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Posted: 12 years ago
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Anita - For once I did not have problems with the way J behaved.

He was alright with an arranged marriage because both him and the girl will be starting from the scratch and take it from there.

He wanted to refuse for the match for the sake of Sanchi's well being because he felt it would be unfair on his part to marry her knowing that he is not in a position to make her happy.And he also knew that Anandi was not in favour of it but can't voice her opinion and he wanted to refuse.

But in the end they made him chose between Sanchi's happiness and Anandi's happiness.


Here Sumi and DS are acting on pure assumptions.One of my colleagues used to say that assumption is the mother of all screw ups.And this is what is happening here.Both are going to pay price.

I just want this engagement to go through to make them realise how wrong they were.
Even in case of Shekhars it will serve them right.Instead of convincing their daughter how wrong her choice is they were banking on J and Singhs to refuse.It is like thye are brushing their hands off from their responsibility of making their daughter see sense.

This is clear case of elders going wrong and the youngsters being sensible and made to watch the drama helplessly.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Aparna: In this game of belling the cat, its J who will become the ultimate scape goat. I feel really bad for him since at this juncture he doesn't deserve this.

J's acceptance of the alliance will make only one person happy and that is Sachi. The Shekhars are trying to find someone else to do their dirty work for them. Its shameful how they cannot control their own daughter. Like you said the engagement will be an eye opener for the elders sply the Shekhars to take some lessons in disciplining. Unfortunately J will have to bear the worst burn of this situation.

Also how many girls are the Cvs going to link J with. There needs to be an end to this coz its getting more and more distasteful now.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: andv





Coming to J. He clearly spoke his mind with the Singhs. If he could not ask for a private moment he could have got the Singhs to ask A to come upstairs to talk. Or else wait till S comes back and talk to A and S together. There are always ways of doing things diplomatically. If he tried to trick A in asking the question in front of the Shekhars, A's reaction and Daddu's answer were a clear indication that it was all done on Sachi's insistence. There was nothing more than that, he could get out of A in that situation. One cannot expect A to tell J that Sachi is too bratty to be part of this family. What will her standing be with the Shekhars after she says that? After seeing A's reaction, he could have very easily asked for some time to think things over. He need not give any decision right away. That would have passed out a message to the Shekhars too that J was not the one giving Sachi a loose rope but Sachi's love was one sided.


Well Anita Jagaya was in difficult situation Family is warning him not to dare to do anything that causes Anandi 's unhappiness or land her in trouble Anandi is standing with her head bent down and guilty eyes Sanchi is telling him she will die without him do you think he has any option left to say i need time to think over it ? Time to think over doesn't mean this all will change because basically the thing is everyone was saying to him say yes and save our kingdom otherwise our kingdom will be crushed


Dadu and Anandi's reactions told Sanchi's insistence as well as their submission in front of Sanchi's insistence too thats why Jagaya went to question Sanchi and what answer he got from her i love you a lot don't leave me i won't be able to live without you so what he can do now ?

Time to think over it and response No will not change this situation Sanchi 's insistence made Anandi and Shiv both come together with this proposal so talking in private with them will not solve anything as far as any person can think seeing the situation The thing is Sanchi's insistence even made them bent their heads into this otherwise they would never have come up with this so what can a person think in here ?

Anandi for Jagaya and Singhs here has come as Shekhars family's DIL more than their family member if she would have come alone they would definitely have involved her in everything here if here they didn't ask privacy with her or Singhs didn't involve her into this discussion then it makes sense . They don' t want any trouble for her Singhs not calling her for discussion was correct...they coudn't do it in front of her inlaws...and also Jagaya couldnt do it...because if it would have happened and then Jagaya would have refused...the entire Shekhar clan would have assumed that because of Anandi Jagaya said no and then Sanchi would have created a havoc...even Shiv woudnt be of much help here because it would be assumed because of Anandi all this happened and Shiv is just blind for Anandi

Anandi herself should have involved herself into it she should be understanding enough why she is not being asked into it as in front of her in laws Singhs will indeed hesitate to ask her involvement into this so she could excuse herself by saying something to Shekhars , playing some trick and come into DS's room and tell them everything but she didn't even try

Anandi need not to tell anything but at least she should be standing with confidence that would be enough Bent down head bent down guilty eyes portraying herself as extremely bechari into it she is actually telling them save my about to be crushed life

She didn't need to tell Jagaya what a brat Sanchi is and not suitable for him but she only had to give him this indication I won't be in trouble if your answer is No. Actually this he wanted to know from her and this she should be telling to him and For this her words were not needed her expression would be enough but here she failed as soon as Jagaya asked this question she bent down her head and eyes Why she did that ? i don't understand The question was quite easy for her to understand what he want to know from her but her reaction was completely wrong to it




The best and only alternative to solving this miscommunication and mess, is for J to ask for time to think it over. The decision is on him and there is no harm in asking for more time. All matters can be sorted with proper communication rather than assumptions.

