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Posted: 12 years ago
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The only person who can bring Sanchi to the ground is J. We can not blame A, because she is still
A new Bahu in thatbhouse andvtrying to get Sanchi to like her. It is tough for her to take drastic action. Sanchi is neither too close nor a stranger to A . One can be tough with total strangers and people
Very close. This relationship with nanand is very delicate and calls for diplomacy.
Ganga is a person in that house with the status of a humble benifitter, so she can not tell of the
Sambhandi ofbthat house. That leaves only J. Who should be brutally frank with Sanchi.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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I am not surprised that Mannu figured Sanchi out. Because even one ofvthe sociopaths said, he
Could fool every one ecept children. They figure the sociopaths out and avoid them.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: SPuja

Anjana, you have posted detailed comparision between J and Sanchi, agree with your analysis. However, I want to add the railway ghotala also in the list. J wilfully wanted to harm Shiv in his professional area, which Sanchi has not done so far.


Thanks for the appreciation. The parallels are Clear. I didn't forget about ghotala...its there as "set up shiv" - pt. 2 (j)😉😆 Unlike da Singhs I don't suffer from Jamnesia😛
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Jan50

The only person who can bring Sanchi to the ground is J. We can not blame A, because she is still

A new Bahu in thatbhouse andvtrying to get Sanchi to like her. It is tough for her to take drastic action. Sanchi is neither too close nor a stranger to A . One can be tough with total strangers and people
Very close. This relationship with nanand is very delicate and calls for diplomacy.
Ganga is a person in that house with the status of a humble benifitter, so she can not tell of the
Sambhandi ofbthat house. That leaves only J. Who should be brutally frank with Sanchi.


Agree with you. Only Jagdeesh can break Sanchi's delusion and set her straight otherwise he will be stuck with her for life.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: AnjanaYYZ


Thanks for the appreciation. The parallels are Clear. I didn't forget about ghotala...its there as "set up shiv" - pt. 2 (j)😉😆 Unlike da Singhs I don't suffer from Jamnesia😛

Good point. People forgot about jagya planning and plotting against shiv in the railway gotala just like saanchi instigating sumitra against Ganga.
Don't know why people feel jagya never plotted against anyone but was always good at heart.🤣
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Posted: 12 years ago
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I do feel that Anandi should have been firm with Sanchi.

But I guess it is not really possible at this stage.She just entered the house and is still trying to get to know them on an individual basis.Trying to make them trust her and trying to learn more about them,

Sanchi is already negatively biased against Anandi and in this scenario if she reprimands for even a right reason it will be taken in a negative sense.So it is better for Anandi to keep quiet and work on earning her trust.Sanchi has to realise that her bhabi does not resent her then only she will take A's reprimands in the right sense.

Fixing that kheer was Anandi's way of telling Sanchi that she is in no way a threat to her or she is not out to harm her.It was kind of a trust building measure.


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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: aparnauma

I do feel that Anandi should have been firm with Sanchi.


But I guess it is not really possible at this stage.She just entered the house and is still trying to get to know them on an individual basis.Trying to make them trust her and trying to learn more about them,

Sanchi is already negatively biased against Anandi and in this scenario if she reprimands for even a right reason it will be taken in a negative sense.So it is better for Anandi to keep quiet and work on earning her trust.Sanchi has to realise that her bhabi does not resent her then only she will take A's reprimands in the right sense.

Fixing that kheer was Anandi's way of telling Sanchi that she is in no way a threat to her or she is not out to harm her.It was kind of a trust building measure.



@Bold - unfortunately Sanchi is too Silly too comprehend that😆
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Don't forget his first reaction when Anandi slapped him due to the property dispute. She said either give the divorce or she would go to court against him for 2nd marriage.

He refused to give her divorce and said something which amounted to 'let her carry this name forever, I am never gonna free her.'

His ego couldn't take it. So he resorted to that.

This is similar to the typical egoistic reactions that Sanchi has whenever something goes against her wishes.

QUOTE=AnjanaYYZ]Sidra -

1. My main post was no way directed at J, but AnSh, Ganga and J. If some J fans opt to say that the thread is for criticizing J then either they (1) are unable to read (2) blind bhakhts of J. IMO.

Coming to your question about the parallel between J and Sa, which issue you raised- Here is my reasoning:

2. One of my favorite subjects in school/university was English. So, when I look at any story I see it from a literary perspective. Who is being etched as Foil, Parallels, Trickster, etc. Here Sanchi and J are being developed along similar lines. If one looks at the show objectively then it is rather apparent that is what the CVs have done:

(a) J is shown to have been spoilt by his family because he was the boy; Sa has been similarly spoilt on the basis she is the "youngest";

(b) J was shown to develop a distaste for village life; Sa had a similar extreme distaste when she arrived;

(c) J insulted and humiliate Anandi, made fun of her clothes and food; Sa has done the exact same;

(d) J altered Anandi's name to Nandini infront of his seheri friends; Anandi considers Anandi's name to be ancient;

(e) J lied about what his parents did and who they were to impress his friends, disrespected his parents' and their choice of wife for him by rejecting his legal relationship with Anandi, illegally married another woman, and tried to blackmail them into giving him his inheritence; Relatively, Sa has just barked at the shekhars, so I would say she is not as bad as J as of now.

