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jdfan

@jdfan

Dazzler

Posted: 10 years ago

#61

Hatred for some characters is so much that people write what kind of comments i am truly amazed

People are finding Mannu's behavior today very right Mannu is approx 16 years old not too small he is mature enough to see right and wrong but this boy today rejected his mother Made her motherhood her sin Jagya loved him so much Did so much for him Dadisaa did so much for him but he rejected all of them He can see Ratan's few seconds of love but abused Jagya Ganga and Dadisaa's years of love Shunned all of them away and people are enjoying that saying Mannu is complete right They deserved that

Yes Ganga deserved that for all struggles for this boy Mannu was her reason to live When she was lonely he was all her family He was not her only son but her friend too Her companion in her lonliness She did so much for him The great Ratan Singh beaten her to death She could not walk because of her wounds she was crawling and going to her Mannu My Mannu would be hungry My Mannu would be crying and Jagya had to stop her with great difficulty Dont go there Ratan will kill you then what will happen of your Mannu if you died but today that boy abused his mother Doubting her she is even his real mother Mannu does not know all truth but at least he knows his mother always loved him Gave him every thing but he abused her and people are saying yes Ganga deserved that

Jagya how much he has done for this boy How much love he has given to him today this boy rejected him as his father and people are saying yes very right a father is a father a step father no matter do what can never be a father wow

Dadisaa she fought with devi maa for this boy's life She prayed non stop Today this boy rejected her this Dadisaa

For all that Ganga Jagya Dadisaa done for this boy Mannu and today he is abusing them insulting them rejecting them and there is no slight sadness in people but they are saying they actually deserved that wow

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jdfan

@jdfan

Dazzler

Posted: 10 years ago

#62

Yes Jagya Ganga Dadisaa told Mannu half truth not complete

Jagya told him Ratan treated your mom very badly but how Ratan treated Ganga Jagya did not tell

Jagya told Ratan tried to kill your mother but did not tell how and how many times

They did not tell Ratan kept Mannu away from his mother

Jagya Ganga did not tell mannu is product of martial rape not his sweet father Ratan Singh's sweet love for his mother

Jagya did not tell Ratan tried to kill him

Jagya only told Ratan tried to kill his whole family not how? I mean he should have explained whole scene

Jagya Ganga did not tell Ratan was more interested in his revenge than his son Mannu's life For him Mannu could die he does not care but his revenge was more important for him and he only gave his bone marrow to Mannu after making a deal with JaGan they will give Mannu to him and never look at him ever only then he will give his bone marrow to Mannu

Jagya Ganga did not tell Ratan later cancelled the deal because he was scared he will have fate lke Gunjan

Jagya and Ganga did not tell Ratan gave Mannu to Jagya telling him make a good human like you Mannu will never become a good human being under my shadow but yes you can make him

Ganga did not tell what were Ratan's last words to Ganga You and your dr sahab both are great noble people who are so kind to even a sinner like me He told Ganga you are a devi You are being so kind to a monster like me who treated you so badly i never deserved you because i never valued the precious gem like you You are blessed to have your dr sahab in your life You only deserve a man like your dr sahab who truly valued you and he did so much for you

Ganga did not tell Ratan Singhs more crimes like killing his first wife , his all other crimes He was hard core criminal

Ganga did not tell Mannu he has half sister too Padma's daughter who was a cursed soul for your sweet father Ratan and remained a cursed soul till his last breath He did not remember her

Mannu should know all Jagya Ganga indeed did not tell all truth to him

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Stephi

@Stephi

Rocker

Posted: 10 years ago

#63

Originally posted by: jdfan
Yes Jagya Ganga Dadisaa told Mannu half truth not complete
Jagya told him Ratan treated your mom very badly but how Ratan treated Ganga Jagya did not tell

Jagya told Ratan tried to kill your mother but did not tell how and how many times

They did not tell Ratan kept Mannu away from his mother

Jagya Ganga did not tell mannu is product of martial rape not his sweet father Ratan Singh's sweet love for his mother

