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Posted: 13 years ago
What I really believe is that this is a place to discuss BV. If gauri is shown a doctors it not fault of ours She could have been shown another profession as well, Still her evils are the same..
We must adhere to the discussion on BV. We should not stretch this discussion what we think how doctors are being treated. There are other forums for have such kind of discussions.
We should understand Gauri does not represent the doctor segment. She is just shown one another doctor. and hence comments on her actions SHOULD NOT BE pulled over at the entire segment of doctors.
And we must not forget that we discuss BV here, not our personnel life. or personnel view points over industries in India.
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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: akvats01

What I really believe is that this is a place to discuss BV. If gauri is shown a doctors it not fault of ours She could have been shown another profession as well, Still her evils are the same..

We must adhere to the discussion on BV. We should not stretch this discussion what we think how doctors are being treated. There are other forums for have such kind of discussions.
We should understand Gauri does not represent the doctor segment. She is just shown one another doctor. and hence comments on her actions SHOULD NOT BE pulled over at the entire segment of doctors.
And we must not forget that we discuss BV here, not our personnel life. or personnel view points over industries in India.

sweet heart ... did u read my emssage which was in response to urs?
please do.
as for the rest ... u canot deny what i have written is reality , i think people need to treat doctors as human beings nto gods. i dont want extra respect for them just human treatment.
yes agreed it is place for BV but some litte knowledge wont hurt i guess. but still i will take good care next time. out of respect for people sensibilties i will edit my post but i will nto remove that link. i think ti is important to know how media can manipuklate situations and distort public opinions.
Edited by earth1978 - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: akvats01

@ earth,

I am really feeling bad that you are bringing out the fact that how much we dont understand that docs have a extra load . No body disagree that docs have extra load, But I disagree to the fact that ONLY docs have extra load..
Every body work extra, Every body have extra load. You know the guys working in rretail stores , return home 12 in night. People working in India - IT spend nights at office during releases. Can you find out what % of globol IT work is being delivered by India? You can also see the BPO sector delivery form india. You canot even imagine which kind of circumstances Farmers work in. and how do they manage. Docs are earning well in India. There are many many people who spend more time at work, yet earn very less, and manage there life at work and at home
Now the second point where some where you have said that : One may sleep at work but a doctor can not sleep at surgury.. When an IT- Professioanl write a security software, to provide security to you across Internet, When a software is written which recognize a terrorist attact at airoplane control system, and provide you saftey when you are in air, When A machine is made for health care and it is ensure that the machine conduct the correct diagnosis, and provide accurate results, on which further treatment will be based, Do you think others can afford to sleep at work.. Or there work is not mission critical.? In a banking BPO, if one find some problem in bank balance, people immediately call to the customer care department, If the executive sleep at duty, or give some wrong info, what will happen .. Suddenly the cases of heartattack will increase.. With all This I dont want to disagree to the fact that Docs are not at the mission critical projects, But I want to say that Every body is at mission critical project and we should not only talk about talk.
Docs are very same professionals, as others. Others job is also same important as a doc.
More over I definetly disagree to the fact that : Gauri's wrong behavior should be understood provided that she is a doc ,and she had a work load. She had Surgury next morning. We have real time stories of docs when docs going through personnel break downs till the extent that some bodies son was dead and a doc has given to life to other's son before the rituals of his own son..
With a real time docs availble like so, I can not understand that she was going through some major stuff. Now We def agree that it was a party called by them, She could have another ways to communcate the same, Why the way she choosed. We dont expect Gauri to be extra ordinary, But what if she get an emergency call from hospital and she had to be there for few hours before surgury, Will she still give a reason that I need to complete my sleep and so I will not attend the emergency..
Or will she say that I have attanded an emergency last night so postpone the surgury, NO right. She would be doing..
Let us dismiss the possibilitie sof an emergency. What if she get unexpected guests at home, who have to stay with them. Now will she refuse to attend on them as she has a surgury tomorrow..
She got a confirmation during Party, She could have called J a side and could have communicated to wind up the party. If J was not listening to her, She could have taken the help of another friend who was not drunk.. like the lady who tried to stop every body to tease them.
Now to the guests, Guests were also doctors. Didnt they had important appointment next morning. Were the guests wella.?
Moreover, I have never seen a doctor full of attitude like Gauri, hiding her wrongs under status of her Doctor, in real time. All the doctors I have met , all my friends are so well versed down to earth, , so soft graceful and intelligent..
I would definetly deny the comment against doctors in India. Every body is facing same circumstances in india and so the doctors. Neither they are bad treated alone, Nor that India is against doctors. India promote doctors, the way India promote other professionals.
India an MBBS have a registration number, which is not with the engineers. Doctors have recognition in eyes of government. Students strikes, student fights etc are in every college not only in medical college. Prefessional strikes are also seen in many sectors and most of the time such strikes are not free of blood. this is definetly wrong but it is not just the case wih doctors. It is also with primary school teachers, students who fight against cast based reservations, on castisism, on and so on an so on..
Now here I want to ask one more question : Which is the country in world , where people does not have such kind of situation. Where peoplke are not carried away and where people maintains 100% peace. There no reason to comment on India for any such cause.