Miscommunication was there but miscommunication is fault of the communicators where they presented themselves as such that they don't left any option for Jagaya . Personally i think this time to think over should have been asked by Singhs from Shekhars without even asking Jagaya about it but they didn't bother to even think on this Jagaya is not ready for marriage but they went on to force Jagaya even Bhairo couldn't think about it ?which is very disappointing from him DS who with her matured eyes could analyze a person what of kind of person he is has failed to analyze Sanchi and is calling her she is a good girl 😕

Jagaya is forced from all sides Family has warned him scratching his guilt don't dare to do anything that causes Anandi's unhappiness Shekhars are her in laws Anandi is standing in extremely bechari mode Sanchi is telling him i love you don't leave me i won't be able to live without you so he don't have any option left to ask for anything to think over it as all is presented to him like this his no will only create complications not solve it because with time to think over it his real answer will never change which is NO


. Basically in order to create this silly drama, the CVs have taken a very easy alternative, ie to not use logic and think that the viewers are fools to get easily swayed by them.

in my view apart from Jagaya To very much extent his actions were understandable according what has been presented in front of him rest Shekhars , Singhs and Anandi 's actions were completely unexpected and logic was not there much neither sensible Cvs didn't think much sensibly about their actions most probably to force this drama They could have done in a better way too Personally i don' t understand what is the purpose of this forced alliance on Jagaya ?The track would have been fine till Sanchi is in love with him and he treats her head and she learns her lesson and moves on but why this forced marriage on Jagaya? We know its gonna break are cvs planning to break him down more ?it will become too much difficult for him then to accept even Ganga's love Don't know what cvs are cooking 😳Two failed marriages one failed alliance Jagaya will get a nervous breakdown going by this 😳


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Posted: 12 years ago
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I am glad that Anandi stayed quiet in this whole scenario. It's like she will be damned if she spoke and damned if she didn't.


Btw it really looked weird to me that the Singh's left all the shekars in one room and went to decide among themselves about this proposal! From my experience so far, i think when we get such proposal we tell them kindly that we'll soon let them know about this and after sending the guests away we decide. What's the hurry to decided at the spur of the moment. We are not supposed to take hasty decisions when the marriage is happening for the first time while the Singh's are being hasty for their son's third marriage🤡.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Haven't seen the epi but felt highly disappointed after reading the WU.

So it's J's life but he doesn't have any say in it. In which world do marriages get fixed like this, where no thought is give to past failures. No time is taken to think through what will be the repurcussions of the relationship they are going to accept. No thought is given to what the guy involved really wants.
When Shiv was marrying Anandi, Meenu was not convinced and hence she crossed-checked Anandi on several points / occassions, just to ensure that Shiv will be happy with her. So is no one at Shekhars thinking that whether their daughter will remain happy or not after marrying Jagya?
So many parents give freedom to their children to see them happy, but isn't it the same set of parents who need to put their foot down to stop their child, if they see that the child's action is only going to bring disappointments & failure in future?
What a khichdi of relationships & sanity
Is this the same show we once called inspirational?
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: aparnauma

He was alright with an arranged marriage because both him and the girl will be starting from the scratch and take it from there.

He wanted to refuse for the match for the sake of Sanchi's well being because he felt it would be unfair on his part to marry her knowing that he is not in a position to make her happy.And he also knew that Anandi was not in favour of it but can't voice her opinion and he wanted to refuse.



