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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: tanvismile

,here i was just saying that bhairon dint want to tell g s family then there was no need to bade papa ,becoz y they have to hear all that ,y r they looked upon as esan faramosh ,its like they gave so much and wat ull did.if he wanted to keep it secret then tell bade papa .

Tanvi,
thats a great question. I agree with you to a certain extent, that if Bhairon really did not want bade papa to know -- then he could have given bade papa a heads up two months ago and said -- look, this is the last of my funding. Bade papa could have told gauri -- I can only fund you for two months more. Then, when gauri ran out of cash, she would not have asked and neither would bade papa have had to tell her the reason for stoppage of funds. So yes, bhairon could have easily remained an anonymous donor in this scenario if he so chose. His sudden stoppage of funds and revelation to bade papa indicates that he wanted gauri to find out that he was her sponsor.
But I think the above argument then pre-supposes that Bhairon had just some sort of clinical arrangement with bade papa where he would deposit money into his account, and in turn, bade papa would clinically deposit into gauri's account.
Knowing both Bhairon and bade papa -- this does not seem very plausible to me. I am sure that Bhairon had an emotional investment in Gauri as did Bade papa. They both wanted to see Gauri do well in life. And I am sure that this arrangement of money which has been going on for more than 12 years was also filled with progress reports about gauri and her well-being. It wasnt just a clinical financial arrangement devoid of any emotion or contact with other parties. And I am sure that 'progress reports' were not just limited to her report cards and her test scores -- but her overall well-being -- there are so many facets to personality development and growth.
As time passed, as with all cases, people drift apart and the progress reports may have become far and few between, and with the fact that she was now in a medical college and doing well etc. -- Bhairon and Bade papa both became relaxed that Gauri was on the right path in life -- and the progress reports may have been lax and more relaxed and more intervals passing duly. Then, it may have just become a routine procedure of monthly fund transfer not because Bhairon didnt care any more, but he had peace of mind that Gauri was indeed progressing in life as he had intended to do.
Then Gauri married J -- and so when bade papa called bhairon in the conversation we saw, I dont think that Bhairon is obligated just to talk clinically about financial arrangements and clinically talk just about money to bade papa. He has full rights to discuss other aspects of Gauri's life too-- since both bade papa and bhairon entered into this arrangement with a mutual goal -- the goal was not to educate gauri -- the goal was to improve her life -- and the education was means to that end.
And Bhairon wanted to let bade papa know that paradoxically, while gauri was indeed educated as per the plan, the goal they had entered into this arrangement with had failed totally and completely. Her education had not led her to make sane judgment calls or display a sense of morals.
I think bade papa deserved to know this. Dont you? After all, he was not just the conduit or the middle man for the money. He also has a substantial contribution in gauri's education -- he said so in the scene when he broke ties with her -- he used to sit with her until late night to help her study and to encourage her. He has seen her as a daughter and even with Bhairon's funding, gauri might still not have been able to leverage opportunities unless she had bade papa's support.
So, I think bhairon is fully justified in discussing the J-G marriage with bade papa -- because he never had a narrow clinical arrangement with bade papa just to keep shoving money into gauri's bank account -- there was a holistic broader perspective with which he and bade papa had entered into this arrangement. So he needed to let bade papa know that the battle was won, but the war was lost. Her education was not just a narrow box. They were both interested in her overall development as an individual.
Now what bade papa chose to do with the information is not Bhairon's lookout.
But we all have value systems, and sometimes individuals' value systems dont mesh. So bade papa decided that his and gauri's values were not in alignment. Then relationships break. Its not about moral judgements that are universal, but what is acceptable to each individual and what is not.
It could have been that Bhairon would have told bade papa this -- and bade papa could have been like shivani was initially -- oh it doesnt matter, legal doesnt matter, jagat is with you, etc. etc. and still kept the relationship with gauri and her family if those were his values.
But he has different values so he broke the relationship with gauri and her family.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: tanvismile

i m not suporting any character becoz ,one character they make extraordinary good while extraoridinary bad ,there is no reality ,they r purely fictional and unrelatable neither this show is fighting against any social cause then why should i trouble myself for any character ,this site is like my addiction so i come to visit ,thats it ,here i was just saying that bhairon dint want to tell g s family then there was no need to bade papa ,becoz y they have to hear all that ,y r they looked upon as esan faramosh ,its like they gave so much and wat ull did.if he wanted to keep it secret then tell bade papa .