bapr ey yaar ... how many of the students get lathi charge? ds a software professional get beaten up and roughed by public if his software fails?
rather than taking acount of somethign which hppenned ur trying to push it under the carpet.
but it is ok. tell me if ur bro was roughed up if he was a doc ... kya tab bhi tum aisa hi sochati.
i am nto comapring professions , i was onyl talking of my own. u only said people come for healthydiscussions ... i just defeded gauri a little bit on one incident and look how ur not liking it!
DOCTORS HAVE EXTRA LOAD and it is the worst type kunki onemistake and some one can get sicker. i hink tehres a difference due to severity and seriousness of the work becuase it can affect a life. fir hume to public hhodegi nahi naa. while with engineers it dsnt happen that way . their job also can affect lif eu can say , civil engineers who make buildings and bridges ... yes i am aware , my husband is a mechanicla engineer and he has to conform to lot of safety standards. but with doctors if affects a life then and there and they r in direct contact with public ... hence the situation is graver , the consequences of their failures are immediate!
as a soft ware professional too gari wud have her low points.
please do nto argue with me , there is another option availabl eif u dont like my post and that is ignore it.
i am gettingreally tired , it does not mean i have accepted ur POV it just meas i don have the tim n energy to convince u any more.
also hate hate hate gauri. gauri is no angel but too much hate gets detrimental to our own selves. thats my opinion as wud be supported by u . if u can see or not gauri is a good wife to jagiya, she encourages him , puts up with his tauntas and tantrums , panders to his ego, had tried to save him from trouble with his MS. she is nto anandi becuase she has spunk , an dis not docile. she was worng to anandi yes . but in my hate for hwta she did to anandi, i cannot ignore other logical points.
Edited by earth1978 - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
continued ...
if u hate some one u feel the negative energy and if u feel negative energy u attract negative forces to ur life. i am not saying this , it is a well established fact. google out "the secret of happiness " and u will know.
again a oersonal example ... for past few days i was very happy ... we had got a beautiful apartment and had invited foriegners over. i had cooked foriegn dishes and had got heaped wih praise in return.
i was so happy. that i have given a different meaning and direction to my life, so what if i cudnt practise i am a good house wife and a good cook, a good host.
but what happenned when our argument escalated? i lost that happiness. teh negativity of forum attracted negativity in my life. today i was not feeling good about myself i was a few days earlier.
today u drilled into me ur a better woman becuase ur balancing house and work and inalws ... u made me feel my achievements r small. becuase my equations are nto so good with inlaws and becuase of my situation im nto even working, not multitasking.
that is what negativity ds ... negativity attracts negative vibes in our lives. hence the need to let go of hate even to virtual world. the easiest way to let go of negativity is to try n empthise. hence i tried to understand gauri and tried to present a different view. even the worst of us will have some good points and even the best of us will have some bad points.
i dont care if u understand me or not, i most definitely dont want to ruin my hard earned happiness becuase one forum memebr or even few others dsnt have good opinion about me. for me my happiness is precious.
Edited by earth1978 - 13 years ago
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earth 1978 tumhe gauri ke liye bura lag raha hai ki use jaldi sona chahiye doston ko aise mazaak nahi karna chahiye.pehli baat yeh hai mujhe gauri ka is tarah bolna rude laga ki bus phone attend kiya aur bus phataphut kaha ki guys party wind up karni hai .she could have tell them after some time and in another different way .but she behave as an uncivilized person .aksar aisa hota hai ki hum bahar nikal hi rahe to hain tabhi humse koi milne aa jaata hai to kya hum use ghar pe nahi baitha te kya hum use main gate se rafaa dafaa kar dete hain kyonki hume kahin bahar jaana hai .ofcourse hum aisa nahi karte hum unhe bhi attend karte hain aur phir baad mein apni baat ko keh sakte hain ki hume emergency hain isliye hume kahin jaana hai with polite manner . jub gauri ke ghar mein dost aaye to maine naa to gauri koyeh kehte hue suna ki baitho tum log kya loge aap sub kaise hain yahaan tuk woh unke beechh mein bhi nahi baithi bus door khadi rahi .yeh to sarasar mere liye mahabattimiji hui aur is battimiji se unke doston ko bura lag saktaa tha but they did not feel bad they r taking it lightly or may be i say they did not even notice it .even when she said party wind up karni padegi ek dum se to bhi uske doston ne buraa nahi maana nahi to woh bhi bura maan sakte the ki hume ek dum se jaane ko keh diya aur kul ke gauri ke behaviour se aisa lag raha tha ki jagat ke dost bina khaaye piye bhi chale jaate to bhi gauri ko bura nahi lagtaa .kul ki gauri ke behaviour se aisa lag raha tha ki woh nahi chahti thi ki jagat ke dost ek second bhi ghar mein baithen.aur waise bhi woh sub bhi doctor hi hain aakhir woh bhi to samajh rahe honge ki gauri ko subah jaana hai
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Posted: 13 years ago
Turning away guests that one has oneself invited is terrible!! Unless there was some very negative emergency... like gauri learning her parents are in an accident and she and jagat have to leave immediately or something like that ... obviously jagat will feel disrespected if his wife makes his guests feel unwelcome and asks them to leave. What i dont understand is when the food was on the table... could they not have eaten first ... and she could have told them when she was handing out dessert that she doesnt want them to stay around late?
Here if someone talked to me about leaving before I even ate, out of self-respect, i would just get up and leave... its not like I need their food to have dinner and that i came to sit at their dining table like a beggar, I too can go to a hotel and eat. The way she was talking would make me feel as if I was a burden on them.
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Posted: 13 years ago
Well I am sligthly surprised!! Do many of you think Gauri's request to wind up the party to be wrong? 😲 I didn't find it offending, because it was important. She even said Sorry. Moreover they are friends (ahem) and also doctors, they wouldn't understand it! She was planning to serve dinner early, not let them go like this.
Sometimes its very important to do this. Why we have to misconstrue it as an insult? I wouldn't be offended by my friend if she makes this kind of request.
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Posted: 13 years ago
@avantika -- if I had been invited somewhere, and the host had not made it clear to me earlier that it was to be an early event ... and instead clamped down on it later ... then yes, it would bother me.
The key is "INVITED"... I would question why they couldnt have had the party on a more relaxed day when both had the next day off..
It would not bother me if I had just gone to their home uninvited, and they asked me to clear out. That is perfectly reasonable.
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Posted: 13 years ago
That's what amazes me about Gauri. Some defenders say she lacks people/social skills, but the interesting part is she is a crafty manipulator and liar. Her handling of Jaagaaat for Sumi's challenge is nothing less than Matahari playing out her assignment🤣 Yet when it comes to doing simple, sensible things for maintaining the peace of the household she takes the unwise stance. How difficult is it not to overdo her bossiness?