Aparna, of the two reasons u gave for J to refuse the proposal, i think the latter point is valid. The first one(in bold) can't be valid because if that is the reason J would be doing injustice to any girl he marries because of his present state of mind. It's not just about sanchi, it would be unfair for him to marry any woman who loves or wants to marry him.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Thanks for update Khusi


Shashank was awesome in the episode What a performance 👏

I knew it Rat will escape This drama was only done to remove Shiv out of the scene of Shekhars presenting Sanchi's proposal to Singhs

Shekhars are 👎🏼 family They are too blind and submissive to their brat They cannot control her and are up to give her everything whatever she wants no matter it is going to become trouble for so many but it doesn't matter to Shekhars 👎🏼 No doubt their these kind of acts made Sanchi what she is 🤢 Alok tried to talk sense but Dadu made him quiet 🤢Why Dadu wanted to know about Jagaya's answer ?Jagaya has given them enough hints clear hints he is not interested in Sanchi still Dadu was only banking on Jagaya and that too after pressuring Singhs so much ? What happened to Dadu's years of experience maturity and sense ?😳

Singhs i don't understand why in the world they were discussing so much They know about Jagaya's emotional state so well and also know he has recently recovered from a head injury Stress won't be good for him so straight away tell Shekhars we know what our son's answer will be he is not ready for marriage previously we were pressuring him for marriage for now we can't we need some time for this . Shekhars would not have thrown Anandi out of house if Singhs would have said this to them but the day Singhs will become sensitive and understanding to their children that day the poor children 's sufferings will end therefore they are insane as usual😡

I won't give any point to Singhs for discussing how awkward relationship is going to be formed between Jagaya and Anandi if they said yes to this proposal because whats the point of only saying when they are giving into it ?They should be finding ways to get out of it

Bhairo i have become hopeless from this character Just wish cvs make my hopes alive again Its not like the character is not sane but for how long he will only be giving lectures of right and wrong but won't do anything In front of his eyes his son's life is about to be ruined again and he knows it but he can't do anything

Dadisaa and Sumitra both👎🏼They both have quite easily forgot about Sanchi's acts and how much insults she has thrown on them she is very good girl to them 🤢They both will pay for this very badly and they didn't even consider it important to talk to Anandi just assumed she is fine with it and Sumitra was irritated even with the idea to talk to Jagaya when Bhairo said it she was like what is need of it 👎🏼

Poor Jagaya i really sympathize with him His own family is so insensitive to him Poor guy he was shocked , frustrated , angry , hurt how can they think about his and Sanchi's marriage He has never seen Sanchi with these eyes and Sumitra and Dadisaa were forcing him by playing Anandi's card 👎🏼giving him warnings👎🏼What about his happiness , his life it doesn't matter to you at all😲 DS almost threatened Jagaya not to do anything that ruins Anandi's happiness 👎🏼what the hell ?'When he refused and is not ready to accept it you should be thinking of ways to finish this proposal but these both were emotionally blackmailing forcing Jagaya to agree for it 👎🏼His life is already in ruins he is slowly standing up to rebuild it Singhs are up to destroy his life again by forcing him to accept a proposal which he is not ready to accept and this all will be so awkward and painful to him but this is not single matter of concern for Dadisaa and Sumitra 👎🏼shame on both 👎🏼

I do blame Singhs no matter they think Anandi is their daughter but Jagaya is their son Both are equal for them Singhs cannot make Jagaya a sacrifice goat for Anandi and destroy his life permanently by forcing him to accept a relation playing Anandi's card 👎🏼Keeping in view of happiness of both of them they should be taking any decision and Dadisaa and Sumi are thinking about none here Where Dadisaa and Sumitra are thinking about Anandi too they are only thinking about Anandi's in laws otherwise how they even thought Anandi can be happy in this 😳She can never be happy in this

Anandi was disappointing as well Jagaya when came down he had many questions in his eyes from her She need not to say anything but give him a hint only He looked at Anandi many times and Anandi understood but still she didn't give him even one hint His no will not be trouble for her i am disappointed with her she didn't even make any eye contact with him she immediately bent her head and eyes down as soon as Jagaya asked question from Shekhars She was moving her eyes like that she is extremely forced and guilty and she has no way out She has compromised with the situation i didn't expect this from AnandiSeeing her for so long this is unexpected behavior A character who never bent down her head and eyes in front of something she is not in support of , she use to say a lot with her eyes only Here she was very big disappointment


Dadu's lecture to Jagaya about adults submission infront of children's happiness was irritating 😵He was actually emotionally blackmailing Jagaya there Why he was asking from Jagaya his answer so much ? Could n't he see Jagaya's expressions , his body language and his question to them spoke volumes about his answer so what answer he wanted more

