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Posted: 14 years ago
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Jagat is WRONG for LYING and CHEATING.

G is WRONG for being ACCEPTING A LIAR AND A CHEATER. For every loser Jagat on the market, there is a WOMAN that ENABLES him and CONDONES his cheating in the pure name of love, soul-mates, chemistry all code words for SELFISH in the above context!

And these women deserve their harsh judgment b/c if women gave each other an ounce of consideration.

A did the best she could do considering her plight. Hats off to her, for winning the hearts of the even the hardest member of the family; What some people think of wasted time, while I agree, it is not so easy to rebel in joint family and sure her father-in-law would have probably rebelled against his own mom but all of that would have come at a great cost and regret. It always does.

A didn't want to bear the burden of breaking her father-in-law's allegiance to his mom to get ahead. What a huge burden that because of you, a son and a mother will no longer speak or break-up. She was raised to think about right and wrong. And she rather suffer wrong on herself than be right and have others suffer on her behalf.

If she had a means (like parents who could support her education or independence, I would blame her for not taking advantage of the resources). She did the best she could do in her context.

And now look, she has built so much good faith, good will that EVEN now if she studies and works hard she can make up that time and with the full support and love of her family.

Don't mistake all that crying for being weak, it takes a lot of strength and confidence to deal with what she did ---modern women come in all packages, living with a guy and giving bhashans don't make you modern.

It's about doing the right thing even when its the hardest thing to do.
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Posted: 14 years ago
#22

Originally posted by: hima_123



yes, her heart broke...but I don't feel very sympathetic towards emotionally shattered people in real life also, no matter whatever is the cause...I see emotional loss as no loss...
...and thts the reason I dont feel too much sympathy for her ...




I know you mentioned that you don't want to argue with people who disagree with your post, nor do I want to drag u into a debate, but I was just wondering about your statement I have quoted above. That's one of the most unusual statements I have ever heard and would really want to know more about your thoughts or reasoning for this, but yes, if only you don't have a problem in elaborating on the reasoning behind this...

It's just my curiosity to know what makes someone think like this, I am not questioning your judgment, nor am I challenging your beliefs. Hope you won't take offense for this post
😛. I am really careful about responding to posts on opposite views nowadays, since I never know when I might get an unnecessarily rude response, so if you don't want to discuss, that's fine too 😛.
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Posted: 14 years ago
#23
As per my opinion

Jagya : An ultimate loser 🤓 and a person who deserves no one. Who is disrespectful and unworthy of being loved by any one.

Gauri : A fool 😡because she knew that jagya was married still she marry him , so mistake was hers!! now there is no point of being in secured as jagya can never be hers completely

Anandi : A selfless and wise girl who had made her position in J's House and i donot think she should file any case as this is against her nature but she should become Doctor and leave Gauri and Jagya on God's Mercy and let those Bud duas play their role 😊
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: divadesi

Jagat is WRONG for LYING and CHEATING.

G is WRONG for being ACCEPTING A LIAR AND A CHEATER. For every loser Jagat on the market, there is a WOMAN that ENABLES him and CONDONES his cheating in the pure name of love, soul-mates, chemistry all code words for SELFISH in the above context!

And these women deserve their harsh judgment b/c if women gave each other an ounce of consideration.

A did the best she could do considering her plight. Hats off to her, for winning the hearts of the even the hardest member of the family; What some people think of wasted time, while I agree, it is not so easy to rebel in joint family and sure her father-in-law would have probably rebelled against his own mom but all of that would have come at a great cost and regret. It always does.

A didn't want to bear the burden of breaking her father-in-law's allegiance to his mom to get ahead. What a huge burden that because of you, a son and a mother will no longer speak or break-up. She was raised to think about right and wrong. And she rather suffer wrong on herself than be right and have others suffer on her behalf.

If she had a means (like parents who could support her education or independence, I would blame her for not takingadvantageof the resources). She did the best she could do in her context.

And now look, she has built somuch good faith, good will that EVEN now if she studies and works hard she can make upthatwiththe full support and love of her family.