1. She leaves no chance to reiterate over and over again that she is the breadwinner.

2. Her ultra-professional attitude towards Jagat at the hospital was uncalled for

3. Her discussions with Jagat regarding finances is pathetic. Discussing financial matters with the spouse is one thing. And instructing the spouse not to make any payments without her consent, or denying money to the spouse by reminding him he is jobless and is not entitled to spend on the things that only she can spend on is another thing.

4. Her objection to the party seemed too contrived. First she said he should have waited till he got his salary. Then she changed her reasoning that she has to get up early. Such directionless objection, that too from the spouse who herself threw a huge party without even including Jagat, is a perfect ingredient for domestic discord.

5. The party fiasco could have been handled with much better finesse. Asking your spouse's guests to leave in the middle of their meal and then instructing the spouse to go to bed is an extreme form of paternalism😆

6. The Bade papa truth, Sumi challenge and SNG truth are just time bombs waiting to explode. How difficult is it to defuse them by saying -------Bade Papa disowned her for marrying Jagat( without revealing Bhairon's funding), Sumi had said that Jagat will leave her and she does not want to lose him (a hug and sob would have worked in her favor), and the SNG people had asked for her recommendation (without revealing that she proposed the job in the first place).



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Posted: 13 years ago
also, i feel the timing of the request makes a big difference.
why not say it after dinner (if you want them to have dinner and leave after that is?)
... because at that time, people are just lounging around and faffing anyway.
but before dinner is 🤢
and in this case, dinner had already been served.
Its not like there was a 2 hour wait before dinner, and she wanted to expedite that and serve dinner immediately to cut back on time...

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