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ButterflyOnRose

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Posted: 12 years ago

#21

Originally posted by: adi2512
@sidra...

I do u/stand...whomever have felt emotional., they did for the right reasons...am' not against it..
I'am just saying my POV here...
So., no hard feelings...😃

and thinking loud...May be some thing is wrong with me...😕😆

arey no dear there is of course no hard feelings 😃i know you have your POV ..i just explained those people's POV who said the scene was emotional i found many views like me .

Thats it ..rest its your POV ..That doesn't mean anything is wrong with you ...we all cannot have same POV'S right 😳..if all world started thinking same then how world will go on 😆

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stuti..

@stuti..

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Posted: 12 years ago

#22

Originally posted by: doyelpakhi

Did Gauri really manipulate him? how and when?

When Gauri asked Jagya to claim his property she was also asking him to seek forgiveness from the Principle. Jagya listened to her in first case but not in the second case.

He went to Jetsar to see badimasi and he could have come after spending few days ...specially when Gauri told him that his seniors are unhappy with him for the leave. Why didn't Jagya come then? If he would have come, there would have been no Tamasha and everyone would have been happy.And when he got punishment in hospital he blamed Gauri for everything!

Not only that, in most cases, Jagya did what he wanted and what he believed to be right. It was Singh family who cut all ties with Jagya and they did not accept him and overlooked his gestures (like when he saved Anandi or when he put a stake to his career for badimasi) as he was with Gauri.

How can Gauri break his ties with the family when his family itself doesnot want any relation with him?

The only thing that Gauri did was lying about the Bhairon episode. Definitely she was wrong. But considering the fact that Jagya lied thousands times and on more serious issues, Gauri's lie could have been forgiven. Jagya should have asked forgiveness from Bhairon on behalf of Gauri instead of dumping her... What does Jagya think? That he can lie, cheat, can do whatever he wants and everyone will forgive him. But when it comes to accepting others' mistakes or forgiving he wont do ???huh???!

I really hope that CVs dont show any Gaga union - at least Gauri should not try to come back to his life - even not for the sake of the child. It will be unethical for Jagya to be with Gauri if he loves Anandi and their union will be always full of tension. A troublesome marriage cannot be ideal situation for the upbringing of a child.

There are several, if you are really ready to see them. Not counting the petty ones like 'sasuma torture techniques' a few of serious nature- 1) Immediately after sham marriage, she bundled him tight- overriding all the protests- and stormed on to his unsuspecting family, hapless legal wife. Result, in short term, a serious illness to his old granny. Over a longer term, eventual elimination of Anandi's mother. 2.) The property 'blackmail'; by all counts, this was primarily a dazzling example of her manipulative skill. There were two goals, secure an unearned fortune, as well, a permanent breach with nettlesome in laws. Result, though 'sadly' failed in securing booty as bluff was called by a 'ganwar, unpadh' rival, she still managed to secure the breach- bitter and stinging. 3.) Even in time of a personal tragedy- loss of a child- she had a mean presence of mind to twist true events, malign the victim and manipulating his grief towards an unjust anger…in fact, lies over Bhairav's role, Badi Masi fall, rackless bad mouthing in front of dean, Bhabhut manipulation etc. are half wit attempts in comparison. But she did manage to contribute in wracking his ,career, relations, or peace, side aside an abundant self help at such sure shot self destruction.

But what is this 'forgiveness from principle'? Seriously, I didn't get it,...anyways,this is a digression from the discussion at hand-

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ananhita

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Posted: 12 years ago

#23

Originally posted by: stuti..

Anahita, bag to differ on G. Far too easily she had manipulated him or his relations to claim some answers now from him.
More in the evening...

Gauri may have manipulated Jagya, but Jagya is no child himself, he turned his back on Anandi as he found her uneducated and Gavaar compared to Gauri, after having known and been with Anandi for so long, he was taken in by Gauris modernity (which is why Saachi may be such a good fit for jagya). Gauri, cannot be solely held responsible for Anandi's plight, it takes two to tango, Jagya is equally responsible for deserting Anandi and causing her so much grief. Jagya has been portrayed as a rash and impulsive child who always acts first, and then repents, 'Ladesar' has really taken his title a bit too seriously, be it his treatment towards Anandi and Gauri or the railway ghotala, somewhere down the line, Dsa and Singhs are also to be blamed for Jagya's behavior, hoping that the makers would show some maturity in Jagya's character from now on or we are going to see Jagya's bouts of immaturity rear its ugly head in Ansh's happily married life!!

