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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: parri814

Hi Annika,


I agree. It's quite a mish mash nowadays. I also crave finalization of the Gauri chapter. It's long overdue. Bringing about closure as a dramatic scene on the eve of Jagya's third wedding would further push Gauri into the villainous role. This would be a wrong move, in my opinion, because right now BV needs to be true to form in the vein of a more realistic conclusion of the Gauri/Jagya relationship. It's not difficult to show the redemption of Gauri. I think it is much needed and it will also show city/educated girls in a better light. This samajic message is also needed for Indian society, seeing the hullabaloo over one romantic scene of a husband and wife who happen to be a sarpanch and collector.

The Cv's really need to focus on two things right now, one being and extremely strong track, revealing that amends can be made (Gauri) and two, showing Anandi's progress within her NEW relationships in a more modern setting. This could also achieve more balance between the city/village cultures/mindsets.



Thanks for the response Pari! I agree with you. I want a sensible handling of the Gauri angle. I don't want it left dangling unresolved, nor do I want BV to make it dramatic and Balaji style cheap masala (Gauri entering with her kid right in middle of Jagya's pheras or post married life!).

Right now, every episode seems "all over the place". It's just not coming together...where the story is going!
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Posted: 12 years ago
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@samvi and suchi

If the show is about balika vadhus and set in village it is fine. But it doesn't mean that city bred girls should be maligned. Ashima was shown as sweet. But they tried to show her naive. Shiv would just laugh at her supposed "antics". I know Shiv choosing Anandi over Ashima was more about love. Still, the CVs subtly did show a city-bred woman as somehow inferior or immature/naive. At times Ashima's behaviour came across as antics.

Shekhars are city people and modern family. Everyone in the family is so well behaved. Shiv and Mahi are fine. Why's their sibling Sanchi shown to be such an insensitive blabbermouth?

Earlier I used to think she was behaving like this because it was an utter shock for her - her dear brother getting married to a village girl, that too a divorced one who'd been a child bride. I thought her insecurities about entry of an unlikely person in the family, possessiveness about her brother and shattering of her dreams (about her brother's marriage and her notion of an ideal bhabhi) were behind her behaviour. Later when she behaved politely with Anandi it seemed she was not that bad after all.

But her rude behaviour at the dinner at Singh haveli and utterly bitchy talk with Ganga at the hospital again showed this girl was just an insensitive brat!

They haven't kept a balance at all. Whole Shekhar family is wise and well behaved except Sanchi - the girl exposed to city and hostel life.

For Ira or CM, rudeness comes in short-lived flashes. For Sanchi, it's shown almost like a part of her innate nature!

Point is about modern, city girls being shown somehow inferior to village girls either in blatant and direct ways or in subtle ways.

Sorry about the mistake regarding Shivani.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Excellent post, TM! I agree with the vast majority of it 👏


For me, BV has been going down a slippery slope in terms of its storylines since AnSh's marriage. I especially want to comment on the whole Jagya redemption thing - for me, without the proper closure of the Gauri chapter, he is still not deserving of forgiveness. Gauri was never a bad person, and despite all that she did that was wrong in her insecurity and psychosis, she did not deserve the unjust treatment that Jagya meted out to her. Both of them were as bad as each other, and he had no right to take any kind of moral high ground when it was HIM who stood outside in the rain and made himself ill to emotionally blackmail him to stay with her. It also annoyed me that it took Ganga reminding Jagya of his responsibilities towards Gauri for him to even remember her existence 🤢 He spent years claiming that she was his true love... how could he just end things with a slap and a letter!? I am unable to get past that, which makes me unable to get on board with the idea that he has been "redeemed", and also unable to get on board with the Singhs' whole, "Oh, Jagya's suffered enough, let's get him remarried and settled again" POV. I feel that Jagya still hasn't learned how to navigate romantic/conjugal relationships in an acceptable manner, so getting him married again at this stage will only result in more broken hearts and issues... and of course AnSh will be the ones everyone turns to for help and solutions, like they don't have their own lives to lead!
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Posted: 12 years ago
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@aparnauma

Thanks for replying to all points (and thanks for the patience to read it! LOL! I'd just typed away in total frustration at the show!).

Shiv's patience is amazing and it's seriously the most perfect, more ideal than the most ideal man imaginable! I love him for it. But I hate what he's being made to go through due to Singhs! I loathe DS' insensitivity and foolishness! 😡

The things which you said "what's new in this?" or "it was always like this" - will they always remain as they are?! As a viewer, I keep hoping they'll correct the BS someday but no! The show which I so respect for its content, is keeping those same old irritating flaws intact. Currently, it has all potential to go some K-serial way (at times it has resembled a K serial only to somehow come back to normal later). It's getting frustrating seeing same old flaws and tendencies in characters - that too who are supposed to be reformed now!

I disagree with you on Gauri's real nature. Gauri at her core is not psychotic or bad. As a kid she was like Anandi only, innocent, caring, sensitive, talented, studious. They both had a heart to heart conversation on how child marriage ruined their lives, after her marriage to Jagya was stopped by Anandi and Singhs. Even at college Gauri was happy go lucky, studious, friendly, teachers' and students' favourite, a person who everyone could lean on for support and a person who stood up for others' rights.

She goes psychotic only in regard to Singhs. Anandi at least got family and social support. Gauri had her parents and Bade papa but she and her family suffered abject poverty, public humiliation and ostracism for years after her marriage to Jagya was declared null and void by Panchayat. It's that trauma which comes to life for her whenever Singhs or J enter her life. Otherwise even with neighbours, patients and colleagues at hospital she was cordial, dutiful and ideal. For her, the Singhs remain her "gunhegars". She's not basically bad. Only DS, her parents and Jagya ruined her life. She had moved on completely when fate made J enter her life again. He kept lying to her all along and by the time she learnt the truth...it was too late for her. She had fallen in love and become emotionally weak...this is why she easily got manipulated by J's lies and all emotional blackmail, suicide drama of Jagya.

Yes later CVs, mauled her character further when she did foolish things due to her mother poisoning her ears. But at heart she alone is not totally bad. The Singhs, Jagya, her own parents never dealt properly with her. They are all equally guilty in ruining her childhood and her psyche.

Other than ones with Singhs, Gauri had been shown to tackle tough situations with tact, equanimity and strength - be it at college, neighbourhood or hospital.

I only want her chapter to be dealt with properly. Either redemption (because she's way less "evil"/"guilty" than DS and Jagya), or death, or proper separation and info about what happened to her child. I probably would have bothered less about Gauri if she weren't shown to be pregnant. I am curious about her and her kid's fate. Also curious about how she reacted to Jagya's visit and letter. Did she even read it?

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