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aparnauma

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Posted: 12 years ago

#11

Originally posted by: vasiraju

yeah i agree with when it comes to regarding Natures ..But certainly their hidden of way highlighting the City way of living and villagers.

They Made us to see Ganga Making cake for jagdish and saachi getting a cake ..where as in villiage their is no such way of celebrating Birthday with cake yet ..that means showing that even though ganga is villager can make and learn things quickly...tomorrow they will even show that ganga can drive a car with help of jagadish ..can even save a life of the people though she not well trained as nurse yet..

problem is they making Ganga as super women in few days ..where as degrading sacchi as much possible they can..

yes as you said saachi didn't how hard for Anandi and Ganga to see a bad past ..but that does mean that saachi should understand them overnight and start respecting.. them ..

she has good bond with Ashima her friends ..she loves her family its just that she was over protected by the family ...she needs time to get people to understand and develop respect for them ...Cv's trying to show that she isincapable anything where as Ganga is capable of anything ..

i won't agree that Cv's are only concentrating a nature 's people ...they are concentrating how circumstance of city and village are effecting people ..

yes i agree their is good difference between jagdish and sihv raj ...but i don't think they maintaining the same balance in the girls Characters..

they are clearly showing the difference upbringing of girls from cities to village ..which in turn converts in comparison

@bold I agree they made Ganga into superwoman but I think that has got to with character being one of the leads/parallel leads.😆

Sanchi is being shown that she is not capable of making changes more to do with the need to show her bad as per their story requirements - the negative character.

Her parents did highlight the things that are important to her namely the lifestyle she was used to as only one of the reasons for their opposition to her relationship with Jagya. They could have highlighted lot of other things that made this match nonviable.

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Posted: 12 years ago

#12

it is not so , cvs does not want to show any comparison between city girls and village girls .cvs show sanchi behaviour rude even ganga is not in show .it is not that when ganga enter so to show ganga(village girl) good cvs start showing sanchi(city girl) rude .sanchi is always rude .

in teepri case neither teepri is city girl nor sumitra is city girl both women r village women cvs also show difference between two village women teepri and sumitra .they show teepri jealous arrogant at that same time they show sumitra cool caring nature

by showing sanchi girl arrogant that does not mean cvs want to say all city girls r bad

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aparnauma

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Posted: 12 years ago

#13

Originally posted by: Malika
Apy I disagree with some points.I know the difference b/w Ganga and Sanchi is bcoz of their nature and the difference in the environment they have been born and brought up in but still it cant be said that the show isnt elevating village gals over city gals.Coz they never showed a city gal being as strong as an Anandi or a phooli.No of their female lead/parallel lead was a strong character from city. All the strongest female characters in the show were from village.Even city gals face social evils. Even there life can be difficult. I doubt this is co-incidental that all city gals of the show have either been weak or bitchy.Wud have appreciated if they could bring a character whose from city yet as strong as Ganga or Anandi.

I agree they did not bring in girls from the city who are as strong as Ganga or Anandi. They obviously can't bring in a female character like that from city as one of their leads since their show is about Balika Vadhus who are victims of custom that is more prevalent in the villages.

But they could have brought in some strong characters as cameos.Neither Sanchi or Ashima are shining examples of products of urban upbringing despite their contrasting natures.

Probably they wanted people across the rural urban divide to connect with characters like Anandi Ganga and Phooli and did not want to deviate from their theme.

