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Posted: 15 years ago
#71

Originally posted by: cuterosy



When Maulik was bailed out I am sure entire m-clan knew about it as Baa was aware of it that Santu always sends sweets for Maulik whenever there is family function. Santu bailed Maulik so that he could redeem himself (yes know that crime was heinous and he should have been left in jail to rot but then if Sandeep was bailed out then Maulik was bailed out by default). So it is not Santu's fault at all. Yes at times it seems Santu does not give a hoot cos usually we find Santu solving all the troubles of m-clan herself.

I really do not like Moti saying those mean things to Santu ..wishing that Santu too kills her son one fine day and so on. We all know that Rasikaji's character will probably end because of health issues but please don't destroy her character by giving her such dialogues. Moti too has a soft side as evidenced by her consoling Moongi and accepting Champakali's offer for help. She is a brilliant actress and her character has many shades but it would have been great if she had been shown reconciling and accepting santu than cursing her in crude ways.


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Posted: 15 years ago
#72
Motiben is stooping really low by saying all the things abt sanraj unborn baby. it is sickening to say the least. in a way she is actually like maulik. stubborn. maulik was two faced but Moti is hatred to santu always.

It is sad to see that the story is going to all and sundry things. it was such a good theme. but then Ekta as always has to make a hash of all the good themes even pavithra rishta is going to dogs.

What do the creatives, channel heads see in these???????? Jyoti is going onnn n onnnnnnnnn, devi???? kashi????? what is this ??????

All started with such good plots but lost their way in trying to drag the serial when it got TRP's.

I really feel "WHEN WILL ALL THIS END"???????????????

P.S. sorry for mentioning other serials names.
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Posted: 15 years ago
#73
even at a time like this moti can think of saying such horrble things to santu....crazy lady...
on an unrelated note,the entire episode was tulsi virani revisited..they even played the KSBKBT title track during the funeral..lol..ekta's tribute to the soap of the century..
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Posted: 15 years ago
#74

Originally posted by: Shahara3

@ Sam and Rosy I agree, Moti is the only person who is responsible for the type of man Moulik was up until his death. Santu has never given him any wrong advice or told him to do anything that will hurt or shame the family, she has always been positive and given him sound advice to become a good person and I honestly believe Moulik would have accepted Santu had Moti not been around but she was instigating war between all members of the family against Santu, its her disgusting insecurities, jealousy of Santu's relationship with DM and the family, how much DM loves her, power of their love, took and appreciated Santu's feelings and suggestions than hers. Moti was feeding crap to Moulik over the years, pampering him like Sam said, feeding his obsessions. Santu balied him out thinking he deserves a second chance and wants to reform and come back to the family which was a mistake but Moulik was Moti's son, just like Moti, Moulik will follow her footsteps, do anything for power, position but being let out is not the reason why he is dead, he seemed out of him and Sandy to repent the most, asked for forgiveness and saved Santu from being killed and Khaddu from being slapped and blamed. As Rosy said the above Moti's teachings and upbringing are to blame. Moti took the gun, pointed it at him, shot him to kill him, she could have wounded him but no, she chose to end his life for good.


Shahara actually Moti is not the only person who is responsible the way Maulik turned out to be. Everyone in the family is to be blamed, for not noticing change in his attitude, his actions identifying with him at some level. No doubt for almost 8-10 years after passing away of Subhadra Moti Ben spoilt Maulik.

But he was protected after making mistakes by others as well... Hiten at the time of killing of Mowri (Cow) and even our good old Santu, though she was very generous in doling out words of advice she protected two of his biggest mistakes and also the one and only one time that Maulik gathered courage to be able to stand up to the expectations of DM by sharing the truth it is Santu who prevented him.

Maulik had wanted to go upto DM and tell him the truth about Kanji and Motiben, but Santu prevented him from doing so. I feel this was a major faux pas, because had Maulik been able to say the same to DM not only would DM have had more respect for him, it was an ideal start for him on the path of righteousness by having made a new beginning after his deaddiction. But Santu preventing him from doing so, he could not share his feelings and emotions with anyone and not even able to openly meet his birth father. He was confused about wanting to have a part of the property, but living in fear of losing it and his name continued to suffer internally and feeling more and more alienated from the family he had grown up with and trying to think of ways to ensure he got a part in the property.

