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mahi12

@mahi12

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Posted: 13 years ago

#11

Originally posted by: Flyzip

yes you are right... jagya has been a victem of child marriage and him choosing another mate is also understandeble.
But what he did wrong was the way he went about it. continually showing anandi. AND his entire family wrong.

right..for that he getting punished ..the present losing him every where restlesess and mess in his life is result of his wrong doings but what if he will realise his mistakes ..then ?😆see victims are both of child marriage ...

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Ami

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Posted: 13 years ago

#12

jagiya is morally not a string person !! he is weak and can never support a stronger wife than him !! he ia jealous of everyone who ever goes higher than him in life. On the another hand is anadi is succesful it is because she has always been a strong person inside which jagiya ia not. This is a mismatch anyway. jagiya cant get whatever he ask for !! he cant be forgiven -- common this man has no brain whatso ever !!

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mahi12

@mahi12

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Posted: 13 years ago

#13

Originally posted by: amisamrat
jagiya is morally not a string person !! he is weak and can never support a stronger wife than him !! he ia jealous of everyone who ever goes higher than him in life. On the another hand is anadi is succesful it is because she has always been a strong person inside which jagiya ia not. This is a mismatch anyway. jagiya cant get whatever he ask for !! he cant be forgiven -- common this man has no brain whatso ever !!

well if he realises his mistakes and is sorry for them from his heart then i don't see one reason of not forgiving him...its not like he murdered anyone ...moreover i am not saying reunite him with Anandi...but if he changes and says sorry for his previous actions then why punish him of not forgiving him ever ..it means when you do wrong get punish when you come on right path still get punished ...that doesn't make sense ..secondly i don't see him devil from day one..the day he grew up he was quite sensible at one point ...it was later the air of city life touched him when he was mocked and bullied ..in order to avoid being degraded and mocked he started lying hiding his true identity even name later all the Gauri fiasco...but if he changes and becomes a sweet Jagaya like in his intial days of grown up then whats wrong in forgiving him 😕

Edited by mahi12 - 13 years ago

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Nach_Baliye

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Posted: 13 years ago

#14

Originally posted by: mahi12
@Nach -baliye no one is comparing pain of Anandi and Jagaya ...no one is saying that J and A suffered equally but don't you think it was wrong for J's side too if he was married to Anandi at a very young age when he like Anandi he didn't even know the true meaning of the relation they were binding into.

I was actually referring to my own post that I do not want to compare Anandi's pain with Jagya's, since to each individual his/her pain is always more than the other person's. So while I didn't want to compare, I ended up comparing in my post because from a "quantity" perspective Anandi's sacrifice was bigger - leaving her parents, adjusting to life in a new household, experiencing Dadisa's injustice, learning to behave like a wife rather than a child.

Yes Jagya also went through this and deserves forgiveness. However, he lied and mistreated Anandi for 5 years, re-married while married to Anandi, thrusted Gauri on Anandi and his family without any sensitivity for them, and then demanded property. Had he spoken to Anandi and his family in a mature manner, been sensitive to Anandi's hurt feelings, and not kept her in the dark for 5 years, he would have had more empathy. I do understand that family pressures can prevent a person from being honest, but he was serious about Gauri so he should have come clean. His falling in love with Gauri was not bad, his cheating on Anandi and lying to both women was bad. I don't think his family would have been understanding due to "reputation", but he went about it the wrong way as well. And Gauri did nothing but verbally abuse Anandi, thrust herself on the family and demanded to be considered a DIL without giving them time to digest the changes, and even challenged Sumitra.

Jagya should have been clear with Anandi and the family, stepped away and given them time to accept his marriage with Gauri.

Edited by Nach_Baliye - 13 years ago

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tweetie19

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Posted: 13 years ago

#15

Agreed that even Jagya was a victim of child marriage...he too has a right to choose his life partner...but the way he went about it by insulting and ill-treating anandi was wrong...
Till now i dont see any kind of remorse or regret from his side...if in case he truely regrets, he deserves to be forgiven...But Anandi should never accept him back...it was his decision to marry Gauri and he should stick to it now...

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tinoo

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Posted: 13 years ago

#16

Originally posted by: mahi12
[ ]well if he realises his mistakes and is sorry for them from his heart then i don't see one reason of not forgiving him...its not like he murdered anyone ...moreover i am not saying reunite him with Anandi...but if he changes and says sorry for his previous actions then why punish him of not forgiving him ever ..it means when you do wrong get punish when you come on right path still get punished ...that doesn't make sense ..secondly i don't see him devil from day one..the day he grew up he was quite sensible at one point ...it was later the air of city life touched him when he was mocked and bullied ..in order to avoid being degraded and mocked he started lying hiding his true identity even name later all the Gauri fiasco...but if he changes and becomes a sweet Jagaya like in his intial days of grown up then whats wrong in forgiving him 😕

Mahi12 -- I have a different view on this

1. Jagya decided to change his name to jagat even before he went to medical college. There was a scene where the ladies were applying mehendi to anandi, and then he started calling her to him, so she went to him, and he had written "Jagat" on his hand and he showed it to her saying that he would change his name to Jagat when he went to the city because it was more modern than Jagadish. She was really puzzled and repeated it loud and he hushed her.

Anyway, the name Jagat was not changed because of the ragging/bullying. I think he had already carved out an alter-ego for himself subconsciously.

2. Now agreed that during the bullying he lied about his identity. For me, that part is okay. After all if he is ragged, and the raggers are not his friends he need not reveal anything about himself to them. Ragging will last one or two weeks and then these people will disappear ... so if he felt like lying about it well and good... that part I have no issue with during the ragging period.

3. However, after he lied about it, he should have taken anandi into confidence (that is if he intended to be her husband) and told her that here people think he has no wife...and he should also have explained why he needed to lie about her.

I was enrolled in a graduate program and had to take a leave of absence due to some unfortunate personal circumstances. This delayed my graduation by two years. During this time, friends and family asked my brother about my progress ... and he didnt want to open up the story to people who really had no business knowing about anything ... so he lied and said i had completed it. That was the end of that... but he told me that he had said this to family members because he wanted to avoid all sorts of questions... particularly when they did not know. But I knew about what he has said to them.

4. If he really loved anandi, I think the ragging was just two weeks, and even if he lied about his status initially he could later have faked being just married to her at the age of 20 or something, saying that he was marrying his village sweetheart now. The people who ragged him would nowhere be around, and nobody would look into his story to see if anandi was his child bride or his immediate bride. Lalsingh knew, but he wasnt a blabber mouth.

5. Finally, even if he lied about his marital status at the ragging incident, he could have opened up to gauri only (in private) when it came to such a critical point in their relationship where she wanted an answer from him as to whether he was interested or not.

My view is that neither child marriage nor the ragging and city life are jagat's issue. And he is a victim of neither.

his real issue is that he has no value system and he has no integrity. he also has no empathy and no conscience.

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shalluuu

@shalluuu

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Posted: 13 years ago

#17

yes i am agree with you...when i watched the arguments of anandi with that reporter...anandi was again and again saying" bachio ko yeh sehna padhta hai,bachio ko vo sehna padhta h"kya mard kuch nahi sehta...

why only indian women are to b shown suffering...kya man ki koi suffering nhi hoti...we are four daughters of our father and i know how much my father struggled for us...

yes the pain of jagya is also present there...gauri wanted to have love of singh family but she was not accepted,,,

main character who is positive( female) ki creatives itni suffering dikhate h jaise sara dukh usey hi h...

what about man...they don"t sufer

love your post...it has really some sense that make me to comment

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