Jagya did not tell Ratan tried to kill him

Jagya only told Ratan tried to kill his whole family not how? I mean he should have explained whole scene

Jagya Ganga did not tell Ratan was more interested in his revenge than his son Mannu's life For him Mannu could die he does not care but his revenge was more important for him and he only gave his bone marrow to Mannu after making a deal with JaGan they will give Mannu to him and never look at him ever only then he will give his bone marrow to Mannu

Jagya Ganga did not tell Ratan later cancelled the deal because he was scared he will have fate lke Gunjan

Jagya and Ganga did not tell Ratan gave Mannu to Jagya telling him make a good human like you Mannu will never become a good human being under my shadow but yes you can make him

Ganga did not tell what were Ratan's last words to Ganga You and your dr sahab both are great noble people who are so kind to even a sinner like me He told Ganga you are a devi You are being so kind to a monster like me who treated you so badly i never deserved you because i never valued the precious gem like you You are blessed to have your dr sahab in your life You only deserve a man like your dr sahab who truly valued you and he did so much for you

Ganga did not tell Ratan Singhs more crimes like killing his first wife , his all other crimes He was hard core criminal

Ganga did not tell Mannu he has half sister too Padma's daughter who was a cursed soul for your sweet father Ratan and remained a cursed soul till his last breath He did not remember her

Mannu should know all Jagya Ganga indeed did not tell all truth to him

But you see people do not care what all Ratan did , what inhuman he was. People do not want Mannu to know the whole truth on Rattan because these are just Ganga's crap stories. Mannu shouldn't fall on his mother's tears. Ratan is proclaimed as a saint and Ganga's victim. People keep repeating that Ratan saved the life of his son but does not mention how when and under what conditions he accepted to save the life of his own child. What a ''heroic deed'' is done by a parent who gave His bone marrow to save his own child !!! All parents who are willing to give their lives for their children should be ashamed what a heroic deed is done by Ratan Singh! Shiv gave his life to save so many people but it is nothing compared to Ratan's heroic deed. People are not interested to talk about the whole and real truth of Rattan or whether Mannu should know the whole truth about his own father, but they are eager to Mannu to know the whole truth about Jagya's marriage with Anandi . Very interesting and unbiased interpretation of the happenings in this serial. 😉

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SPuja

@SPuja

Rocker

Posted: 10 years ago

#64

Originally posted by: RTee
Today Mannu's reaction was not a surprise at all. It was just a vindication of all that had been predicted in some of my earlier posts. A child's mind is very fragile.

Unlike what Ganga and family told Mannu, he was never in any danger of his life from Ratan. It is another issue as to what he would have become after growing up had he remained with Ratan.

There is no shortage of men like Ratan in our country (both educated and uneducated) who are desperate for a male child for succession. But Ratan did realise the error of his ways.

At 16 Mannu is old enough to know the truth. But he is also at a very impressionable age. He is feeling betrayed, alone and in need of a friend, a confidante.

At this moment if there is one person who can guide him,it is Anandi, much as it may be a disgusting thought.😆 Mannu perceives her to be truthful having told Shivam the truth.

I also think Mannu's life was never in danger with Rat. He would have been loved (and spoiled) if he remained with his paternal family. Anandi should not have kidnapped Mannu. Like Bhairo was totally different from DS, Mannu could also be different from Rat.

And at present it is not Anandi whom Mannu perceives truthful. It is Pooja - she was the only one who told him truth - whatever she knew and as soon as she knew 😆. Now it appears Mannu will go to Pooja and meet Anandi there because Pooja lives in SN. As per spoilers, Bimla gives an envelop to Mannu, perhaps Rat himself had written the truth in that letter and that will convince Mannu - too filmy.

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leavesandwaves

@leavesandwaves

Sparkler

+ 3

Posted: 10 years ago

#65

Originally posted by: SPuja

I also think Mannu's life was never in danger with Rat. He would have been loved (and spoiled) if he remained with his paternal family. Anandi should not have kidnapped Mannu. Like Bhairo was totally different from DS, Mannu could also be different from Rat.