Mistakes that she protected... Maulik having dropped Mongi in the well even if accidentally, by hiding the fact immediately after the incident from DM hence also at that time withholding information about his drinking habit, allowing it go from bad to worse.

Prior to and at the time of killing of Arjan, she was very much aware that Maulik was instigating Arjan against Khemi and Hiten, she never told DM before the murder and even after murder in a so called attempt to protect Birwa who had only acted in panic and in defense of her father, she did not drop even the slightest hint to family members and / or DM that Maulik was the person who was responsible for Arjans actions. Even after being released from jail, she taunted DM if he had ever thought why Arjan did what he did, but still did not give him a clue regarding the same.

The covering up of such evil actions and thoughts which were directed at and intended to have one family member killing another only for the sake of money is by far worse than protecting lying for small sums of money. By knowing what he did and making his words her own to take the blame for murder she hid and protected his evil side (from which everyone else was oblivious) and did not give Maulik any reason for him to reform his ways or thoughts and the path downhill started. So yes Santu is also responsible for the path Maulik travelled on with Sandeep and subsequently. Though it still does not fully justify Moti using the kind of harsh words she did with Santu, but if the relativity is compared to the kind of harsh words she used when she was just simply annoyed by her being around in the house.... to the killing of her son ... the harshness and bitterness is in line with the kind of character portrayed for Moti Ben.


Edited by vandygr8 - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago
#75

Originally posted by: anitarani

@sanrajfan1
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DM could very well be in shock on hearing it..and have gone into the thinking mode as to why and how someone would say so!!!
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Of course he is in a state of shock.......even Ana's time they
showed that with Anamika giving all proof that she was Subhi
and whole family accepting her, DM was all smiles accepting
her, taking he to their room, etc.........later we knew that he
apparently went along only to find out the real truth, which he
exposed Anamika..............Here too, definitely he would have
gone into thinking mode and probably how best to get the
truth out, also meantime hoping Santu with child is not
hurt..........After dr. m telling DM that Vishal was their child,
he went to Santu, and no matter that Santu was in anguish
about Moti and Maulik, he was just concerned abt her and
"their" child.............


Yes it is possible that DM has either been shocked or gone silent to try and reach to the bottom of the truth. His going to Santu actually has nothing to do what Dr. M said or not, he has to go to Santu because he no doubt is aware that given the delicate situation she needs to take care of her health and baby. He also saw the tirade of Moti Ben on Santu.

Now for the next 13 days, they cannot go anywhere... but post that DM has to go to Mumbai with Santu for further tests and investigations. So unless he can get to the bottom of the thing within 13 days, he wud not be able to investigate in the days after that, unless of course he conveniently forgets that they were to go to mumbai. Usually he requires only a couple of days to actually get to the bottom of something he wants to.. even in case of Anamika he had found out and the viewers were shown the same within a couple of days, this is not going to end so soon i feel.


Edited by vandygr8 - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago
#76
"I really do not like Moti saying those mean things to Santu ..wishing that Santu too kills her son one fine day and so on. We all know that Rasikaji's character will probably end because of health issues but please don't destroy her character by giving her such dialogues. Moti too has a soft side as evidenced by her consoling Moongi and accepting Champakali's offer for help. She is a brilliant actress and her character has many shades but it would have been great if she had been shown reconciling and accepting santu than cursing her in crude ways."

My thoughts exactly. Her first and foremost love is towards DM. She is not that heartless and I hope she is not shown to be so. Please CVs let her exit gracefully.
That said, now about Santu- She knows MB does not like her. So let her be at peace with her feelings. Santu should understand she cannot control others whether emotionally or otherwise. Santu seems to be very desperately wanting everyone around her to pat her and hold her on the pedastal. she needs to give other people some space. Especially at this point of MB's life. As DM said - no mother would be brave enough to do what she did. She has paid for her mistakes big time. So Santu should now atleast backoff from. Let the wounds heal and then she can go and meet MB. If Santu has paid her dues bybeing jail for 10 yrs for her stupid decision, than MB has paid a bigger price for her mistakes ( which to a extent common mistakes made by a mother)
No matter what some people think - Santu has always been impulsive and irresponsible. Just by taking the blame for others does not make her a nice person and absolve her of all the blame.