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saba113

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Posted: 12 years ago

#14

Originally posted by: monamie111

i think CVs r trying to show difference between two mentalities only!..

currently CVs r comparing saanchi & ganga and yes sometimes i also feel that it is not good...for example, in yesterday's episode...saanchi gave jaggya a red jacket & jaggya didn't like it much...bcoz he doesn't like bright color!...but the gift ganga has given to him is also red colored...but as the gift is given by ganga here, jaggya is happy with that! 😕...to show jaggya's interest in ganga & not in saanchi CVs will show anything now!! 🥱...

well mona here cvs are not just showing anything they are logical Jagaya has actually never worn the type of jacket Sanchi brought for him He likes simple clothes more The jacket Sanchi brought for him was way too much bright reddish color and also the type Jagaya has never worn so far Jagaya has never worn these type of clothes even while staying in city He doesn't feel himself comfortable in wearing these Though i am not calling Sanchi's choice was bad but it was not matching with Jagaya's choice on contrary When she sent the first blazer to him for social He did like that and was quite comfortable wearing that because it was something ,he could adjust with that it was simple yet graceful with not too bright colors as well The clothes he can comfortably wear

coming to Ganga she only gave him a mobile cover which was not bright red color It was simple and Jagaya only has to put his mobile in it something he can adjust and he was more impressed with it because Ganga herself made it which he really admired her intentions and hard work she put in it while making it on contrary yesterday Jagaya was kind of shocked when Shekhars already has given one gift to him from everyone Sanchi bringing another way too much expensive gift for him He was like what was the need of it? now he doesn't know she has two more a pink cake that he dislikes too and also a mobile that he already has

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642126

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Posted: 12 years ago

#15

I have always had this issue with BV and thank you TM for bringing this up again! 😊

They can show anything but somehow they always end up comparing city girls and village girls and somehow undermining worth of city girls.

I am surprised how Ganga can take care of kid, do housework, study, be at hospital to train as nurse and also do extra things like making handmade gifts for Jagya and baking a cake by just learning its recipe??
While Gauri would get tired after night duties and operations and manage "only a sandwich" for herself and Jagya in Mumbai, Ashima and Sanchi were never seen in vicinity of a kitchen.

Invariably the right choice for an ideal DIL and wife is always a villager girl in BV.

I agree there were examples of flawed village girls like Teepri, Chanda (that was little Anandi's teen friend, no?), Sugna (when she got pregnant with Pratap's child before marriage).

But somehow the flaws and mistakes of village girls were sort of cloaked and blamed on "young age", "naivete", social evils and community's orthodox beliefs.

City girls are always bad or naive and have reasons like pampering and sheltered upbringing for such behaviour or lack of self regulation.

Among boys they balanced it by showing positive city bred guys like Mahi and Shiv, Shyam and Lal Singh who'd been to cities but never got swayed. Jagya is the only village guy who was shown flawed and more so when he was exposed to city life in youth.

But BV CVs have failed to keep a balance among city girls and village girls!

Shivani is an example but she was also an older and more mature woman.

What about girls? Do BV CVs only want to appease village ones? Do they want to imply city girls are mature only when they mature in biological age?

I am afraid they'll maul Ashima's character also in coming days.

Anyway, I wish they had shown love stories as it is instead of always bringing 2 girls and somehow doing a compare and contrast and choose drama!

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SPuja

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Posted: 12 years ago

#16

Originally posted by: aparnauma

I agree and disagree.

Ganga and Sanchi are being compared.Their place of origin is only a minor issue.

They are comparing Ganga's adjusting and giving nature to Sanchi selfish nature.

Ganga's ability to adapt herself to fit into the Singh household Sanchi's fixed opinions about people and life styles and narrow mindedness.

Ganga's abilities and nature developed because of all the hardships she has faced in life and Sanchi's inabilities and closed mindedness comes from sheltered upbringing.

If looked at more objectively even if Ganga has been brought up in a city but was subjected to the same treatment she has been subjected to as a child she still would have ended up as the way she is that is kind loving girl who values people's kindness and make adjustments in order to fit into the lives of Singhs who are villagers.

Even if Sanchi were to be from a village but has been brought up the way she was by her parents she would still find it difficult to adjust in Singh household.

We also have examples of Jagya who has been brought up in village but hated everything and his origins this was way before he went to Mumbai.

There was Shivraj Shekhar who is a city boy but adjusted to the rustic ways of Singhs very easily.

The makers clearly showed the differences in the basic personality and nature of Ganga and Sanchi.

