Was Collectorsaab correct to throw the 1st punch?

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Luvchoc

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Posted: 13 years ago

#21

arrrey yaar...he is not on punching spree. It was Jogia who always fights, shouts and lands into soup. In both the situations Shiv's actions were justified. He was never out of his mind. He did what was necessary being a law enforcer and a good-hearted, responsible citizen. He did not break law instead punished them who did. So pleezzzee yaar, stop finding faults in his character. He is clean, total hero types. :)

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leo4ever

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Posted: 13 years ago

#22

Originally posted by: AnjanaYYZ
Shivraj Shekar is a man of principles... he even parks the jeep to take calls. He carries his resignation letter in his pocket, so nobody can improperly pressurize him. He is not only principled, he strong and intelligent. He saw through Heth Singh's ploys on his own and was smart enough to call the police before going to stop Jyoti's bal vivah.

1. But, was it correct for him to throw those extra punches in the name of Anandi's family honor and the kids to the grooms dad?

2. And was it proper for him to throw the first punch at Jug's taunts?

Yes there mitigating facts in both circumstances. The groom's father tried to blow out Anandi's brains, had his men beat Shiv, and was clearly engaged in illegal conduct. But, prior to the slaps - Shiv clearly had things under control and police were on route. As for the brawl with Jug - J was clearly going to hit the sabziwala, he taunted Shiv, was holding his collar, and outright drunk.

And yet both these incidents trouble me because Shiv represents the law, but he himself is not above the law! That's the job of the police (to arrest) and courts (to determine guilt and punish wrongdoer). Drama and viewer satisfaction in seeing him defend Anandi and Jug's beating aside...did the Creatives diminish Shiv's character through these acts?

my observations:

heth singh was lsapped coz he was dong a worng act ,he wa doing a crime!! he held the person at gun point tried shooting a girl - sarpanch of the village!! at that moment ik slap tou banta hi tha to show to all that even their leader is not safe from punishment if he odes worng!! sometimes rules are follwed by instillnig respect fear of law and sihv did just that!!

second he wasnt the colector who hit, him, jaggu grabbed the collar and egged him on, he punched him due to that fact, i really dnt feel it is so wrong an act!!

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leo4ever

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Posted: 13 years ago

#23

i am sorry i take back my words

i felt jagya ( as much as i hate it ) was bechara more of il luck then wrong!! the bicycle man could have moved out and chalo forget it, but when shiv gave him the first punch jagu ddnt do much the attempt to throw stone was clearly a sign of a weak man scrambling ot defend self / show his anger but h shouldnt have given those continous punches and then he said on duty officer pe haath uthnae ki saza, liken complain tou aam sehrri ki kiye? y? plus he has no uniform nothing how does jaggu knw he is collector? plus ik sharabi ku easily control karsakta tha instead of givnig blows after blow on him

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preity_d

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Posted: 13 years ago

#24

I was surfing news channel someday... I heard that According to law A District Collector has the right to punish people,if they are wrong...
And as per Shiv's character's concern Shiv is a guy who knows what is he doing.. Self respect is big thing for him. tat's why he always keep a resignation letter with hom. He can leave the job but can't leave his self ,respect his principle.
here in the episode Shiv is behaving like a gentle man, he asked him "Aap". But Jagya called him "tu"...And Jagya is the person who starts bitting him. So it is natural Shiv must bit him against.
If he wouldn't bit him, I am like...😲.whom am I liking..
My hero should be like Shiv,who can fight when it is nessesity...

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leo4ever

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Posted: 13 years ago

#25

Originally posted by: preity_d
I was surfing news channel someday... I heard that A District Collector has the law to punish people,if they are wrong...
And as per Shiv's character's concern Shiv is a guy who knows what is he doing.. Self respect is big thing for him. tat's why he always keep a resignation letter with hom. He can leave the job but can't leave his self ,respect his principle.
here in the episode Shiv is behaving like a gentle man, he asked him "Aap". But Jagya called him "tu"...And Jagya is the person who starts bitting him. So it is natural Shiv must bit him against.
If he wouldn't bit him, I am like...😲.whom am I liking..
My hero should be like Shiv,who can fight when it is nessesity...

jagya grabbed the collar yes that was wrong and shiv boxed him ,once ok yaha tak it is ok, but to knw he is drunk not in the sneses and when he was attempting feebly to throw stones he coul have held his hand from back or slap but to repeateldy give blows after blows was too much atleast!! and then he said in crowd it is for dongi on govet ooffical but how is anyone to knw he is a govt offical??if j was in his senses i cld understand the repeated blows but ot hit a drunk man thasts is a lil toomuch

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Suchi-

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Posted: 13 years ago

#26

My answer to this!

