who is right gehna basant or that villager couple

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Posted: 13 years ago
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😍it is really confusing who went wrong why it happened/this fight was not expected frm a person like gehna keep basant aside but that lady pushed nandu down so she was wrong than who is right who is wrong i m confused my little mind can't catch the point and if tis problem goes to panchayat what mess will bring for anandi and singh family what will happen 😍

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Posted: 13 years ago
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yes this story became so complex..what a mess!..😕 i think all of them were wrong!!..but I support what Anandi and Bhairon said..suddenly Basant became so furious!..😕..all these drama r happening just bcoz gahena is leaving this show?😕 when dadisa will come and save us from watching this???😭😭
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Posted: 13 years ago
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I think that villager couple was through and through wrong in everything.
1. First, I dont see the need to get involved in children's disputes. Children will automatically have some kind of regrouping mechanism where if they dont like Nandu, they will stop interacting with him and leave him out of it. All the kids were anyway in favour of the other child. So, the mother needing to get involved in it was kind of against my parenting strategy. I dont intrude into my children's relationships -- I think they need to learn to deal with others independently as part of their personality development and develop their own strategies and my interference like a knight in shining armour kind of stunts their social development.
2. Second, if at all as the villager mother I felt the need to get involved, I would stick to telling my child to not interacting with Nandu anymore if it was avoidable and if it was a one time thing. I dont encourage my kids to go and duke it out with another 8 year old. I also think about whether future interactions with this child are absolutely necessary. There are several different individuals in the world -- we dont need to be friends with everyone.
And if at all I felt the need to get involved, I would most certainly not assault another person's kid. It is not my role to discipline -- and if something untoward happens (just like it did with nandu fracturing his arm) - then it would bring a huge problem on my head. I would just have gone and told Nandu's parents what the issue was and let them deal with their child the way they saw fit.
3. There is another dynamic she needed to be careful about -- that Nandu is certainly the son of her husband's boss -- whether she likes it or not. In the middle of all this -- she should have stuck to the issue of her son being kicked etc. ... but instead she started insulting the badi haveli etc. and this was wrong. It is wrong to show contempt of your boss.
4. When Basant came to their home, Rameshwar and wife should have acknowledged that it was done in a hot-tempered fit and just apologized and said "we apologize for this"... but instead they started talking about the badi haveli and insulted Basant and that too in front of other villagers. Obviously Basant is the maalik, and he doesnt want to be insulted in front of his other staff members who also work for him. It is very natural. And they started attacking Basant saying "you badi haveli people..." which means that there is a separation between them and the owner and they have no sense of basic loyalty to him. Why should any owner tolerate it? If you think I am such a bad person, then there is no need to work for me also.
I mean lets say Mukesh ambani were in a similar situation and an employee of his said "you arrogant bas***d...you think just because you are a billionaire...blah blah"... who would tolerate it, right or wrong?
Here I dont see the villager couple's behaviour as "wrong" necessary ... but it was lacking discernment and prudence. The issue is was their rightness a trade-off for their happiness.
Basically they needed to know that if they spoke like this the end result would definitely be losing their jobs -- so it was a trade-off for them -- was their self-respect invested in defending the mother's pushing ...or was it invested in remaining employed.
This is an unfortunate fact of life -- you cant speak ill of your boss in any condition and still expect to remain in your position because of a sense of "fairness" or through a court ordered/panchayat ordered reinstatement ... because ultimately the relationship is anyway gone...and why would he
I mean if I spoke to my boss, and he fired me, even if I get a court ordered forcible reinstatement in the company it wont be the same as if I worked there throughout with no unemployment.
The villager couple are guilty of the sin of not knowing how to talk to people in authority. It has nothing to do with "fair" and "unfair" -- it is just prudence and discernment.
So in sum, whatever Nandu's faults -- the villager lady had no business physically assaulting him. I think basant and gehna would have easily overlooked it as a "bachon ka jhagda" if the boy himself had pushed Nandu. But the mother pushing him (given her physical size and authority) was wrong.
Finally, I think Basant's mistake was that as an employer he should have maintained his dignity... and instead of going to the villager's home -- he should have called the villager to the badi haveli and fired him there instead. A large part of this issue escalated because basant was insulted in front of several people and neighbours. He should just have handled it through his representative ... and sent someone to summoned the villager to his home.
Was losing the job "unfair"... yes but... I wonder how many of us would be retained in our jobs after pushing the boss's son in a playground, leaving him alone after he was injured (not even taking him to the hospital) and then screaming at the boss in an insulting tone. The boss would never want someone who had a grudge for him or spoke contemptuously of "badi haveli waale" to work for him.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Tinoo..i agree with you that we can't speak wrong for our boss!!..

in real life i knew one gal personally she was 4-5 yrs senior than me..she was talking ill for her manager at the canteen to some frens..unfortunately someone close to her manager was present there and that person heard that conversation..and when she returned from her lunch break..HR person called her and told her to give resignation!!..

and rameswar did it to the face of his boss!..so that was his fault!..but i can't support Basant too..bcoz he took the decision in anger..🤔 and everyone did all these drama in front of Nandu..

they all fought like immature kids only!..