I do not think it is about elevating rustic rural folks and looking down on city folks.

When Shekhars came down to meet Anandi their issues were about her interest in her career not about her abilities to adjust to a city life.Because it was quite evident that Anandi is capable of adjusting to life style different to that of hers if it is necessary.

They are comparing Ganga and Sanchi with regarding to their respective natures.

If Sanchi was shown to be city bred so was Ashima.There is a world of difference between the two and the way they look at the world.

Ashima honestly thinks that she loves Shiv.If Ashima really loved Shiv she would have made adjustments to suit the life in rural India.

So I don't think this comparison is all about looking down on city girls and celebrating village girls at all.

I agree that they are showing differences in basic personality and nature of girls (now Ganga and Sanchi), but it is difficult to say how it was evident (to Shekhars) that Anandi is capable of adjusting to life style different to that of hers. So far Anandi is living in Udaipur just like she was in Jaitsar. At least no visible difference was shown (including any adjustment problems), she wears the same clothes, same cooking, same concerns for Singh family etc. Similarly, Ganga has adjusted in Singh household because basically she has lived her life in similar situation. It is just that she is free from any insult etc. in Singh household. If Ganga was shown to adjusting in any city household and changing herself accordingly, then we could confidently say that Ganga can adjust herself in any circumustances.

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vasiraju

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Posted: 12 years ago

#17

Originally posted by: monamie111
welcome to BV forum 😊 though i don agree fully...i liked ur post..

i think CVs r trying to show difference between two mentalities only!..

currently CVs r comparing saanchi & ganga and yes sometimes i also feel that it is not good...for example, in yesterday's episode...saanchi gave jaggya a red jacket & jaggya didn't like it much...bcoz he doesn't like bright color!...but the gift ganga has given to him is also red colored...but as the gift is given by ganga here, jaggya is happy with that! 😕...to show jaggya's interest in ganga & not in saanchi CVs will show anything now!! 🥱...i don know..but at this point i didn't get CV's logic!!...& i think they r wrong here...

but i don agree with u at the point that CVs have compared Ashima & Anandi as a city gal & village gal...here i agree with Malika...the problem of ashima is not bcoz she is a city gal...it can hapen with any1..also, shiv & anandi still consider her as a good fren & well wisher..& so we viewers!!...and moreover, the same thing has happened with anandi too right?...she loved jaggya..& he cheated her!...i think CVs brought ashima back to show a happy ending of her story...just like anandi...😊

I really Loved the way you wrote the Hypocrisy of Writers here ...its seemed like people who don't follow Anadi guidance in the matter of jagiya they will not approved by jagiya 😆..Tomorrow they will show ganga asking tips to impress jagiya for their first night ..

They showed Ganga making cake and dhokla so jagidish loved it 😳..that means key to the jagiya's heart is anandi ..which i hate even to think why Cv's are so lame in their thinking ..

Jagiya should come out memories of Anandi then only he can lead new life with any other girl ..but here they are showing entirely different 😲...

yes i agree with ashima point that you raised ..but Cv's tried to project that angle through saachi comparing ashima and Anandi ... what i am saying maintain some balance between the character's ..Give some credit to city girls too ..may be their method of approach is different to others but they can also equally be strong and good maintain family relationships ..that simple thing CV's are not given any importance ..

Thank you so much for warm welcome in the Forum 😃

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vasiraju

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Posted: 12 years ago

#18

Originally posted by: SPuja
I agree that they are showing girls living in city as not so good and villaged based girls are good.

Gauri a villager was good in childhood (when she was in village) and became bad when she was living in city. Ganga is so good and Sanchi - perhaps there is no definition how to describe her - bad, shameless, immature, mannerless - perhaps people have not seen a girl who is like her. Minor charecters (like Shivani) living in city were good but we do not know their story, no bad village girl was shown to compare with them ( in direct conflict like Anandi-Gauri and Ganga-Sanchi). So by seeing this serial, it can as well be construed that village based girls are good - adjusting, selfless, loving, caring and what not, while city based girls are selfish, rude, mannerless, scheming/plotting etc.