Bhairav didn't ask Bade papa to go tell the truth! Now if BP decided to go tell what's Bhairav's fault???!!! And really you mean two people can't discuss things just because G wont have her pocket money??? She has her parents, her illegal husband and her internship to take care of her life. And when she cares about none when she discusses, blames, interferes, takes decisions then why should others do so??? Sab acche rules kya dusro ke liye hai bane hai...and none for Madam G? 😉
Edited by KyunkiImafan - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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The title of this thread is 'why should g think good of singhs!"
Personally, I think that it is irrelevant whether she thinks good of them or not.
What is really bothersome is the fact that she keeps going to the haveli uninvited. If she doesnt think good of them, then she can sit in Mumbai not thinking good of them. Why come to Jayetsar to demonstrate that she doesnt think good of them.
Really, i think the singhs are too kind.
In their place, by now, knowing her tendencies to keep barging in, i would have put up an iron gate around the haveli, got two bulldogs, put up a 'no trespassing' sign and got a restraining order on gauri entering the haveli... and had her arrested the moment she entered the haveli by calling the police station.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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As per the script, Bhairav has not stopped money in jiffy- just to teach her a lesson. It was done as per the completion of his vowed mission- after the post graduation. In his conversation with BP, Bhairav first showed his surprise at BP's ignorance on G's relative position vis a vis Singhs (astonished that BP had called on him about her at all). Then after stating the facts he clearly mentions, he could have stopped funding long before, if he wanted a lesson. That was not his aim, he didn't want to break his promise and he continued till her education is over. Now she is capable of taking care of herself and hence he is concluding his involvement. Nowhere did he ask BP to convey any of this to G, in fact he continues to believe that their tacit understanding on silence is on.

Now whether BP should have spoken all these to Gauri- especially after keeping them unaware all along (obviously in a spirit of kindness)- has another dimension to it. He would have kept mum, but for that 'deceptive concealment by G. On Bhairav's intimation, BP feels drafted into a thankless betrayal to the benefactor (amazingly, recipients themselves had less qualms than facilitator!) His dialogue- ' he can not face up to Bhairav'- gives away a heaviness on his conscience...The gravity of Gauri's concealment- which was a mere bypass to a non-family member up till now (even then hurtful)- comes acutely hurting. Had G told him Jagat's real identity, none other than her child groom, then he would at least had a chance to absolve himself clear off the Gauri's affairs, starting from the fateful second marriage- if she would not heed to his timely revelation about her benefactor (which he would certainly do). And hence his complaints to G –on her convenient 'half information'.

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Posted: 13 years ago
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Your reasons to prove gauri most innocent person r not making any sense. But its good for every1 if she stop thinking. Specially for anandi and jagya. Either she think about how to create fight with husband or mukhota of anandi. BTW who is asking G to think good of Singhs. Better not to think anything and let them live with peace of mind.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Why does she need to think of singhs at all??
Why does she keep barging in their house and shout like kaamwali bais?
Why is she obsessed with Anandi?
She got Jagya na so stay happy with him...sometimes I feel she is more intrested in Anandi than Jagya...She spends more time thinking of her rather than Jagya😛
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: niharika_n

Why does she need to think of singhs at all??