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Posted: 13 years ago
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monamie -- if the boy had pushed nandu -- i dont think basant or gehna would have been angry.
two immature children and this happens when kids are playing.
but the boy's MOTHER pushed nandu and said stuff to him in front of ALL THE KIDS. Therefore, Basant went and retelliated in front of all the kids and their parents.
Today if he allows one parent to push nandu and he does nothing, tomorrow all parents will start beating him up. He had to ensure consequences to make sure nothing happened to nandu in the future.
But let us be clear -- he didnt fire the villager out of anger for hurting nandu -- he fired the villager because he saw the contempt of the villager and his wife for badi haveli folk. As an employer, I would disaggregate the two issues -- i would not want anyone who has a grudge against me or speaks ill of me to continue to work for me.
After all the villager said, did he really expect that Basant would retain him?
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Posted: 13 years ago
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The word does not work on concepts of "fair" and "unfair". It operates on the basis of human relationships.
The man may completely be in the right against his boss. But despite his rightness, even if he is 100% right , ...the moment he insults his boss, then it takes on a whole new dynamic -- and the relationship is finished. Nobody will want an employee who insults them.
You stay in employment because of your relationship with your boss.
So everyone (including the villager) has a choice -- do you choose your self-respect or your job?
Its a choice each individual makes -- I dont blame the villager if he made a decision based on his self respect -- but then it was an either/or trade-off. Did he and the wife really think they could speak to Gehna and Basant that way and still retain their job just because they were "right"?
So if he spoke to Basant to preserve his self-respect, then he should have been prepared to lose his job.
If he want to keep his job - he had to compromise on his self respect - particularly until he had another job in hand atleast.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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I agree that Nandu was naughty before, after other boy's parents came into the picture when these kids were fighting, she should have stopped both of them and asked to be good and don't fight(Issue would have ended there itself), Instead of doing that she pushed Nandu which is bad and that too very hard.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Children are innocent.. A song for them..
(performing Ranbeer Kapoor's Mom Nitu Singh) ..

[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3JtTCA4DqU[/YOUTUBE]
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Gehna's exit is generating some sore points- unnecessarily so...she could have been suspended with some simple ploy, God knows, why they have to dramatize everything.@ Tinoo, u r bang on Rameshwar couple's misbehaviour- rt.from the word go. Rameshwar wife's rudeness to complaining Gehna or her husband's rough defiance to his employer were sheer insolence. Vasant would quickly get riled on by such public insult to himself and his wife.

But what annoy more are not so subtle shifts in two of generally well defined characters- Gehna and Bhairav. If Gehna is inconsistent in her newly found acrimony to whatever Anandi says, Bhairav is annoyingly indulgent or indifferent to a subordinate's crude insults to his elder brother. His ready disapproval of Vasant's reaction is unwarranted and ill-timed-both. Then Anandi's ready jump into a lecture mode, anytime, anywhere is deserving some wake-up calls- irrespective of whether Nandu or his 'parenting' were right or wrong. Wonder, how Bhairav's or A would have harangued if Dadisa were standing over an injured Nandu...all in a child's play!?

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Posted: 13 years ago
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Kids know how to deal with this best. They'd have not chosen Nandu to be in their teams a couple of times and Nandu wud have got the message clearly just FINE !!

But there r bullies and there r bullies...even though Nandu is being brash and thinks no one can touch him coz his mom/dad will save him n his bhabhisa is the sarpanch - that is a but natural phase in his life ! He's a kid - and he an get over confident - his friends wud hv deflated his ego soon enuf.

But a parent cannnot tolerate another adult hurting their kid - and that is what Rameshwar's wife did to Nandu. UNACCEPTABLE !! Kids can hit each other - and they can be dealt with but adults shud only have rights on disciplining their own !

Even when my kid got badly hurt by a much older kid and that bully was lying to my face when other kids spoke against him - even then, one has to retrain one's self to having a talk with that brat's mom. She too - sided with her kid - so I told my son - no more playing with that kid in future, and if u do play and get hurt - then don't complain to me.
A bully will repeat his misbehavior and what happened - he abused others too- n now no kid wants to play with him. Coz he hits out and his mom turns a blind ear to all complaints. Now infact - that kid tries hard to convince the other kids that he promises he won't hit- please can he join in too 😉

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