The psychology of gauri's need for acceptance

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Posted: 14 years ago
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I have been reading the forum for several months. This is my first post.

Several people have been commenting on Gauri's obsessive need for acceptance by the family.
It is quite simple -- in trauma patients (she suffered trauma in her young age), there is a need to heal the pain. In that effort they try to "fix" the pain by trying to "fix" the situation. This means that if she is successful in fixing the situation now, then she has fixed the pain of the past and it will heal ... or she can pretend that the rejection as child bride never happened.
In general, in people without a sense of self, (and sense of self has nothing to do with education or family background, it is just an inborn sense of power)... so in people without a sense of self, when they have a trauma like the one gauri has experienced, they feel that the people who rejected them 'took' something from them.
Therefore, logically, within that mental framework, they keep going back to the same person and seeking acceptance ...because the something that they took is something that will be returned.
Since dadisa and family 'took' her sense of self in childhood, she is now coming back to 'take it back' from them through their acceptance.
If Gauri's sense of self in dadisa's and singh family's pocket, then as long as Gauri believes that, she will never be able to find her sense of self with any other family or any other husband.
Think of it - if we know that person X has taken our book ... why on earth would we go and look for the book with person Y? ... we know that Y doesn't have it, but X has it. So we will always go back to x, because they have our book.
The paradigm of Gauri's thinking is faulty, but unless she has counseling and her trauma is dealt with in a healthy psychological/psychiatric self-esteem counseling sessions, and her sense of self is reframed in terms of being a doctor or a qualified professional or a beauty, she will always look for acceptance from the singh family to get her lost sense of self.

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Posted: 14 years ago
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i always knew ther was some problem with G.. bt thn wat transpired with her in childhood I dont know.. how grave the effect was is not known.. Wat role did bade papa play is also not known..
and i skipped the part where she initially rejects and then accepts J.. i dont think she thot much wen she accepted J back..
bt i didnt understand the sense of self.. bt psychology is a pretty complex thing.. and cognitive functions of brain r even more complicated.. 😳
to me she doesnt luk a psychiatric patient .. tho having some psychologic issues.. bt it seems more of a personality issue rather thn being psychologic.. bt i cannot comment as i havent seen her reaction wen her childmarraige issue was brot out in Mumbai..😳
Edited by achiever - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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I think she was ready to move on with this new guy in her life Jagat. But he turned out to be the same Jagya who and whose family rejected her years ago. So she is being made to undergo the trauma again.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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but you know wat she is gonna say next.. tht its "fate"..😆😆😆 tht she came across same person.. and she went along with wat destiny had stored for her... mark my words...😆
all our logical explanation of her illogical behavior r not gonna make any sense thn..😆😆😆
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Posted: 14 years ago
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I may slightly differ to what you have said.

1) In childhood, Gauri was extremely happy that her marriage with Jagya broke and she was excited that she could go back to studies. So what is bothering her now?
2) When she fell in love with Jagat, she was not aware that he is the same guy Jagdish, so assuming that Jagat was not jagya but any other different person then would Gauri not go ahead in her relationship with this new person? Would she then say that, she wants to go back to this Singh Parivaar?
3) Gauri was given all this education so that she can explore the world and move on. Gauri is not like Teepri, who in her obsession to marry Bhairon would even ruin her own family's life? Teepri did that because she was uneducated
So in my opinion, I just feel that Gauri doesn't like failures and that's why she is trying hard to get recognition by Singh parivaar. I don't think its any thing out of love or need of acceptance. Its more about GAuri satisfying her own personal ego.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Excellent post,
However I disagree with you on one thing. The first and foremost symptom of any trauma patient is that she/he desperately tries to avoid the site of trauma----in Gauri's case it is the haveli------as well as re-experiencing the event of trauma again---that is marriage with Jagya. For example, a patient suffering from accident trauma will not want to go back to the site of the accident, a patient of rape trauma will not want to face the rapist, a patient of war PTSD will not want to go back to the battle field once again.

