Should Shiv have slapped the guy ? - Page 2

Originally posted by: AnjanaYYZ

I have no issue with Shiv defending himself, stopping the marriage, or protecting the girl, Anandi, etc. I am with him. But, is it appropriate for a Public Official to slap as insult/punishment? Shiv already had the gun. The police were on route. What lesson was he trying to teach with the slap? Was that lesson really taught with the use of force? Shiv is District Collector not Judge, so does he have legal/moral authority to punish? I take issue with his exceeding his power or misusing his power... it looks great and heroic, but appropriate?

Originally posted by: tinoo

Great question!!

If shiv had independently walked in and just started slapping the guy's dad while anandi was trying to reason with him... then yes, it would be wrong... but here, they were on the verge of murdering anandi and perhaps him too.

So, in the overall framework, yes, shiv had the gun, and yes, the police sirens were in the background ... however, the pressure of that moment might cause the guy's dad to issue some instructions to shoot someone or something as a last ditch effort to protect his ego. When Shiv took him down, the others could see that their boss/leader has fallen... so nobody would dare to do anything or use another gun even in those split seconds before the police arrived.

Given the situation, I would take it as an extension of self-defense...not a misuse of his power.

(BTW, the one thing that was wrong is that nobody gave an introduction as to who he was ... nobody said he is the district collector... it looked like he was anandi's lover who had come there in that capacity 😆😆😆😆😆 not in his official capacity). If they had known his position, they may have done something differently. maybe. maybe not. but nobody knew who he was.

Originally posted by: tinoo

LOL

No one at that place tried to find out who Shiv was? Shiv was shown silent at first until the Groom's uncle started irritating him . Later the situation turned in such a way that Shiv's identity was not required anymore😆😆

Originally posted by: AnjanaYYZ

@Tinoo - great observation about Shivraj being Nayaadhikari, but even Judge should not be slapping as punishment. A judge has greatest responsibility to uphold the law. He MUST HEAR ALL SIDES, then MAKE JUDGMENT. In term of Punishment, his job ends at pronouncement of punishment. Judges don't slap gundaas personally.

The boundary of self defense ends when there is no longer a need for it. The two slaps were extrajudicial punishment...I am one of those who objects even to police brutalization. Its norm in India but, I reside in a country where evidence obtained from police abuse/mitha etc would have evidence thrown.

Originally posted by: AnjanaYYZ

That's the thing - I can't forget that he's a gov't official. Being a gov't official is not a 9 to 5 job. Its a 24/7 job. Its something ingrained or should be ingrained into the public service.

Even as a normal human being, he should have waited for the police, who were on route. The situation was under control at that point. When the police arrived, explained the situation, and requested the police to arrest the perpetrators.

Did the heating/beating teach a lesson? I suspect jail time might have a greater impact. Also, who is Shiv to teach lessons through violence?