And at present it is not Anandi whom Mannu perceives truthful. It is Pooja - she was the only one who told him truth - whatever she knew and as soon as she knew 😆. Now it appears Mannu will go to Pooja and meet Anandi there because Pooja lives in SN. As per spoilers, Bimla gives an envelop to Mannu, perhaps Rat himself had written the truth in that letter and that will convince Mannu - too filmy.

This thought crossed me. Just like Kamli who is so different from her parents.

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aparnauma

@GoodDoc_2105

Trailblazer

+ 4

Posted: 10 years ago

#66

Mannu's life was never in danger with his father. But that doesn't mean he can snatch the baby from his mother even the baby happened to be his son.

A child as young as Mannu had been when he was snatched away from his mother - His mother had more rights on him than his father had that time. Even court would have given her the custody irrespective of her economic status and ability to support hersef.

Ratan was in the wrong at that time using all his might against a helpless woman taking her child away from her.He deserved to be taught a lesson had to be paid in the same coin.Besides at that point in time his whole family was absconding and were evading the police and the law.

Anandi snatched Mannu from him and ran but before that she already informed Shiv about finding the baby.

If Anandi sat there waiting for the law to take it's course Ratan would have ran off again.

But that is all in the past

Ganga got her son back for good through legal means got herself freed from him made sure he was punished for all his crimes including kidnapping arson holding BH family for hostage attempted murder and all the crimes.

Yes he would have definitely been a bad influence on Mannu. There is a possibility that Mannu would have turned out to be very much like his father infact he would have been very much like Kundan.

Truth is also that he gave up his claims on his son including wiping out his name as Mannu's father just for better for future of his son. A man who was willing to kill just to show himself as a father of a son did exactly opposite just for the love of his son - He never came back even when he was given visiting rights by his mother. This is a man who came from a society which measured a man's worth by his ability to sire a son.This illiterate man who went against the traditions that his family sociey believed just to give a good life to his son.

He became good father by sacrificing his rights and Ganga did wrong him by denying his request to meet his son.He was not claiming rights but requesting her.

Well Mannu's outburst against Jagya was unreasonable but at this point Mannu is not thinking.

If Mannu believes that he lost his right to know his father and feels that he lost an opportunity he was right in that. He should have been told truth earlier and should have been allowed to make up his mind about the man who had been his father.Ganga denied him that opportunity.His anger against Ganga is justified.

As for Jagya - yes he loved him unconditionally what ever it may be but Mannu couldn't have got a father better than Jagya. This is one relationship which Jagya gave his all.Mannu's love was one and only love that he has earned. Now that love and dedication is being thrown back on his face. It is sad but I guess life pays back.

Mannu Jagya bond is strong - Hope this bond overcomes this turbulent period.

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aparnauma

@GoodDoc_2105

Trailblazer

+ 4

Posted: 10 years ago

#67

Originally posted by: leavesandwaves

This thought crossed me. Just like Kamli who is so different from her parents.

Kamili is not loved and doted on like Kundan is. Kamili is treated like a second class citizen. She paid the price for her parents beliefs - that's the reason why she is different.

Her mother shared her father's beliefs but inspite of that her mother is treated like trash by her father.

She did say that she wanted a man so different from her father so that she can have a life different from that of her mother's.

Besides there is Mangala who is also a victim of all this traditions beliefs and brutish behaviour who moified Kamili's outlook.

Kundan is loved and pampered so he thinks the world of his father and wants to walk in his foot steps.

Mannu also would have been pampered and indulged just like his adoptive father had been.So it is more of a possibility of his ending up like Kundan.

Not genes but the environment shaping him up.

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SPuja

@SPuja

Rocker

Posted: 10 years ago

#68

So, people should take law in their hand if they think that lawful means will result in delay. Only in serials it so happens that the one kidnapping a child is not slapped with kidnapping charges, instead she is praised that she got the child back to his mother. So much preaching by the serial makers and still show so much unlawful means...