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Posted: 12 years ago
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I repeat my stand which I stated in an earlier post.
Sanchi's behaviour and antics do not give Jagat a free license to dishonour his own commitment to the engagement and disappear to Mangalore whenever he sees fit. It's just that simple.
If he had such great commitment to ganga, he should have taken a stand for the commitment even if that meant upsetting sumitra. It's just that simple.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: sectoreight

I have never said that what anandi did was correct either. So there is no bias there.
I have been equally critical of anandi's approach to her marriage with shiv.
That being said, I do not put anandi and jagya in the same category.
anandi was an abused woman who needed time to heal.
jagya was not abused. his choices simply did not work out.
And you and I have different definitions of 'cheating'
I feel that a fact left out by omission is indeed a lie. Knowing very well that saanchi does not like ganga, he is disrespecting saanchi by still keeping a relationship with her.
You feel that only if someone tells an outright untruth, then only that is a lie or cheating.
And you ask has he broken any promise to her?
No. But issues of marriage and engagement do not require explicit contracts or promises.
It is understood and worked into the fabric of the concept of marriage and engagement etc. that these types of relationships are mutually exclusive to two people and does not have any place for a third person.
And Jagya is old enough to know what implicit contracts exist within engagement and marriage...most especially after his soulful introspection with respect to his mess with anandi and gauri.


Sanchi knows what knd of a person jagya is. She very well knows his commitments. She agreed to marry him after knowing his commitments. So, why does she object now ?? How does jagya know that sanchi has a problem with his helping. When she voiced her opinion jagya immediately explained his priorities to her. Sanchi had no problem then , so why problem now ?? If she has a prob
Em now also she can break the engagement it's not that she is married to him ..

There is no need to put the complete blame on jagya for whatever happenned with Anandi or gauri. that's a different discussion...
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Libra123

There is no need to put the complete blame on jagya for whatever happenned with Anandi or gauri. that's a different discussion...

I have never put complete blame on jagya for whatever happened. I agree that part of it was related to circumstances.
however, if I scrutinize jagya's part he did not conduct himself in any stellar fashion either even after desegregating the circumstances from jagya's part.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Then the same applies to Jagya. His past cannot held against him. It does not give others a free license to dishonor his commitment to Helping Ganga.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Libra123


Sanchi knows what knd of a person jagya is. She very well knows his commitments. She agreed to marry him after knowing his commitments. So, why does she object now ?? How does jagya know that sanchi has a problem with his helping. When she voiced her opinion jagya immediately explained his priorities to her. Sanchi had no problem then , so why problem now ?? If she has a prob
Em now also she can break the engagement it's not that she is married to him ..

I am going to quote SPUja's words again In blue because I feel they convey my views exactly.
"Don't know about others, but for me it is not about any sympathy towards Sanchi. It is resentment towards a supposedly 'redeemed' person insulting the institution of marriage again (he insulted his rishta with Anandi, and doing the same thing with Sanchi). Had he rejected this alliance with Sanchi, then I would have been happy, but accepting it for the sake of family and then becoming totally indifferent towards the rishta is not the sign of a good person. "
And now back to my own views ... sure saanchi can break the engagement. And she should, because there is another blaring issue for saanchi which is "why would you choose to stay with a man who disrespects you"
But that is not the question I am focusing on. The question is why he got engaged in the first place when he was not interested. Therein lies the flaw in Jagat's so called "redemption"
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Picasso9

Then the same applies to Jagya. His past cannot held against him. It does not give others a free license to dishonor his commitment to Helping Ganga.

But his commitment to helping ganga is not in the past. It is very much alive and in the present.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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But the main point is that Saanchi already knows how committed Jagya is for helping Ganga. She already knows through her private convos with Sumi and also when Jagya tried to tell her. If she didn't already know then why would she manipulate him so much. If she didn't already know then why she avoids discussion about it with Jagya. So how Jagya is hiding or omitting stuff from her, I fail to see. So what if he went to Mangalore without telling her. As far as he is concerned, he thinks she is fine with him helping Ganga and if he went without telling her, what's the big deal. Does he have to report his every move. People are forgetting that Jagya is NOT aware of Saanchi's insecurities.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: sectoreight


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But his commitment to helping ganga is not in the past. It is very much alive and in the present.



his past regarding Gauri/Anandi should not be held against him. he has been consistently above board about his commitment to help Ganga from the beginning. Everyone, including Shekhars are aware of it. If Shekhars have reservations, they need to come forward. They cannot accuse based on the past, and so far they have just shown pleasure at everything. The only person who has a problem with his commitment is Sumitra and Jagya now knows about this. So how is he supposed to know that he needs to explain himself to all and sundry.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Picasso9

So how Jagya is hiding or omitting stuff from her, I fail to see. So what if he we t to Mangalore without telling her. As far as he is concerned, he thinks she is fine with him helping Ganga and if he went it hour telling her, what's the big deal. Does he have to report his every move. People are forgetting that Jagya is NOT aware of Saanchi's insecurities.

Yes, he has to report his every move when it is something out of the ordinary. Yes. he does.
And it is not called "reporting" -- it is called communicating with a spouse or significant other.
If saanchi were just shiv's sister, then no, it is none of her business. if saanchi is his fiance then yes, it is her business.
And come on, we all know that he knows that saanchi is NOT fine with his helping ganga. He knows that saanchi has issues with ganga the person.
A decent man would have taken saanchi WITH him to visit ganga.
Only an indecent man will go alone.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Sorry but I don't see it that way. If it was indecent then his elders could have guided him and advised him on the proper etiquette. In fact, his family sent him with their blessings and gifts!!

And yes I believe he does not know Saanchi hates Ganga because after his initial talk with Saanchi when she tried to bad mouth Ganga, he was left with the impression by Saanchi herself that she agreed with his viewpoint. Subsequent to that Saanchi was really nice to Ganga and Mannu in front of Jagya which further led him to believe that she is fine with them. Even after the initial rishta talks she left the elders to go play with Mannu and rub it in Ganga's face that she got her prize. But everyone was left thinking that she is fond of Ganga and Mannu
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