(f) J lied and manipulated his family, anandi and his family for three years, so as to continue his relationship with Gauri. I say lie and manipulate because he well knew that if he told his family the truth then they would not let him continue to rormance Gauri. Sa has lied & manipulated family to wear a short dress and ran off to Jaitsar.

(g) The reason J lied about his marital status to Gauri for three years is so she con't to be impressed by him; Sa is likewise pretending to be a better self infront of Dr. Jagdeesh.

(h) Ja in his rages has humiliated not only his "wives" -(I remember all the times he raged at A or G for minor reasons), but perfect strangers - i.e. the sabziwala, the dean of college, and Senior Doctor; Sa similarly mistreats Ganga and Anandi;

(i) Jagya plotted to keep the truth of his rishta with Gauri from his family for three years. Then along with Gauri he plotted to get the singh's property, and lastly he plotted to throw bibhoot on Bhago's ashes. So, like Sa and Payal - he too has plotted and planned.

(j) Jagya plotted to break up AnSh ka rishta. He poisoned Nandu and manipulated DS's mind. He faked amnesia, so he could get close to Anandi in front of Shiv. He tried to suggest to Anandi that the Shekhar's would ill treat her. Lastly, he set up Shiv. NOW HE DID ALL OF THIS AS AN ADULT WITHOUT BAD EVIL GAURI'S INFLUENCE. Sa is trying to poison Sumi's mind against Ganga. But, surely you would agree that Jagya did much much more to Anandii. So, again Sa's wrongs pale when compared to Jagya's misdeeds.

(k) Jagya in several scenes touched Anandi in an inappropriate way and made comments about her body that were meant to show Shiv that he knew A intimately and/or reassert that intimacy btwn himself & Anandi especially when he was faking amnesia. Sa is likewise trying to establish a physical relationship with J.

(l) When he asked Shiv to step back from A then he assumed he was best life partner for A and A would eventually see that. Sa is doing same now - assuming she is better for J and he will eventually realize she is perfect for him.


3. You cannot excuse all misconducts of J as being BV victim and under influence of Gauri. He was legal grown adult with brain of his own and made lots of wrong choices as an adult. Anandi is also victim of BV - she did not romance another guy just because J was absent for 3 years... she surely had the opportunity as well. As for Gauri's influence - She is responsible for her actions. J is responsible for his. If J was mentally challenged and incapable of thinking for himself then I would accept that J had to blindly follow Gauri. But, in the absence of that type of mental incapacity, which was not shown, I am going to treat J like the intelligent adult he is.

Moreover, there are many things he did wrong before Gauri knew about Anandi and after he returned to Jaitsar having left Gauri

Also, if he had been honest at the start of the three year relationship with Gauri then he could have voided the relationship with Anandi before their BV became legal. But, he opted for the DISHONEST PATH.

J is being held to account for his mistakes and Sa is part of that punishment. In the future, Sa will hopefully have to give similar accounting for her misdeeds. Kudos to CVs for meting appropriate punishment.
Edited by Jhanvi86 - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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I agree with the parallels drawn and want to also mention something totally different that I observed.


The Cv's have shown us how 'spoilt' Jagya became in a conservative, orthodox family where decisions were made for him and how he rebelled. AND

They have shown us how 'spoilt' Saanchi is in a liberal, modern family where she can independently make decisions for herself and how she has abused this freedom and autonomy.

I guess what can be derived from bothe these situations with basically the same outcome is that balance in everything is important. A firm, understanding and guiding hand is required in raising a child. Two extremes proved to be counter active.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Jhanvi86

Don't forget his first reaction when Anandi slapped him due to the property dispute. She said either give the divorce or she would go to court against him for 2nd marriage.


He refused to give her divorce and said something which amounted to 'let her carry this name forever, I am never gonna free her.'

His ego couldn't take it. So he resorted to that.

This is similar to the typical egoistic reactions that Sanchi has whenever something goes against her wishes.

Thanks, Jhanvi. Good point. There are many many things Jagya has done that cannot be white washed or excused as he was nadan, drunk , under Gauri's influenc, the writers wronged him. and so on. Per what they have aired. Sanchi's negative actions parallels J, but as of now are less than his.
Edited by AnjanaYYZ - 12 years ago

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