As regards Ganga baking the cake, I did not watch the episode, but how did she bake the cake? Jaitsar haveli has oven? The recipe perhaps given by Anandi, but can anyone bake the cake for the first time by just listening to recipe over phone and that too for a party? Or the village girls are some super humans? Does not this mean glorifying village girls too much?

Excellent 😃...you understood exactly what i want to project ..they have already made Anandi mahan in so many ways ..and they trying to Ganga in the same manner 😆 😆..

No one is ready to at least give credit saachi what she is trying to do ...may be she is not right in her approach...but that poor girl has the will to express her love to family ...and doing something for jagiya with her little brain ..even Cv's are showing her plan of getting Cake for jagiya is wrong 😆..

the funniest part Anandi never tried to make in the sighs house and made in at in laws house may be they had this conventional oven ..but in jaister ganga made it 😲..with normal microwave Oven 🥱 ..

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aparnauma

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Posted: 12 years ago

#19

Originally posted by: SPuja
I agree that they are showing differences in basic personality and nature of girls (now Ganga and Sanchi), but it is difficult to say how it was evident (to Shekhars) that Anandi is capable of adjusting to life style different to that of hers. So far Anandi is living in Udaipur just like she was in Jaitsar. At least no visible difference was shown (including any adjustment problems), she wears the same clothes, same cooking, same concerns for Singh family etc. Similarly, Ganga has adjusted in Singh household because basically she has lived her life in similar situation. It is just that she is free from any insult etc. in Singh household. If Ganga was shown to adjusting in any city household and changing herself accordingly, then we could confidently say that Ganga can adjust herself in any circumustances.

My only question will Sanchi be able to adjust better if she had been from a family who lives in a village if she had been brought up the way she is?Answer is no.Does she have an adjusting nature?

She would have reacted same way to Anandi even if she had been from city just because she was not her choice but her brother's choice.her character has been well established that she is not the person with whom people can feel comfortable with.

Even if she is married off to some one who is based in city there also she will find problems given her basic nature.

As for Anandi making adjustments to fit into the Shekhar household which is supposed to be modern people were supposed to have broader outlook.But I do not find any differences between Sumi and Ira except that they dressed a little differently from Sumi and Gehna. Other than that there were no differences.For someone whose family is supposed to be progressive the women in Shekhar family do not do much except sit in the hall.They were never shown going out anywhere except if it is for shopping.So what adjustments are we talking about?Actually I find Singhs much better and more forward thinking than the educated Shekhars.

The issue is more about accepting people as they are and trying to get along with them.Ganga and Anandi did not have a pampered existence unlike Jagya and Sanchi hence they find it difficult to adjust or change to suit their lives.

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vasiraju

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Posted: 12 years ago

#20

Originally posted by: aparnauma

@bold I agree they made Ganga into superwoman but I think that has got to with character being one of the leads/parallel leads.😆
Sanchi is being shown that she is not capable of making changes more to do with the need to show her bad as per their story requirements - the negative character.
Her parents did highlight the things that are important to her namely the lifestyle she was used to as only one of the reasons for their opposition to her relationship with Jagya. They could have highlighted lot of other things that made this match nonviable.

@bold True ...their are so many reasons and ways to prove saachi that she is not suitable for jagiya and his family without making her that negative character..

her way thinking ,her goals are entirely different from jagiya thinking and his approach.their is subtle way by which they can focus why Ganga is fit for singhs family not saachi..

it is just like people with different nature will fit for different families and get name fame according to they way approach .for sachi she has to change in inner values and thinking to fit in sighs family..where as Ganga no need to change as she is way accustomed to that family ,where as saachi can excel her views and thoughts the way shekers family bought match for her ..social parties ..geting introduced to new people ..their are so many things a well educated girl can do in high society families.its just that apt place for apt person .

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