Having said that, I would like to reiterate that I loved your summarization of the last epi, you weave a very interesting web of words, Jagya looked and portrayed his part very well, it was indeed a touching performance, that of a boy who has lost his last candy...if he truly realizes that at times the joy is not in always eating the candy but sharing it with others, he would have truly redeemed himself' I hope this last dialogue with Anandi would have brought some closure to Anandi's dilemma as far as Jagya is concerned.

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Mehek25

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Posted: 12 years ago

#24

@stuti..

U have summarised the episode succinctly and beautifully...Very well written...Loved every word u have written...

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stuti..

@stuti..

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Posted: 12 years ago

#25

Originally posted by: ananhita

Gauri may have manipulated Jagya, but Jagya is no child himself, he turned his back on Anandi as he found her uneducated and Gavaar compared to Gauri, after having known and been with Anandi for so long, he was taken in by Gauris modernity (which is why Saachi may be such a good fit for jagya). Gauri, cannot be solely held responsible for Anandi's plight, it takes two to tango, Jagya is equally responsible for deserting Anandi and causing her so much grief. Jagya has been portrayed as a rash and impulsive child who always acts first, and then repents, 'Ladesar' has really taken his title a bit too seriously, be it his treatment towards Anandi and Gauri or the railway ghotala, somewhere down the line, Dsa and Singhs are also to be blamed for Jagya's behavior, hoping that the makers would show some maturity in Jagya's character from now on or we are going to see Jagya's bouts of immaturity rear its ugly head in Ansh's happily married life!!

Having said that, I would like to reiterate that I loved your summarization of the last epi, you weave a very interesting web of words, Jagya looked and portrayed his part very well, it was indeed a touching performance, that of a boy who has lost his last candy...if he truly realizes that at times the joy is not in always eating the candy but sharing it with others, he would have truly redeemed himself' I hope this last dialogue with Anandi would have brought some closure to Anandi's dilemma as far as Jagya is concerned.

Anahita,

As you have read, I amply emphasise Jagya's culpability on what he himself reaped. Actions are his own and so are 'rewards'. No way, nowhere I am proposing Gauri as 'sole' perpetrator of Anandi's plight. But then, no one can overlook Gauri's abundant contribution herself, just in a zeal to condone a girl against a big, brat, bad boy. Which is what is happening many a times here despite the denials.

But more than their joint ventures against Anandi, were they rational to each other, is the question we are debating here in our digression. As frequently cited, Jagat was original liar etc. Then first confessing and admitting his lies vis. a vis. her, after marriage, did he continue to be lying or cheating on her? But as often omitted, it was Gauri, who started lying, evading, misleading post marriage. Malice, ire and destructions were on his family not hers. The loss of their child was a ruin solely on her hand- her SOLE culpability. which is why some of us are feeling she may not claim some answers from him now.

I fully agree on your second para. Somewhere else, many a times, had mentioned this only. His redemption is part of a necessary closure for Anandi's progress too, from a story point of view. Though I am still apprehensive over its finality!😆

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mahi12

@mahi12

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Posted: 12 years ago

#26

@stuti...must say brillaint summarization of last episode , Jagaya's character and also about Gauri too much similar views like mine ..loved reading all your replies here ...can say i completely agree with you

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stuti..

@stuti..

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Posted: 12 years ago

#27

@ Sidra, a pleasant summation there...agreeing to your reflections- a good screenplay carried by wonderful acts.

@ mahi, remember your update thread last Wednesday? We had discussed metaphoric significance of 'Shiv- Parvati' gift. Especially name. I'd asked you, whether this was a freshly shot FB. Must be a fresh shooting only. For in an original FB, gift would have been 'Radha-Krishna'- Anandi being Kanha bhakta. Besides, Cvs elaborated names today. Never knew Anandi was other name of Parvati, though Jagdish a name of krishna was obvious. A fine wit there on corrected alignment.

So now from tomm onward Shadi episodes...

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mahi12

@mahi12

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Posted: 12 years ago

#28

@stuti ...even i think it was freshly shot FB ..many things indicated its a new one .first your explaination .absolutely right .and its also a fact creatives themselves said they have changed the original story and introduced a new man Shiv for Anandi where the actor initially said his role was suppose to be a comeo only 😆 and cvs clearly wanted JaAn reunion at first so many direct hints so Shiv was no where before in either way 😆..second ..Shashank and Prats looks ..they both have grown up in this serial when Jagaya use to mistreat Anandi initially they both looked a lot young than now and here i don't see any difference in their looks as it is 😆third and most important a blooper Jagaya wasn't wearing his locket in that FB while he always use to wear it at that time at least when he was in Jaitser so that was missing cvs forgot 😆

neverthless like you said they tried their best and it matched the situation and story too so it was a very good attempt from them ..