Don't mistake all that crying for being weak,ittakes a lotofstrength and confidence to deal with what she did ---modern women come in allpackages, living with a guy and giving bhashans don't make you modern.

It's about doingthe right thing evenwhen its the hardest thing to do.



Well said! You are right. Gauri is an enabler.
And you described Anandi perfectly.
Couldn't agree with you more.
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Posted: 14 years ago
#25

Originally posted by: hima_123



yes, her heart broke...but I don't feel very sympathetic towards emotionally shattered people in real life also, no matter whatever is the cause...I see emotional loss as no loss...
...and thts the reason I dont feel too much sympathy for her ...




I dont want to offend u so please dont get me wrong u r entitled to ur openion...I have been through a heart break so I know how it feels...If u have never experineced it I pray tht u never go through such pain...u cant imagine how it feels wen ur years of hope and trust is broken in a minute.
So its not exactly no loss...maybe u mean to say tht a person shld be practical enough to avoid too much emotional involvement with someone but then it wont be love.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Man is a social animal and it is possible to keep a society provided there are certain limits and rules applicable to everyone. If no one had to obey any rules and people cud just be with whoever they wanted whenever and wherever they wanted to be - then man wud just be an - - animal I guess..

There have to be some small sacrifices for the greater good. Society gives us a safety net to fall back on in case life brings us unpleasant surprises. Family members do things for each other and work towards the whole lot being happy - not just one or two. Scoiety is just an extension of the family.

But when one person decides that irrespective of yesterday - this is what I want today and I am going to get it - there will be repercussions...
The result will be - if Jagya can't be bothered to care about the family reputation or the combined happiness of the family - the family has no obligation to help him or support him in his times of need or to care about him when he is unhappy - TIT FOR TAT...
Jagya has displayed that he has no moral compass. He is absolutely not capable of any feelings of gratitude or remorse or shame or wrong doing. All he cares about is his current wants and needs...

Gauri seemed to display a moral compass in theory but completely lacks the self control to follow it when it matters. In that respect, she too is very like Jagya - a total go-getter - MY want, MY need, MY wish.

Anandi has a very well defined moral compass and is almost idealistic in doing the right thing for the greater good of the family. But she is guilty of being too self-sacrificing !! She is willing to understand others even when others absolutely refuse to understand or care for her feelings...and their-in lies the problem...

We have 2 extremes of the spectrum here - two very selfish people and one very selfless person.

To some extent all 3 are wrong - but to those who say - life is to be happy and go grab happiness with both hands - I'd say - Sure ! - just don't make someone else unhappy in the process. That's where JG break the rules.
Anandi hid the fact that J has been pulling away steadily from her as a husband in the past 5 years and she never saw it fit to give this matter any importance or bring about discussion with the family - the same family she is willing to lay down her life for. !!..She is guilty of having let things come to the breaking point and BREAK and she never did anything to prevent it. She is a good bahu but failed as a wife. She cud have single handedly prevented this mess if she had but spoken up sooner...I hold her equally guilty...in the breakup of her marriage - atleast she has the family to support her.
Edited by hooked - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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hima i actually get ur point , why dont u feel 4 anandi , u know i believe she has lost jagya but has gained so much , and she has a bright future so my sympathy reduces😆😆

@niharika sorry to hear abt ur heartbreak but we ssail in the same boat😆
and u know its easy to live if we dont get emotionally attached ,so even if someone goes from ur life its easy to ,move on,
i have learned this lesson from my past heartbreak , now i hardly mix with anyone and even if i do u can say i always maintain a platonic relationship🤣😆
actually its been close to 2yrs now and i hardly look at girls these days , (but i check my fav actress and watch their hot shot videos to assure myself that i am normal😛🤣)
emotional attachement can be really hazardous😆, isiliye i think of me , myself, most of the time now, doosron ke baare mein sochonge toh baad mein khud kii band baj jaayegi😆
i know ppl will say we shouldnt be selfish but in todays world if u want to be happy u have to be selfish otherwise suffer😆