If Gauri were indeed a patient under the trance of trauma then she would have avoided any confrontation with the family, leave alone pursuing them even after so much insult. No doubt Gauri's present state is contributed by her childhood experience, but she seems to me more of someone with psychiatric obsession.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: Missesha

I may slightly differ to what you have said.

1) In childhood, Gauri was extremely happy that her marriage with Jagya broke and she was excited that she could go back to studies. So what is bothering her now?
2) When she fell in love with Jagat, she was not aware that he is the same guy Jagdish, so assuming that Jagat was not jagya but any other different person then would Gauri not go ahead in her relationship with this new person? Would she then say that, she wants to go back to this Singh Parivaar?
3) Gauri was given all this education so that she can explore the world and move on. Gauri is not like Teepri, who in her obsession to marry Bhairon would even ruin her own family's life? Teepri did that because she was uneducated
So in my opinion, I just feel that Gauri doesn't like failures and that's why she is trying hard to get recognition by Singh parivaar. I don't think its any thing out of love or need of acceptance. Its more about GAuri satisfying her own personal ego.



so agree with you, couldnt have written better👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: achiever

but you know wat she is gonna say next.. tht its "fate"..😆😆😆 tht she came across same person.. and she went along with wat destiny had stored for her... mark my words...😆

all our logical explanation of her illogical behavior r not gonna make any sense thn..😆😆😆

yaa the cvs have also justified this by fate , they r taking us for a ride , but i never thought that chuildhood trauma had so much affect on her, its now only we r seeing the consequences😆🤔 ok if she gets acceptance from the singh family then what , phir sab theek ho jaayega kyaa
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Posted: 14 years ago
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excellent yaar 👏kyaa analysis kiya hain,

now i feel really sorry for her,
but still i think she married jagya cos she loved him a lot, that past surely came in handy but themain reason was j had left a, j got her convinced that he loves her
i am sure she will get over it soon , she is a very good fighter😊
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: tinoo

I have been reading the forum for several months. This is my first post.

Several people have been commenting on Gauri's obsessive need for acceptance by the family.
It is quite simple -- in trauma patients (she suffered trauma in her young age), there is a need to heal the pain. In that effort they try to "fix" the pain by trying to "fix" the situation. This means that if she is successful in fixing the situation now, then she has fixed the pain of the past and it will heal ... or she can pretend that the rejection as child bride never happened.
In general, in people without a sense of self, (and sense of self has nothing to do with education or family background, it is just an inborn sense of power)... so in people without a sense of self, when they have a trauma like the one gauri has experienced, they feel that the people who rejected them 'took' something from them.
Therefore, logically, within that mental framework, they keep going back to the same person and seeking acceptance ...because the something that they took is something that will be returned.
Since dadisa and family 'took' her sense of self in childhood, she is now coming back to 'take it back' from them through their acceptance.
If Gauri's sense of self in dadisa's and singh family's pocket, then as long as Gauri believes that, she will never be able to find her sense of self with any other family or any other husband.
Think of it - if we know that person X has taken our book ... why on earth would we go and look for the book with person Y? ... we know that Y doesn't have it, but X has it. So we will always go back to x, because they have our book.
The paradigm of Gauri's thinking is faulty, but unless she has counseling and her trauma is dealt with in a healthy psychological/psychiatric self-esteem counseling sessions, and her sense of self is reframed in terms of being a doctor or a qualified professional or a beauty, she will always look for acceptance from the singh family to get her lost sense of self.

I dont have too much knowledge in physchaitry, but I think what you says here makes sense to me. She was a small child when all that happened and it is hard for some kids to get over these things, especially self or family getting rejected. She might have moved on but there is a spot in her mind where it is all intact and raw. The minute the past came in front of her in the form of Jagat all her wounds became fresh and the thirst for acceptance from this family took over her logic, her senses and her whole self. Makes sense to me.
Edited by Rach1 - 14 years ago

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