Sanchi finally confessed her love to Jagaya leaving poor Jagaya shocked

Precap Sanchi is telling Jagaya emotionally she cannot live without him don't leave her Poor Jagaya i feel really bad for him He is forced from all sides so much He has to say yes to this proposal The part in the precap is so emotional where Ganga holding Mannu is emotionally watching her doctor saa going away from her 😭Mannu is so sad 😭please Mannu our cupid don't lose hope 😭

i really feel sorry for Jagaya 😭Such an important decision of his life and leave others even not his own family is not even little bit sensitive to him what he wants and they emotionally blackmailed him by playing Anandi's card and forced him to accept this proposal for Anandi's sake They didn't even bother to cross check Sanchi properly They are so much blinded in few days of Sanchi's drama even with their experienced eyes they can't see that she won't be right for Jagaya She is such a brat and total opposite to them Are they planning to dance on Sanchi's tunes for life time and will force Jagaya to give himself to Sanchi by telling him if you didn't so Anandi it will be for trouble ?Singhs are throwing their son in a dungeon for life and they don't care about it as none them could even think about it not even Bhairo

Singhs will definitely regret on this one day and poor Jagaya he will bear the worst burn of this situation.with no fault of him This is so wrong to him




Edited by saba113 - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: dixie123

Thanks Khusi for the update.

The Singhs are so right. Why can't the Shekhars show some slight disappointment in Sanchi's decision to marry Jagya. It is going to be a matter of miscommunication where nobody except Sanchi wants the ristha but everybody will say yes thinking the other party is ok with this.


its such a foolishness..nobody said anything to her..its like she is the master of kb..😡

tfs..kushi😊

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Posted: 12 years ago
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I think I understand why this stupidity is being promoted.

The CV's made sure they push us towards wanting Ganga Jagya as a pair. Now that we know that and life wud be picture perfect if the Singhs were to implement her divorce and prompt marrriage with Jagya and custody rights of Mannu - the serial wud have nothing to show except Rats planning some vague evil scheme to ruin their happiness.

BUT - Its been almost a year since they proposed Shiv Anandi ki shaadi. And now they need another occassion to plan dressup and shop and wear even more jewellery if possible and SO - they create a wedding ! Simple -

Now if Singhs ask for time and/or Jagya says - Shiv's sister is like his own sister - then - at max we can have some slashed wrist drama with Saanchi.

But here - if Saanchi marries and comes here - she can do Taandav and create serious drama. Maybe even more than Gauri created coz at heart Gauri had genuinely wanted to be accepted as a bahu.

Saanchi is coming here coz Jagya is sooo TALL and sooo HANDSOME and such a HERO. And plus she wants to be the first in her silly affected girls group and flaunt Jagya as a trophy catch.

Also - Saanchi has been very very upset with that Ganwar Ganga and her horrible brat Mannu and their proximity to Jagya. And this will give her the perfect means to put them down even day and every minute and eventually push them out too.

And ofcourse - the CV's know that what works for all other saas bahu shows - is torture. verbal taunts, put downs, mental games, planning and plotting and so introducing Saanchi here will give them a super successful formula and they shan't have to tax their brains for a long long time to think of another track.


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Posted: 12 years ago
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Thanks for the update.

Shashank was terrific in the episode 👏

Shekhars are one loser family👎🏼 No doubt Sanchi is their classy master piece of work i don't blame her for what she is its all because of this family 👎🏼 What's wrong with them ? Why they cannot control their brat ?Why they are getting everyone in trouble to fulfill her unjustified demand? They know its only their daughter's infatuation Jagaya is not interested in her so they should be thinking of finding ways to control her themselves instead of trying to find ways to hide behind Jagaya and Singhs to control their brat 🤢Really what kind of family is this 👎🏼 They cannot even for once think about Jagaya and Anandi in what awkward relationship for life they will both land into if this Jagaya Sanchi's married happened 👎🏼Alok tried to talk sense but Dadu with his blah blah made him quiet . 😵

Shekhars are such a loser family i am sure if Jagaya would have said no and Sanchi would have threatened them she will commit suicide they would be sitting with bheek ka katora in front of Jagaya marry our daughter we beg you 🤢They really don't have guts to control their brat They only have guts to fulfill her demands whether unjustified they don't care👎🏼 Shame on Shekhars 👎🏼

Singhs i don't understand Why they did not ask for some more time from Shekhars ? 😲Don't they know about Jagaya's emotional state They could tell Shekhars we know what Jagaya's answer will be he is not ready for marriage now They were pressuring him for marriage before but just recently he has recovered from a severe head injury we don't want to give him any such stress now Can't they be even this much sensitive to Jagaya😡


Whats the point of discussing how awkward relationship is going to be formed between Jagaya and Anandi if they said yes to this proposal because whats the point of only saying when they are giving into it ?They should be finding ways to get out of it but both DS and Sumitra were finding ways how this relationship is going to be right😡👎🏼