😆
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: intruderfast

emotional attachement can be really hazardous😆, isiliye i think of me , myself, most of the time now, doosron ke baare mein sochonge toh baad mein khud kii band baj jaayegi😆
i know ppl will say we shouldnt be selfish but in todays world if u want to be happy u have to be selfish otherwise suffer😆

Dear Anmol,
Am glad I have not faced the pain you have, but I do have a close friend who seems to invite disaster in every relationship she has been in(she continues to do so irrespective). And I have the unenviable job of hearing her out and counseling her and providing support everytime Madam is teary and wants a shoulder. Mostly I try to be as supportive and cheerful as can be but sometimes it becomes a drag. And those times I do think - why can she not learn from her mistakes - why can't she hold herself back a little - why must she jump into the deep end everytime - am not interested in being her lifeguard for LIFE !!

So YES - I agree with you - selfishness in itself is not a vice - it can be a lifebelt sometimes and everyone shud be a little bit selfish towards one's own interests. Self preservation is MOST important, and if the other person is being too greedy - its best to be selfish first than to repent later.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: hooked

Dear Anmol,
Am glad I have not faced the pain you have, but I do have a close friend who seems to invite disaster in every relationship she has been in(she continues to do so irrespective). And I have the unenviable job of hearing her out and counseling her and providing support everytime Madam is teary and wants a shoulder. Mostly I try to be as supportive and cheerful as can be but sometimes it becomes a drag. And those times I do think - why can she not learn from her mistakes - why can't she hold herself back a little - why must she jump into the deep end everytime - am not interested in being her lifeguard for LIFE !!

So YES - I agree with you - selfishness in itself is not a vice - it can be a lifebelt sometimes and everyone shud be a little bit selfish towards one's own interests. Self preservation is MOST important, and if the other person is being too greedy - its best to be selfish first than to repent later.


exactly and be non interfering, the more u get involved , the more u think abt that , so u should know where to draw a line,
and one should always have a back up plan of sorts , it helps
even i dont interact with my friends for much my friends complain why cant i talk to them for long time, boss i have to control my life , if i get involved in urs i will lose control over mine's😆
i have seen really practical ppl r more happy in their lives ,
i will say choose well, take time and have a good control over ur emotions, u should never expose urself to others so easliy
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: intruderfast

hima i actually get ur point , why dont u feel 4 anandi , u know i believe she has lost jagya but has gained so much , and she has a bright future so my sympathy reduces😆😆

@niharika sorry to hear abt ur heartbreak but we ssail in the same boat😆
and u know its easy to live if we dont get emotionally attached ,so even if someone goes from ur life its easy to ,move on,
i have learned this lesson from my past heartbreak , now i hardly mix with anyone and even if i do u can say i always maintain a platonic relationship🤣😆
actually its been close to 2yrs now and i hardly look at girls these days , (but i check my fav actress and watch their hot shot videos to assure myself that i am normal😛🤣)
emotional attachement can be really hazardous😆, isiliye i think of me , myself, most of the time now, doosron ke baare mein sochonge toh baad mein khud kii band baj jaayegi😆
i know ppl will say we shouldnt be selfish but in todays world if u want to be happy u have to be selfish otherwise suffer😆

😆

ANMOL u don't feel for Anandi becoz she got more after loosing J, thn same sd be applied for G too. She got even more thn A after nullification of her child marriage, in fact it was turning point for her life but she seems traumatized by tht events still very desperate to get tht bal BEENDANI status. But I saw people feeling for her. On contrary Anandi is not seeking sympathy from anyone like G and she will move on for sure. But I cant ignore the pain one can feel after loosing a person who was so dear to u and its take time to recover from tht. If u went thru it thn u sd better understand it. Its otherthing tht its taught u lessons, but it took time na. U didn't hv any commitment but u still felt hurt thn u can imagine for a village girl who lived 16 yrs with a person as wife and socially accepted relationship, how can u expect from her to forget all this on one moment. Do u think its so easy in village society? But still she dosnt show her emotion and controlling herself. Other girl in her position wd hv traumatized .
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