true. But do I need to expend my energy outraging about it, no. A more constructive approach is suitable. There are people in the forum who might know people from the production team. Let the discontent amongst viewers be relayed to them. Have them know how are they butchering history for.trp. and that educated class watch the show and are unhappy with it.

So 1918 it is. Cool. As I said it's just the newspapers that showed the date. Nowhere do.they mention it. So maybe the director thought we magically forgot this teensy fact and the whole of Indian history.

Chill down, kid. Pump the outrage brakes. You have not seen the worst of it. I have seen shows end on such disappointing notes that I actually shed tears. Here's to hoping BB will stop effing around

@bold that's again a bigger blunder.

Its not about chilling or not. Just because other shows aren't doing it well doesn't mean BB gets a benefit. They are butchering Indian History and they shouldn't do it. And as a viewer its my duty and RIGHT to criticize a show I love when they mess up.

Originally posted by: Aelin

The only reason I am ignorant is because clearly this is a drama show. They want more drama and side by side show some social issue. So I dont care much about what they are actually showing. It does annoy me, no doubt. But, as a viewer of ITV since forever, I have learnt to get over their obsession with 3rd person drama.

@bold that's again a bigger blunder.

Its not about chilling or not. Just because other shows aren't doing it well doesn't mean BB gets a benefit. They are butchering Indian History and they shouldn't do it. And as a viewer its my duty and RIGHT to criticize a show I love when they mess up

You are well within your rights to call out on mess ups they make. My intention was not to shut you up or anything. But being a grown up I know how simply calling out is not the sole solution. I have been told and taught to to play the devil's advocate as well. I would never condone historical blunders and I don't in this case. All I am saying is ITV did not build its reputation or popularity because it was historically accurate but because it put out stuff that caught up to people. You and I can argue and spew arguments that would put our barrister babu and bondita to shame. But that is the extent of it.

You, child, are free to say what you like in whatever way you like. It's a free world. My apologies if I caused you any sort of agitation or stood in the way of your RIGHTS/DUTIES as a viewer.

Tark se fark padhta hai aur ummeed karti hu ki apke tarko se fark sachh me aa jaye.

The only reason I am ignorant is because clearly this is a drama show. They want more drama and side by side show some social issue. So I dont care much about what they are actually showing. It does annoy me, no doubt. But, as a viewer of ITV since forever, I have learnt to get over their obsession with 3rd person drama.

Exactly. It kills me to see all this but then again it is an ITV drama. it could be worse. I chose apathy and ignorance for 25-30 minutes and focus on the lead characters and their antics.