Bhairo he won't do anything ever. Once again his son 's life is about be ruined and he is a spectator only😵

Dadisaa and Sumitra both👎🏼its pretty strange how their experienced eyes cannot see Sanchi is no match for Jagaya They know very well Jagaya is marrying only for his family's sake but it doesn't mean you get him marry to whoever Its sad how they just turn a blind eye to what Sanchi really is. Her upbringing, thinking, lifestyle, is so different. She is so outspoken and brash they know very well Singhs want to keep Anandi's well being in mind but tying Jagaya for life with some one so opposite them is just like inviting more sorrow for him and them in the long run , destroying his life permanently but they just don't have any brain to think about it Sumitra was even irritated with the idea to talk with Jagaya about it she was like what is the need of it ? 😡Hadh ho gaye😡 Sanchi is good a girl thats you should not be thinking here you should be thinking whether she will be good for my son You like her or not doesn't matter what matters here whether your son will be happy with her but Sumitra doesn't care for anything 😡

Poor Jagaya i really feel sorry for him His own family is so insensitive to him Poor guy he was shocked , frustrated , angry , hurt how can they think about his and Sanchi's marriage He has never seen Sanchi with these eyes and Sumitra and Dadisaa were forcing him by playing Anandi's card 👎🏼giving him warnings👎🏼What about his happiness , his life That doesn't matter to you at all👎🏼 DS almost threatened Jagaya not to do anything that ruins Anandi's happiness 👎🏼what the hell ?'When he refused and is not ready to accept it you should be thinking of ways to finish this proposal but these both were emotionally blackmailing forcing Jagaya to agree for it 👎🏼His life is already in ruins he is slowly standing up to rebuild it Singhs are up to destroy his life again by forcing him to accept a proposal which he is not ready to accept and this all will be so awkward and painful to him but this is not single matter of concern for Dadisaa and Sumitra 👎🏼shame on both 👎🏼


Anandi was disappointing as well Jagaya when came down he had many questions in his eyes from her She need not to say anything but give him a hint only He looked at Anandi many times and Anandi understood but still she didn't give him even one hint His no will not be trouble for her i am disappointed with her she didn't even make any eye contact with him she immediately bent her head and eyes down as soon Jagaya asked question frm Shekhars She was moving her eyes like that she is extremely forced and guilty and she has no way out She has compromised with the situation😳 She actually proved to Jagaya him saying no will land her in deep trouble At least lady make an eye contact with him so he should know you are not being forced into it Disappointing Anandi


Dadu's lecture to Jagaya about adults submission infront of children's happiness was irritating 😵He was actually emotionally blackmailing Jagaya there Why he was asking from Jagaya his answer so much ? Could n't he see Jagaya's expressions , his body language and his question to them spoke volumes about his answer so what answer he wanted more


Poor Jagaya he is being made a scape goat by both Shekhars and Singhs to satisfy their own selfish purposes No one is little bit sensitive to him


Sanchi finally confessed her love to Jagaya Poor Jagaya shocked

Precap Sanchi is telling Jagaya emotionally she cannot live without him don't leave her Poor Jagaya i feel really bad for him He is forced from all sides so much He has to say yes to this proposal The part in the precap is so emotional where Ganga holding Mannu is emotionally helplessly watching her doctor saa going away from her 😭Mannu is so sad 😭please Mannu cupid don't lose hope 😭

i really feel sorry for Jagaya 😭Such an important decision of his life and leave others even not his own family is not even little bit sensitive to him what he wants and they emotionally blackmailed him by playing Anandi's card and forced him to accept this proposal for Anandi's sake They didn't even bother to check Sanchi properly They are so much blinded in few days of Sanchi's drama even with their experienced eyes they can't see that she won't be right for Jagaya She is such a brat and total opposite to them Are they planning to dance on Sanchi's tunes for life time and will force Jagaya to give himself to Sanchi by telling him if you didn't so Anandi it will be for trouble ?Singhs are throwing their son in a dungeon for life and they don't care about it as none among them could even think about it not even Bhairo

Singhs will definitely regret on this one day and poor Jagaya he will bear the worst burn of this situation.with no fault of him and wonder where this all is leading to ?after this alliance chalo not marriage but at least engagement will happen and then breaking of it will Jagaya will be able to accept any new after that? How he will accept Ganga's proposal then? I hope thats not forcing or emotional torture on him let Ganga win his heart and he should decide he wants to marry her and Singhs better be SHUT UP





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