Why does she keep barging in their house and shout like kaamwali bais?
Why is she obsessed with Anandi?
She got Jagya na so stay happy with him...sometimes I feel she is more intrested in Anandi than Jagya...She spends more time thinking of her rather than Jagya😛


Niharika...this is exactly what I wrote some time back. Esa lagta hai G J ke nahi A ke pyaar mei hai...din raat sirf usi ka naam leke jeeti hai 😆
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Posted: 13 years ago
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@tanvi -- two points
First, even if Bhairon told bade papa with the express intention that it should reach gauri and her parents that he is the funder -- what is wrong with it?
I mean Gauri for the last year or so ever since the wedding has been coming in and taunting anandi about her lack of education, and trying to assert her superiority over anandi with her "doctor status". It is one thing if she tried to get the singh's acceptance and just left it at that. It is one thing if she had issues with anandi and limited herself to those issues (why is she funding jagat etc.) ... but she comes to the haveli on some pretext or other and then proceeds to just insult anandi left, right and center by calling her names, trying to show that she is superior.
It would not be out of place if bapusa did indeed reveal that he is the funder -- just to clip gauri's wings and her 'ghamandi' behaviour about her doctor identity -- to make her realize that she and anandi are cut off the same cloth -- and that the only difference is that one had bhairon's financial support and the other did not (because of dadisa's views about beendhni's education).
If Gauri had limited herself to dealing with the singhs and just left anandi alone -- then it would be a different issue -- but given her clear vendetta towards anandi, I dont think there is anything wrong in conveying directly or indirectly that he is the funder. It is just tit for tat, depending on her conduct.
Second, Bhairon and bade papa had an open-ended arrangement that gauri could study as much as she wanted and that Bhairon would fund it -- regardless of whatever course she wanted to study and however far she wanted to study.
Now, Bhairon may not be inclined to keep that agreement any further. So, after M.S., if gauri decides not to work as a doctor and instead decides that she wants to pursue a super-specialization course of study for three more years -- then Bhairon may not want to fund her for three more years. She wanted money for attending a medical conference as part of her education -- Bhairon may not want to fund those medical conferences.
In ordinary circumstances, he might have done so. However, now he may not want to do so, because of the turn of events.
So, at this point it is imperative that he tell bade papa the real reason why he is not inclined to continue her super specialization education funding or her conferences etc.
He doesnt want bade papa to come to him again and again with requests from gauri.
After all, bhairon entered into this agreement with a certain goal in mind -- the goal was not to educate gauri so that she could be an educated companion for his son -- the goal was to educate gauri so that she moved on with her life.
Since the other part of the agreement has not been kept -- he may not see the reason to keep his unlimited funding promise.
She has finished her M.S. -- now let her earn her own money and fund any future education she has in mind.
He wanted to make it clear to bade papa that bade papa should not have any more expectations from bhairon about finances for gauri... and he wanted to make the reason really clear too.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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I think the real question Tanvi is not why Bhairon told bade papa about gauri's marriage and did not just confine himself to saying that M.S. is over and so funds have stopped.
The real question is why did Bade papa confront gauri about it? He too could have just gone to gauri and told her that M.S. is over, so funds are stopped (pretending that he is the one stopping the money... ) He had no reason to even bring up her marriage with jagat or what was hidden from him. He had no reason to bring in Bhairon singh and the money
Why did he break the secret that he has hidden from gauri for such a long time?
He was not obligated to tell gauri this in any way. why did bade papa do it.
That is the real question. We should not be raising fingers at bhairon for telling bade papa about the J-G wedding.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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@ intruderfast

Gauri crossed the line UNFORTUNATELY ...

As soon as she agreed to marry an already married person (who bluffed for 5 years) then & there itself she crossed the line unfortunately ...

As soon as she realized that her marriage has no legal validity,.. instead of coming out of a meaningless relationship, she continued crossing another life line unfortunately ...

Even though she learnt her relationship was not acceptable by her in-laws & society apart from the Law,she opted for pregnancy there by crossed the third life line unfortunately ...

Yes...Gauri crossed the line UNFORTUNATELY ...
Because it is her innate,immature nature... NOT a habit by mistake.

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