HEC YAAA

He needs to do more than just smack that loser

I am glad he punched that SUCKER!

anddd also that groom's father

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AnjanaYYZ

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Posted: 13 years ago

#27

Suchi - 🤣🤣 I ❤️ your passion and on a purely emotional level I am for Shiv beating both, but on an intellectual and rational level totally not:

1. He had the situation well under control with the groom's dad. The sidekicks heard the siren and immediately let daadisa go. The two thappars were corrective punishment beyond the scope of his position as Collector. It also bothers me that he never introduced himself to the goons in the first place... even hardened criminals hesitate to beat up or take on sarkari officers.

3. With Jogia - he deserves a worse thrashing for all his misdeeds even jail term for bigamy, but bottomline is that Shiv should not have thrown the first punch. Then to continue beating on the drunk duffer was inappropriate. He also failed to identify himself as a sarkari officer yet initially suggested that Jug be charged with assaulting a sarkari officer. That is a serious charge when all he was in this particular instance was drunk disorderly and rude.

Edited by AnjanaYYZ - 13 years ago

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prassy.kavi

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Posted: 13 years ago

#28

i think who ever you are u deserve respect from others. it doesnt matter that you are a vegetable seller or a collector. but jagya dont know how to respect others. thats why i think he needed tight slap and collector saab given that needed thing to him.

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Smriti

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Posted: 13 years ago

#29

Originally posted by: leo4ever
i am sorry i take back my words

i felt jagya ( as much as i hate it ) was bechara more of il luck then wrong!! the bicycle man could have moved out and chalo forget it, but when shiv gave him the first punch jagu ddnt do much the attempt to throw stone was clearly a sign of a weak man scrambling ot defend self / show his anger but h shouldnt have given those continous punches and then he said on duty officer pe haath uthnae ki saza, liken complain tou aam sehrri ki kiye? y? plus he has no uniform nothing how does jaggu knw he is collector? plus ik sharabi ku easily control karsakta tha instead of givnig blows after blow on him

Agree with you here. 😕This was clearly a lapse on part of the CVs...how can he ask them to arrest J for attacking an officer of the law (not in uniform) & then make a complaint as an ordinary citizen. That bothered me more than the extra punches. And the first punch was ok cause J held his collar & like someone mentioned here, any self respecting man wud react like that. But the subsequent multiple punches could have been avoided. J's attempts at attacking Shiv were so pathetic & miserable that Shiv simply needed to overpower the drunk on the street & hand him over to the police. It's almost like the CVs could not resist some herogiri from our collector Sahab in his first meeting with the rival with the background scre et al. And yet, once in the police station Shiv was the perfect, sensible character we have come to know & love so much. He was controlled, calm & mature in handling Jagiya's jeers & provocative screaming & even very understanding...that the behaviour was a result of his drunken state. His advice to J also came across as very honest & sincere. Liked the way he conducted himself vis-a-vis the loser in the jail.

This being a TV show some inconsistencies are bound to be there to please the masses. But having said that, since they are constantly showing a contrast b/w Jagiya's character & Shiv's character, these inconsistencies irk sometimes. As for the punches to the groom's father that was clearly to show his anger at his dear Anandi being subjected to so much torture!😃

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desi5555

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Posted: 13 years ago

#30

Originally posted by: AnjanaYYZ
Shivraj Shekar is a man of principles... he even parks the jeep to take calls. He carries his resignation letter in his pocket, so nobody can improperly pressurize him. He is not only principled, he strong and intelligent. He saw through Heth Singh's ploys on his own and was smart enough to call the police before going to stop Jyoti's bal vivah.

1. But, was it correct for him to throw those extra punches in the name of Anandi's family honor and the kids to the grooms dad?

2. And was it proper for him to throw the first punch at Jug's taunts?

Yes there mitigating facts in both circumstances. The groom's father tried to blow out Anandi's brains, had his men beat Shiv, and was clearly engaged in illegal conduct. But, prior to the slaps - Shiv clearly had things under control and police were on route. As for the brawl with Jug - J was clearly going to hit the sabziwala, he taunted Shiv, was holding his collar, and outright drunk.

And yet both these incidents trouble me because Shiv represents the law, but he himself is not above the law! That's the job of the police (to arrest) and courts (to determine guilt and punish wrongdoer). Drama and viewer satisfaction in seeing him defend Anandi and Jug's beating aside...did the Creatives diminish Shiv's character through these acts?

Are you trying to say if either the grooms father OR Jagiya pointed a weapon at Shiv and/or anyone else around Shiv, he should wait until the police comes...and until than pray that the person does not trigger the gun or put a knife through him or anyone else around him??? Shiv did what he though was right at that moment... all he wanted to was protect everyone around him..

SHIV has never mis-used his powers.. so no i do not think that Shiv believes he is above the law...

Edited by desi5555 - 13 years ago