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Posted: 15 years ago
#77
I think people are starting to forget the facts like the CV 😆
First of santo didn't bail maulik out by choice it was due nandu illness. When sandy told kaddu & santo before he'll help nandu, kaddu has to retract her story of him being in flesh trade. When sandy was release the forum was in a uproar about why sandy was release and not maulik since they committed the crime together. So the cv answered by saying maulik was released as well but chose not to come home cause he wanted stand on his own. I don't know why CV had moti saying she bailed him out when that wasn't the case. The CV just write what they one these days without any consistant facts. Santo weakness is her heart and that's what get's her in trouble most of the time.
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Posted: 15 years ago
#78

Originally posted by: bookworm2

"I really do not like Moti saying those mean things to Santu ..wishing that Santu too kills her son one fine day and so on. We all know that Rasikaji's character will probably end because of health issues but please don't destroy her character by giving her such dialogues. Moti too has a soft side as evidenced by her consoling Moongi and accepting Champakali's offer for help. She is a brilliant actress and her character has many shades but it would have been great if she had been shown reconciling and accepting santu than cursing her in crude ways."

My thoughts exactly. Her first and foremost love is towards DM. She is not that heartless and I hope she is not shown to be so. Please CVs let her exit gracefully.
That said, now about Santu- She knows MB does not like her. So let her be at peace with her feelings. Santu should understand she cannot control others whether emotionally or otherwise. Santu seems to be very desperately wanting everyone around her to pat her and hold her on the pedastal. she needs to give other people some space. Especially at this point of MB's life. As DM said - no mother would be brave enough to do what she did. She has paid for her mistakes big time. So Santu should now atleast backoff from. Let the wounds heal and then she can go and meet MB. If Santu has paid her dues bybeing jail for 10 yrs for her stupid decision, than MB has paid a bigger price for her mistakes ( which to a extent common mistakes made by a mother)
No matter what some people think - Santu has always been impulsive and irresponsible. Just by taking the blame for others does not make her a nice person and absolve her of all the blame.


Hmmm I would not say that Santu has always acted irresponsibly, though yes she has been shown to be very impulsive and the usual Do it all by yourself character. Her pet way of solving problems is to keep it under the bonnet and to herself for as long as possible and in the meanwhile try and find a way to outsmart the opponent.

Santu feels sorry for Birwa after she has learnt the truth of why Birwa got married to Sarang, but even after Birwa tried to run down Sarang and in the process injured DM, Santu was only interested in knowing what Birwa had done, not why she had done it and she did not feel it necessary to tell DM or any of the other family members that Birwa had challenged Santu that come what may Sarang would not get married. Even while she was on Birwa's trail, she did not share with DM any of the facts she learnt.

At almost every stage and step she has been portrayed to be hiding the truth from DM and spending unnecessary extra time and energy in keeping the information hidden and resorting to telling lies perhaps with the pretext of .....i guess what one can only call not wanting DM to overreact /get hurt. However, on the very face of it, it just appears to be a complete lack of trust in DM's ability of problem solving / facing and handling truth etc. Wish some serial could for a change bring a women character, who can be as transparent as the men are shown to be.
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Posted: 15 years ago
#79

Originally posted by: pyar-ishk

I think people are starting to forget the facts like the CV 😆

First of santo didn't bail maulik out by choice it was due nandu illness. When sandy told kaddu & santo before he'll help nandu, kaddu has to retract her story of him being in flesh trade. When sandy was release the forum was in a uproar about why sandy was release and not maulik since they committed the crime together. So the cv answered by saying maulik was released as well but chose not to come home cause he wanted stand on his own. I don't know why CV had moti saying she bailed him out when that wasn't the case. The CV just write what they one these days without any consistant facts. Santo weakness is her heart and that's what get's her in trouble most of the time.


We all of course know that what happens in serials is very far from what happens in reality. In reality Santu wud not have had to negotiate with Sandeep, but someone from within the legal framework wud have negotiated with him and also Sandeep wud have been escorted to the hospital in police custody and not let go with some random relative.

Of course there still was no need to agree to Sandeeps demands in reality. Just like he had agreed to help Nandini the first time... and not kept his word, the same could have been done with Sandeep... and had DM been handling it he may well have resorted to the same trickery rather than getting him freed.

Now after Mauliks release from jail, the only person from the Mahiyavanshi family who kept in touch with Maulik was Santu and she was completely blinded by his false act.... was even convinced that he stayed with the labourers which was also incorrect and she just trusted him based on some tears he shed while he was in jail..... not very smart is all I would say. If she really did care for him, she should have been a little more cautious.

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